[jerkface11]

I recently acquired a s&w 1006. Is there anything I need to know about it? Problems, tips, that sort of thing?

[USAF_Vet]

If I'm not mistaken, that's the 10mm offering of the 3rd generation semi automatic pistol.

Sweet gun. I rarely, if ever, hear anything negative about the 2nd and 3rd gen S&W autos.
I'm partial to them myself, and carry a 469.

Most of the bugs were solved in the 2nd gen, and by the 3rd gen they were improving cosmetics and offering different calibers and options.

BA/UU/R. Enjoy that pistol.

[JTQ]

I have the 4506. It is a nice gun, but big.

Get some more magazines. These guns have been out of production for a while, there is no telling when S&W will stop having mags available.

[Devonai]

If you ever have extractor problems, you may need a new extractor spring. Mine was refusing to extract and eject with full power loads. I sent it back to S&W and they installed a new extractor spring at no charge. Free service is about the right price to me.

[saturno_v]

The best and strongest 10mm Auto ever made...one of my favorite pistols in my collection...enough said.....

The Bren Ten may have made the 10mm Auto cartridge popular but the 1006 is the undisputed Queen of the Ten.

[OilyPablo]

I bought one last year. Great gun. The sights are not my favorite, but fine for the era and get the job done.

Just clean it really well. Mine was filthy when I got it - not scratched or worn, just filthy. I tore it down, soaked all the parts. I even cleaned the grips with a stiff brush and Simple Green. Came out looking very sweet.

If you like 10mm and hefty semi-autos you'll love it!

[mmitch]

Tips?

Just one: Refrain from dropping it on your foot!
(ouch, dammittohell)

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww310/satcong_01/m1006_0099_zps751739d3.jpg

Mike

[Elkins45]

Is there anything you need to know? Yes. You need to know that you just bought a fist full of awesomeness! The S&W autos were the best of all the 10mm guns and the 1006 is arguably the best of the Smith autos.

[MachIVshooter]

Is there anything I need to know about it?

Yeah.........Don't let it go! They are highly coveted, and becoming increasingly rare and expensive. I got mine LNIB for $550 in 2004; I haven't seen one in that condition go for less than $800 in quite a while.

[jerkface11]

Mine is in good shape with hogue grips with an extra mag got it for $550.

[Y-T71]

I picked this 1006 up about a year ago for $600.

It's my first 10mm but I don't think its gonna be my last.

I've heard it said before but I'll say it again: this thing IS built like a tank.

I changed the recoil spring to a #22 Wolf and have been having fun working up some handloads (nothing crazy)
(Pay no attention to the 6906, it was family photo day :D)

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/Y-T71/C750C22F-77FE-42C2-B20A-0CE9D2F6288F-3973-00000B56A3AA64DB.jpg

[Dan-O]

Mine:

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/yeahitsthatbig/30951630.jpg

Like others have said, maybe a 22# spring and shoot the hell out of it.

[PabloJ]

I recently acquired a s&w 1006. Is there anything I need to know about it? Problems, tips, that sort of thing?
Dickies Perry suspenders come in lovely shades of black, tan and red. Oh yes, do not drop. There is no need to damage perfectly good slate tile floor.

[PabloJ]

I picked this 1006 up about a year ago for $600.

It's my first 10mm but I don't think its gonna be my last.

I've heard it said before but I'll say it again: this thing IS built like a tank.

I changed the recoil spring to a #22 Wolf and have been having fun working up some handloads (nothing crazy)
(Pay no attention to the 6906, it was family photo day :D)

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/Y-T71/C750C22F-77FE-42C2-B20A-0CE9D2F6288F-3973-00000B56A3AA64DB.jpg
Oh come now....... you would say no to Coltie version called 'Double Eagle'? It is slim and suspenders may not be needed to carry that one.:o

[hAkron]

I was on the hunt for a 10mm at the end of last summer. I found a MINT 1006 at a local gun store that isn't known for deals. They must have checked the book value on a 5906 and said "close enough" because it was under $400.00. I had been looking all over for ANY 10mm, not even hoping to find a 1006, let alone to under $900. Needless to say, I couldn't get my wallet out fast enough.

