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aladdin
January 11, 2013, 04:46 PM
I had a LEE XR that worked great. Then one of the corner clips on the cover broke. Now the trouble begins. LEE will not sell a replacement cover you have to send them the whole tool. The redesigned model they sent me does not work as well as the original. Mostly feeding problems primers turned over double feed and sideways.:cuss:
so what hand primer works for you.

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NeuseRvrRat
January 11, 2013, 04:52 PM
the RCBS hand primer with the round tray works great for me. only issue i had was getting Lee shellholders to work on it. i had to use a knife to trim up some plastic on the pieces the shellholders sit on to get the Lee shellholders to fit. RCBS shellholders work great with it.

RCBS also has a model with a square tray that has a universal shellholder. i'd like to give it a try.

rcmodel
January 11, 2013, 05:27 PM
+1

RCBS

rc

Spammy_H
January 11, 2013, 05:37 PM
I've used the old Lee Auto Prime, which wasn't very ergonomic, and you had to use their proprietary Auto Prime shellholders.

I've used the RCBS hand primer with Lee shell holders, which works great, and I have not experienced problems with the interaction between Lee shell holders and the RCBS tool. As a Lefty, I'd develop a blister on my thumb due to the orientation of the tool in my hand.

The RCBS has very good leverage and ergonomics (for a righty). The Lee tool's lever didn't have as much leverage as RCBS'.

The Hornady tool looks a little dinky. Haven't tried the RCBS universal or the newer Lee ones.

45lcshooter
January 11, 2013, 05:49 PM
Old Lee Auto Prime. Keeps on working great, after over 10yrs and thousands of rounds primed.

floydster
January 11, 2013, 06:46 PM
I have the old Lee handprimer, still works great, however I bought the new Lee Ergo prime and love it even more.
I gave up on priming on my LNL, I can prime 100 cases almost as fast as loading a primer tube---with out the headaches and stoppages:)

Smokeyloads

Steve H
January 11, 2013, 07:38 PM
I have a Lee hand primer, been using it for almost 20 years. So much the ears that hold the lid on are pretty worn. About a year ago I bought a RCBS hand primer, it;s the one that does not use shell holders. They both work well, but the new one does some gettin used to.

Reloadron
January 11, 2013, 07:55 PM
I have an old Lee hand primer and a RCBS hand priming tool. Only issue with the Lee is that mine uses the Lee priming shell holders where the RCBS uses the same shell holders I load with. The RCBS also places a bar between the primer being loaded and the rest where the Lee does not. Both work fine but given a choice I prefer the RCBS.

Ron

rikman
January 11, 2013, 08:08 PM
+2 RCBS one in large & small primers.

http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae133/FLYFIDO/RCBS_zpsa0152898.jpg

James2
January 11, 2013, 08:55 PM
Here is another vote for the RCBS hand primer. No problems at all with mine.

Honest John
January 11, 2013, 09:04 PM
I was detonating too many primers with my Lee Classic Loader setup, so I bought a RCBS universal hand primer. It works magnificently, I recommend it very highly.

beatledog7
January 11, 2013, 09:41 PM
I like the Hornady hand primer well enough to have two, one set up for small and one for large primers.

cfullgraf
January 11, 2013, 10:14 PM
I have the RCBS Universal hand primer, both with the tray and the APS versions. I like it, it has been a suitable replacement for the original Lee Auto-Prime that I used for decades.

I was not impressed with the updated Lee.

I have found at least one case that the RCBS Universal will not prime. It is 410 brass shot gun hulls.

SlowFuse
January 11, 2013, 11:17 PM
I use the old Lee system. Cheap and works just fine for me.

witchhunter
January 11, 2013, 11:56 PM
I have two, one for large and one for small, Lee hand primers. They have worked well for years. But I like the feel of the RCBS also.

Havok7416
January 12, 2013, 12:30 AM
One of my Lee hand primers had the same issue as the OP. I just let it sit on there and keep the angle of the handle tilted or if I am particularly fed up I will tape it in place. It still works so I have no reason to replace it.

aladdin
January 12, 2013, 11:23 AM
One of my Lee hand primers had the same issue as the OP. I just let it sit on there and keep the angle of the handle tilted or if I am particularly fed up I will tape it in place. It still works so I have no reason to replace it.
If I had known what the new one was going to be like I would have kept the original with the broken cover. but I got fed up with it.
I am going to try an RCBS.

Craigman
January 12, 2013, 12:15 PM
I dont have a good reccomendation but just some experience with my RCBS one. I have the RCBS with the round tray. What I dont like about it is that the little screw, that holds the blocker bar, comes loose all the time and I have to constantly tighten it. Once it came loose and when I went for the next squeeze, I bent it all up. Also the plastic needs trimming to accept some shell holders and I even had to trim my small primer one to let primers into it. Also, the plastic lid come loos alot and primers will flip if you dont pay attention.

