Hornady Curse and Load issue brings loading to a stop


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Master Blaster
January 11, 2013, 01:20 PM
I went to load some .45 acp in my LNL AP this morning, it had been running pretty well for the last few hundred rounds, all of a sudden I felt the decap pin silde up in its collet. Pulled the case and sure enough it had not decapped the case, the primer is still there. Now this is not one of the common malfunctions I have experienced, over the 8 years I have been loading .45 acp on the LNL. SO I fix the decap pin and rerun the case, it was a winchester not a problematic brand, it decaps fine. Couple more cycles of the handle and the same thing happens, this time its a speer case. Indexing OK? check, center bolt tight?, check. Ah the problem is the primer punch its not allowing the shellplate to index positively as its dragging on the underside of the shell plate. Apparently some powder and grunge had gotten under the seating stem/ primer punch and it was not allowing the spring to retract the punch fully in its housing. That was causing the shell plate to not always index completely, it was off by just a hair. That was enough for the decap pin to not be centered on the primer.

I am posting this as a cautionary tale to help other Lock and Load Owners if they are having a problem with the press running smoothly, check the primer punch, especially if its the large punch as it is stepped and vulnerable to this problem.

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Blue68f100
January 11, 2013, 02:02 PM
That why we keep a can of "Can Air" by our press. To keep the powder free of it. Also if you take a file and round the bottom forward corner of the sleds so a little debree does not stop the sled from going forward. Dillon has the same problem with there setup too.

41 Mag
January 11, 2013, 05:32 PM
Yea, well be going along at a nice clip and forget to shut off that powder measure and dump a load of AA-2, and see it just as you crank the last round into the box. Yep it'll screw up the works as well. Please don't ask me how I know.......

oneounceload
January 11, 2013, 06:43 PM
Sounds more like operator error or allowing gunk to build up

These things DO need a cleaning and lube job now and again

tightgroup tiger
January 11, 2013, 07:30 PM
I have one for you.
I couldn't catch how the tumbling media was getting in front of my primer shuttle and keeping it from coming fulling forward to line up the primer with the primer pocket.

I deprime and clean before running them through the press.

I had put a case feeder on my LNL press about 3 months ago when this started. Even though I shake the heck out of my 9mm cases in a media seperator/tumbler the media was still sticking in the primer pockets, and the case feeder was shaking it loose. It would drop down the drop tube with the cases because the shell plate in the case feeder lays on the bottom of the hopper and this tumbling media ends up on the shell plate and would find it's way to the primer shuttle.

I called Hornady and asked them if it would void the warrenty on the plastic hopper if I drilled a 1/4" or less hole in the low end of the hopper which is also furthest from the press so the shell plate which lays on bottom would push it out the hole instead of carrying it up to the drop tube with a case, the guy from Hornady said he couldn't imagine that drilling a hole in the hopper could void a warrenty but stranger things have happened. He recommended I try something different before I do this, but it was a really good idea and that maybe Hornady should think about doing this.

If it jams me up again, I'll drill the hole reguardless and put a jar under it to see what I catch. I don't think the chances of starting a crack in plastic with a round hole is very good. I'll take my chances.

thump_rrr
January 12, 2013, 05:57 AM
I deprime, and trim .223 cases with a press mounted Dillon RT 1200before wet tumbling so I remove the primer punch before I start.
This keeps the junk out of the punch.

Blue68f100
January 12, 2013, 09:07 AM
I had put a case feeder on my LNL press about 3 months ago when this started. Even though I shake the heck out of my 9mm cases in a media seperator/tumbler the media was still sticking in the primer pockets, and the case feeder was shaking it loose. It would drop down the drop tube with the cases because the shell plate in the case feeder lays on the bottom of the hopper and this tumbling media ends up on the shell plate and would find it's way to the primer shuttle.

I called Hornady and asked them if it would void the warrenty on the plastic hopper if I drilled a 1/4" or less hole in the low end of the hopper which is also furthest from the press so the shell plate which lays on bottom would push it out the hole instead of carrying it up to the drop tube with a case, the guy from Hornady said he couldn't imagine that drilling a hole in the hopper could void a warrenty but stranger things have happened. He recommended I try something different before I do this, but it was a really good idea and that maybe Hornady should think about doing this.

If it jams me up again, I'll drill the hole reguardless and put a jar under it to see what I catch. I don't think the chances of starting a crack in plastic with a round hole is very good. I'll take my chances.

I drilled a hole in mine about 6mo after I got it (4 1/2 yrs ago) and have a little cup setup to catch the corncob media. I use the finer 20/40 and I only end up with a few grans out of 1k round. Where I detect it is in the powder Cop. This is what prompted me to put the drain. I never had a problem with media stuck in the primer pockets.

dickttx
January 12, 2013, 10:42 AM
I have the Lyman tumbler with the slotted lid and a sifter that goes over a 5 gal. bucket. Never could get all the media out, and it ended up all over my bench. Finally bought a Berry media sifter outfit and about a half dozen turns of the handle each way and NO media. One of the best $30 I have spent on reloading gadgets.

tightgroup tiger
January 12, 2013, 05:07 PM
I drilled a hole in mine about 6mo after I got it (4 1/2 yrs ago) and have a little cup setup to catch the corncob media. I use the finer 20/40 and I only end up with a few grans out of 1k round. Where I detect it is in the powder Cop. This is what prompted me to put the drain. I never had a problem with media stuck in the primer pockets.

Good to know, thanks. Will look for 20/40 corncob.

As far as powder goes, we'll always have that issue in certain pistol loads. I use faster burning powder in my 9mm so the case isn't so full and watch my cycle speed. Doesn't throw out any that way from the spring and ball detant engaging.

joed
January 12, 2013, 05:58 PM
The air can is a must. I also take the shell plate off and thouroughly clean underneath every 1000 rounds. And this is from a Dillon owner.

NeuseRvrRat
January 12, 2013, 06:08 PM
<-----another dillon owner who keeps a can of computer duster nearby

i also use a very small paintbrush to brush away bits of debris on the shellplate, primer slide, etc.

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