I load plated 160gr Berry's bullets to mid range and I have found HP-38 to be quite accurate in my 1006. Other powders I tested in mid range loads were AA #9, HS-6, and Blue Dot. HP-38 did the best in my tests.

The only problem with shooting 10MM is trying to not lose your brass. I found a deal on a 4506 (similar gun but in .45) for the days when I need to shoot a 3rd gen full sized S&W, but don want to chase my brass.

[Elkins45]

Mine is in good shape with hogue grips with an extra mag got it for $550.
You did well. That's a real bargain. One of the good things I've noticed about the 10XX autos is that I rarely see one in anything other than good shape or better. I think a lot more people bought them than shot them.

My 1006 is an exception to that. Best I can tell it was a police trade in because the gun shop had about 15 of them in a big pile in the display case and all were rubber banded together with 3 mags. I was a bit light on funds at the time (mid-90's) so I barely managed to scrape up the money to get the last one in the case. I didn't know stainless guns could show this much holster wear! The good news is that it's still tight as a drum and is as accurate as any other pistol I own.

I stumbled across a 1076 (4.25" barrel, frame mounted decocker) at the National Gun Day show last year. The guy was asking $450 and settled on $425. Needless to say it went home with me!

[Y-T71]

Gonna have to try some HP-38.
I loaded some Berrys 180's with 7.8 gr Power Pistol and it shot like a laser beam.
I might have broken their recommended velocity threshold casue when I bumped my load up to 8 gr it started to "pattern" instead of group.

Got some jacketed Hornady HAP 180's instead of the plated bullets that I'm going to try for some hotter experiments.

I know what you mean about loosing brass! I've lost two pieces so far and I think I spent more time looking for them than I did shooting that day!

[wow6599]

Is there anything I need to know about it?

Get as many mags and spare parts as you can. S&W told me a couple of years ago they were stopping production of parts for 3rd gen firearms.

I wish I wouldn't have done it, but I sold a NIB 4506-1 with adjustable sights after that phone conversation. (I asked a lot for it, I got a lot for it)

[jerkface11]

I notice in the pictures everyone has the fixed sights. Mine are adjustable. Which were more common?

[jerkface11]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a261/jerkface11/815DEFB2-3846-48BA-A3D2-1F474C8FF009-2356-000000C2C353CD92.jpg

[Y-T71]

Good question on fixed vs adjustable sights. I don't know the answer but I've always preferred adjustable sights (except on my carry guns), even though I've rarely had to adjust them on any of my other guns, I like having the option just the same.

Hope I'm not hijacking the thread but I've noticed everyone so far is sporting Hogue grips. How's everyone like them?

Midway still has a lot of parts (including mags @$33) on their website. That includes the original Delrin grips. I thought about picking up a set but, honestly, I kinda like the Hogues.

[Devonai]

I prefer Hogue grips on most Third Generation pistols; however, I did find the standard grips to be better on the smaller 3913.

[Elkins45]

I've noticed everyone so far is sporting Hogue grips. How's everyone like them?

I have them on my range gun and find them very comfy and not too large even though I have smallish hands. For the 1086 I occasionally carry IWB I prefer the factory grips because my shirt can sometimes cling to the 'grippy' rubber.

[OilyPablo]

The stock grips work OK, but they are a rather hard polymer for the shape/type and can be a bit slippery. Not bad, not great - a personal thing. I may be the Hogue grips someday.

[MachIVshooter]

I notice in the pictures everyone has the fixed sights. Mine are adjustable. Which were more common?

I think the adjustables are actually more common. Mine has them

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n117/Hunter2506/101_1124-1.jpg

[Shadow 7D]

The best and strongest 10mm Auto ever made...one of my favorite pistols in my collection...enough said.....

The Bren Ten may have made the 10mm Auto cartridge popular but the 1006 is the undisputed Queen of the Ten.
+1
if you want to get into 10mm, this is the gun for it.

[meanmrmustard]

+1
if you want to get into 10mm, this is the gun for it.
I'd argue that the G20 SF is probably a better choice.

[Bush Pilot]

I'd argue that the G20 SF is probably a better choice.
Why? I've got both and prefer the 1006 over my Glock. Better accuracy and more comfortable to shoot with comparable loads.