In short, not reccomended....works, but finicky..

Maybe Ill try the Hornady next.

Walkalong
January 12, 2013, 01:43 PM
I replaced a Lee with an RCBS and really like it. I have used it for going on 30 years now. I am sure others work well too. The Lee worked fine, I just wanted to try the RCBS. I liked it better, so I switched and ended up giving the Lee to someone who needed a hand primer.

jmorris
January 12, 2013, 01:46 PM
I have a Lee that works but I like the feel of my RCBS (round tray version) better.

918v
January 12, 2013, 01:50 PM
The RCBS is a pot metal low quality tool. Get the Hornady primer tool. It is made from machined steel and aluminum.

Flatbush Harry
January 12, 2013, 02:26 PM
I have both the standard and the universal hand primers from RCBS. I mostly use the universal one...it is convenient and works great...I've probably primed 3,000 cases, both rimmed handgun and rimless rifle, with mine. I've had no problems with either the tool or the primed cases.

FH

splattergun
January 13, 2013, 12:35 AM
strange... when I broke the corner clip of the cover on my Lee hand primer a quick email to Lee CS and I got a new cover in the mail 3 days later, gratis.

Update: just checked Lee's website, they are out of stock of the cover.

ole farmerbuck
January 13, 2013, 12:44 AM
I like the Hornady hand primer well enough to have two, one set up for small and one for large primers.
Yep

02bigdogs17
January 13, 2013, 10:41 AM
I have used a lot of hand primers from all different makers and the best one I have found is the new Lee Ergo Prime.

jb27
January 13, 2013, 05:30 PM
I have the RCBS one with the square box and universal shell holder. I've primed large and small pistol and rifle without any problems. I would recommend it highly.

matrem
January 13, 2013, 06:01 PM
I like the Lee, but am currently using my third one in twenty five years.
Have a "brand new square Lee" ready for duty when this one's done...

Come to think of it;
Maybe I should've tried RCBS or Hornady before buying that fourth one.

soloban
January 13, 2013, 07:00 PM
The Lee one works fine for me. My only beef is that I've got a round style tray and would rather have a square tray to make dumping primers in a lot easier.

Trent
January 13, 2013, 07:23 PM
Woah, RCBS really changed their design at some point.

Mine looks nothing like that one. (Bought mine back in 1990-something)

drturi
January 13, 2013, 08:00 PM
RCBS without a doubt.

cfullgraf
January 13, 2013, 08:03 PM
RCBS sells two different hand primers with trays these days. The round tray version uses shell holders, the square tray version has a universal shell holder.

Then there is the APS hand priming tool which has not tray at all.

I am not sure if they changed the design of the round tray tool since the 90s but I could be wrong. I believe the universal shell holder tools are relatively new designs, 5 to 10 years or so.

Trent
January 14, 2013, 10:40 AM
Ok, I use the round one. I'd never seen one before with the Universal tray holder. Can't say I've shopped for one though. The round one has loaded thousands and thousands and thousands of primers without issue, never seen a need to replace it!

I wouldn't doubt if RCBS changed materials at some point. This is something that makes me cautious about making recommendations of something I used in the past because the current form might be substantially different than the old version.

For example;

Their old Kinetic hammers were indestructible, metal shaft affairs. Mine has survived thousands of impacts against concrete. HARD impacts (pulled quite a bit of 30 cal military brass with sealed projectiles once, it was a brutal affair.)

The new Kinetic pullers they sell are 100% plastic, no metal shaft for the hand grip; I have a friend who's broke TWO of them now just pulling 45ACP ammo he's screwed up.

918v
January 14, 2013, 11:44 AM
Not only that, the new collet is made of some cheap arsch aluminum. I sheared off the lips in under 100 rounds whereas the old collet lasted 20 years. Maybe the new collet is made of 6061 and the old out of 7075?

ArchAngelCD
January 14, 2013, 11:49 AM
Another RCBS hand primer fan here. It's a great tool!

Trent
January 14, 2013, 12:11 PM
Not only that, the new collet is made of some cheap arsch aluminum. I sheared off the lips in under 100 rounds whereas the old collet lasted 20 years. Maybe the new collet is made of 6061 and the old out of 7075?

Yeah my friend showed me his (fourth or fifth) collet as well, when I was over there last time.

I'm still on the original collet and my original kinetic puller from the late 90's, and I've (literally) beat the hell out of the thing. I had to buy one O-Ring once upon a time, but the original collet is still in use.

greenmtnguy
January 15, 2013, 02:55 AM
I've been considering the Hornady hand primer but for now my RCBS one (has the round plastic primer tray) is still working pretty good. I don't do a huge quantity of cartridges (50-100) at a time, and I enjoy the quiet, peaceful time in my own corner of the house..

southwindva
January 15, 2013, 06:38 AM
Anyone here that uses the Forster primer seater? Looks nice.