[ZeSpectre]

I recently acquired a s&w 1006. Is there anything I need to know about it?

Yes.
I HATE YOU! <just kidding>.

Seriously though, keep it clean and lightly lubed and you'll have it forever regardless of the rounds you run through it.

DO replace the recoil springs at a fairly regular interval (say every 2k rounds) because that is a lot of energy being handled (and springs are dirt cheap)

[jerkface11]

if you want to get into 10mm, this is the gun for it.

I already have a G20.

[Shadow 7D]

Haven't handled a 20SF, but I did molest a G20, and well.
I think bricks have better ergo's than that thing
and the 1006 I handled, it's got the feel to it.

[meanmrmustard]

Haven't handled a 20SF, but I did molest a G20, and well.
I think bricks have better ergo's than that thing
and the 1006 I handled, it's got the feel to it.
That's where the SF trumps the standard frame. There's a better grip for smaller hands, and the handling is better overall.

Plus, the higher capacity makes one grin.

[jerkface11]

The 1006 weighs more empty than the G20 does fully loaded.

[MachIVshooter]

I'd argue that the G20 SF is probably a better choice.

Maybe if you're a Glockophile. I have both, and if I had to choose, it would be an easy decision. Only one of my five 10mm handguns has never jammed, and it ain't the Glock.

[ATLDave]

I'd argue that the G20 SF is probably a better choice.

As long as you're only shooting moderate loads and not re-using any brass, maybe.

[meanmrmustard]

I guess with me, I prefer having a higher cap gun in that chambering on hand. The 20, to me, is softer shooting and sits low in the hand.
I haven't jammed a Glock yet. I don't beat them up, but nothing I throw at them makes them quit. If I hadn't had to sell my last G20, I'd still be enjoying it.
I also disagree about accuracy: one guy shoots one more accurate than the other, doesn't really prove a whole lot to me.

I think, though I may be wrong; these days there are more parts available for the Glock AND they're cheaper AND still being made.

Edit to add: You can get a MechTech upper for the Glock. Instant carbine.

[meanmrmustard]

As long as you're only shooting moderate loads and not re-using any brass, maybe.
Heavier recoil spring.

[Jaymo]

Nice gun. Second toughest 10mm auto made. Star Megastar is the toughest, strongest.
Seems like the biggest problem with the 1006 is the same problem with all 10mm pistols.
That problem would be finding actual 10mm ammo. Not that .40 Long ammo so often encountered now. Real, honest to God, rip-snorting, full power 10mm ammo.
Of course, the 610 revolver is one helluva tough 10mm, too. It just doesn't fit into the category of autopistol.

[Bush Pilot]

Nice gun. Second toughest 10mm auto made. Star Megastar is the toughest, strongest.
Seems like the biggest problem with the 1006 is the same problem with all 10mm pistols.
That problem would be finding actual 10mm ammo. Not that .40 Long ammo so often encountered now. Real, honest to God, rip-snorting, full power 10mm ammo.
Of course, the 610 revolver is one helluva tough 10mm, too. It just doesn't fit into the category of autopistol.
Problem finding 10mm ammo? Buy yourself a magic blue machine, it'll crank out ammo faster than you can shoot. I don't understand people who won't reload because they think it's too "difficult" or "don't have the time". I guess you'll have the time when ammo is either too expensive or unavailable. Nevermind, we're there now.

[ATLDave]

Heavier recoil spring.

Does nothing about case support. A replacement barrel is the usual prescription.

I'm not saying the Glock isn't good. It's just not the tank that the 1006 is. If what you want to do is run 10mm rounds that approach the original Norma loads, then the 1006 is hard to beat.

[Elkins45]

Have a case failure in a S&W and you might have to replace the grips and maybe the magazine. Do the same in the Glock and you'll likely have to buy a new frame. I did.

The Glock is a good choice if you're only shooting factory ammo or shooting downloaded to 40 S&W speeds. If you wish to resuse your brass or load to original 10mm levels then it's not the best choice.

[meanmrmustard]

Does nothing about case support. A replacement barrel is the usual prescription.

I'm not saying the Glock isn't good. It's just not the tank that the 1006 is. If what you want to do is run 10mm rounds that approach the original Norma loads, then the 1006 is hard to beat.
Lone Wolf is a quick fix.

[meanmrmustard]

Have a case failure in a S&W and you might have to replace the grips and maybe the magazine. Do the same in the Glock and you'll likely have to buy a new frame. I did.

The Glock is a good choice if you're only shooting factory ammo or shooting downloaded to 40 S&W speeds. If you wish to resuse your brass or load to original 10mm levels then it's not the best choice.
That's your fault though. It's no mystery that the chamber isn't fully supported in the stock barrel.

[ATLDave]

OK, but the 1006 doesn't require any aftermarket parts to "fix."

Don't get me wrong, I often swap out parts on guns. I like that. But the 1006 is "ready to rock" from day one, and that's an advantage for someone getting into a new caliber.

[meanmrmustard]

OK, but the 1006 doesn't require any aftermarket parts to "fix."

Don't get me wrong, I often swap out parts on guns. I like that. But the 1006 is "ready to rock" from day one, and that's an advantage for someone getting into a new caliber.
Unless you want a ported, threaded, or extended barrel to begin with.

I bought an extended, threaded Lone Wolf with a brake right off the bat, sold the OEM which helped quite a bit...so I was only out a weeks time, $65, and I was "ready to rock" with a pretty nice setup. That was still cheaper than a used 1006 at the time. Plus, I had warranty, after market support, and parts available in nearly any gun shop around to fire full fledged 10 Auto.

[SharpsDressedMan]

Downside? If you damage parts on the 1006, particularly the barrel and/or bushing, those and other parts are getting harder to find, and may go the way of the dodo bird in the next 5-8 years.

[jerkface11]

Barrel bushing??

[MachIVshooter]

Second toughest 10mm auto made. Star Megastar is the toughest, strongest.

It's the heaviest and bulkiest, but not the strongest. Softer metal (typical spanish gun) and, IIRC, thinner chamber walls.

I still want a megastar, but the 1006 is far and away a superior firearm.

[Y-T71]

Acually 3rd Gens do have a seprate, replaceable barrel bushing. They are not supposed to be user serviceable but can/could be factory replaced.
I think there were/are a company or two that sold and installed aftermarket replacements.
Briley comes to mind.

[Elkins45]

That's your fault though. It's no mystery that the chamber isn't fully supported in the stock barrel.
It didn't happen with a stock barrel. This particular case failed so far back that no barrel would have supported it. Swapping parts isn't always the answer.

[meanmrmustard]

It didn't happen with a stock barrel. This particular case failed so far back that no barrel would have supported it. Swapping parts isn't always the answer.
This sounds fishy. What barrel?

[OilyPablo]

And this thread turns ugly when Glock comes into. Listen I HAVE a Glock 20. But let's stick with S&W 1006.

[Elkins45]

This sounds fishy. What barrel?
Fishy? Cases can't rupture?

The barrel is irrelevant. It was a batch of "once fired" brass that wasn't all as "once fired" as I was led to believe. I had one let go in my 1006 the next time I went to the range. The magazine lost its floor plate and I had to search for the spring for a while, but the gun itself was unharmed.

I fired 450 rounds from that box of 500 in both guns with no problems whatsoever, then had two case failures within about 20 rounds of each other. I pulled all the bullets from the few rounds remaining and weighed the charges to see if maybe the powder measure had gotten loose but they were all within 0.1 grain. A double charge would have overflowed the case so that couldn't have been the issue.

You seem to have to taken offense, as if I was insulting Glock. In fact I am very appreciative that they replaced my shattered frame as reasonably as they did, especially since it wasn't their fault. But the fact remains that a polymer gun just isn't going to survive a case rupture in the same way as a steel framed gun. It's the nature of the material, and that's why I think so highly of the 10XX guns.

[Jaymo]

Star Megastar was not made of soft steel. Star's pistols were as good as anyone's and better than many.
Don't get me wrong, I like the third gen Smith autos. They're great guns. But, they are NOT tougher than the Megastar.
They may be easier to get parts for. For now, anyway. Too bad, because neither gun deserved to go the way of the dodo.

Bushpilot, I DO reload. I was talking about BUYING ammo off the shelf that is real 10mm, full power. Like you could in the early-mid 1990s.

[meanmrmustard]

Fishy? Cases can't rupture?

The barrel is irrelevant. It was a batch of "once fired" brass that wasn't all as "once fired" as I was led to believe. I had one let go in my 1006 the next time I went to the range. The magazine lost its floor plate and I had to search for the spring for a while, but the gun itself was unharmed.

I fired 450 rounds from that box of 500 in both guns with no problems whatsoever, then had two case failures within about 20 rounds of each other. I pulled all the bullets from the few rounds remaining and weighed the charges to see if maybe the powder measure had gotten loose but they were all within 0.1 grain. A double charge would have overflowed the case so that couldn't have been the issue.

You seem to have to taken offense, as if I was insulting Glock. In fact I am very appreciative that they replaced my shattered frame as reasonably as they did, especially since it wasn't their fault. But the fact remains that a polymer gun just isn't going to survive a case rupture in the same way as a steel framed gun. It's the nature of the material, and that's why I think so highly of the 10XX guns.
I didn't take offense. Just curious. I never experienced your problem, even with hot reloads.

1006 are fine guns, I just find the G20 has more "pluses" to it. Mileage varies, so no offense received.

[Elkins45]

I didn't take offense. Just curious. I never experienced your problem, even with hot reloads.

1006 are fine guns, I just find the G20 has more "pluses" to it. Mileage varies, so no offense received.

Me either, in 20+ years of hand loading. I think the numbers finally just caught up with me. It's a cumulative thing: every round you shoot increases your chances of getting one with a flaw regardless of what caused that flaw

I think the fact you can still buy them is a HUGE plus, as is the 15 round magazine capacity and the large selection of aftermarket barrels and other accessories. I have a 357 Sig conversion barrel for mine as well as an extended, threaded barrel for shooting lead. Those are things that will never be available for a 10XX gun, so I understand your viewpoint...but this recent experience has colored my opinion of polymer guns. Maybe too much? Just as an interesting exercise, try to find a new production 40 S&W (the 10mm's ugly sister) that doesn't have a polymer frame. Steel framed guns other than 1911's aren't exactly flooding the market these days.

My hand size also makes me gravitate to the single stack 10XX guns because even the SF frame is more than a handful to me. But every gun is a compromise. I tend to carry the Glock more but shoot the 10XX guns more.

[Roooster]

traded a baretta 92 in 9mm for my LNIB 1006 a year ago, with the matching shipping box and paper work and i gotta tell ya i think i got the better deal, also have her little brother 4006, they both have a forever home.

[SharpsDressedMan]

Sig and CZ make metal framed .40's.

[jdh]

The weight issue vs glock, the glock may carry better but the 1006 has less felt recoil, the recoil is not as snappy, and not as much muzzle rise (for me anyway) because of the weight and the way it is distributed.

[meanmrmustard]

The weight issue vs glock, the glock may carry better but the 1006 has less felt recoil, the recoil is not as snappy, and not as much muzzle rise (for me anyway) because of the weight and the way it is distributed.
Not when you have a G20 with a brake on it!

Less recoil, but doesn't carry for crap!

[jerkface11]

Sig and CZ make metal framed .40's.

Uh ok?

[hAkron]

traded a baretta 92 in 9mm for my LNIB 1006 a year ago, with the matching shipping box and paper work and i gotta tell ya i think i got the better deal, also have her little brother 4006, they both have a forever home.

After picking up my 1006, I've also added a 4506-1, and I plan on adding a 5906 and a 4006 whenever I can score a deal on one. The XX06 guns are really excellent.

[gb6491]

After picking up my 1006, I've also added a 4506-1, and I plan on adding a 5906 and a 4006 whenever I can score a deal on one. The XX06 guns are really excellent.
I was looking for a 4506-1, but ended up finding a 10mm; not a 1006, but this:
http://i40.tinypic.com/250pj5f.jpg
It shows some external wear, but I've been pleased with it's performance:)
Regards,
Greg

[OilyPablo]

1026. You hound. Nice!