Walkalong
January 15, 2013, 08:38 AM
I have never used one, but one of our posters swears by it.

Welcome to THR

918v
January 15, 2013, 09:52 AM
Looks slow to set up.

lightman
January 16, 2013, 06:37 PM
Guess I'll be the first to say Sinclair. Pricey, but very high quality. Lightman

jcwit
January 16, 2013, 07:05 PM
Or a K & M, not quite as pricey, and still a high quality tool.

Grassman
January 16, 2013, 07:27 PM
I just bought the Lee XR, it's OK not thrilled with it. Jams a lot of primers, looks like it may not last too long as it might break.

Captaingyro
January 18, 2013, 11:07 AM
I use the RCBS APS hand priming system which uses the priming strips, and I really like it. It has the universal shell holder. The RCBS tool gives you a great feel for when the primer is fully seated, and priming goes pretty fast.

CCI primers are available pre-loaded in the APS strips for a very small premium over the cost of boxed primers. The strips themselves last almost indefinitely, so you can reload them with any brand of primer you prefer (or find the cheapest) with the optional strip loader. The whole system seems very well designed and engineered.

PJSprog
January 18, 2013, 02:02 PM
I've been using the old Lee Auto Prime for almost 25 years...never had a problem with it.

Walkalong
January 18, 2013, 02:59 PM
Sinclair. Pricey,Superb priming tool, but yes, they are proud of them. I have never used mine for anything but 6PPC.

As long as the primer is seated to the bottom of the primer pocket, and it isn't crushed, which is very hard to do, it will go bang, and if it goes bang, you don't have a problem.

dsm
January 18, 2013, 03:52 PM
For non critical sporter rifle/handgun loading, I use a Lee that I got in 1990. Still works flawless! Target stuff, I have two K&M primer tools.

I was able to look at a 21st Century Shooting primer tool and it pretty darn nice. Pricey, but very well built. http://www.21stcenturyshooting.com/Priming_Tool.php

CharlieDeltaJuliet
January 18, 2013, 03:59 PM
I use the RCBS round tray hand primer. It works great for me.

engineermike
January 18, 2013, 09:39 PM
I have the RCBS universal hand primer and I would recommend it, no shell holders to buy and fits a lot of calibers.

.22-5-40
January 18, 2013, 11:58 PM
Back in mid 70's, I started out with the die-cast Lee hand priming tool..no primer magazine back then! The I tried the RCBS die-cast tool. Finally got tired of the non-precision spongy feel of tool as it wore in (or out)..and purchased the standard solid steel constucted K&M..not the fancy dial indicator equiped one..constant use for over 20 years..same great precise feel when seating..though bluing on handle is just starting to wear a bit!

Ala Dan
January 19, 2013, 05:56 AM
the best there is~! ;)

Nappers
January 19, 2013, 06:08 AM
RCBS, I buy 2 shell holders, one for the press and one for the primer gizmo.

I reload .06, .270 and .45acp, same shell holder!

209jones
January 20, 2013, 05:11 PM
If you have Lee trays, try a 21st century retrofit on the body, can still use the trays and shellholders, the ergonomics are way better, and it really is a nice unit to use.

Havok7416
January 20, 2013, 05:13 PM
If you have Lee trays, try a 21st century retrofit on the body, can still use the trays and shellholders, the ergonomics are way better, and it really is a nice unit to use.
Care to provide a link?

jcwit
January 20, 2013, 05:27 PM
Doubt this is what you're looking for but here is a "good one" to say the least.

http://www.kmshooting.com/catalog/primer-seater-tools/primer_gauge.html

Havok7416
January 20, 2013, 05:29 PM
Wow! That's a ton of money! And here I thought reloading was supposed to save me money...:rolleyes:

209jones
January 20, 2013, 06:33 PM
They are not cheap, but, are a good tool, here is your link;

http://www.21stcenturyshooting.com/Priming_Tool.php

hueyville
January 20, 2013, 08:16 PM
I have the older and newer Lee models. My preference is the RCBS. I have four so can keep one set up for small and large pistol and rifle. I have been using a Sinclair for my match primers but will be ordering a unit from KM Shooting tomorrow. Somehow those slipped by me.

Havok7416
January 20, 2013, 09:24 PM
Hueyville,

Since the large pistol and large rifle are the same size, why have one specifically for each one? Just seems like a waste to me but if it makes you happy then that's cool!

hueyville
January 20, 2013, 09:34 PM
Because it is easier if working more than one project at a time. Big decal on top tells me what is in each so pick up what I need and most have to do is change shell holder. Don't have to worry bout a stray rifle primer in the ram if moving to pistols. Why not?

Havok7416
January 20, 2013, 10:48 PM
So you keep them loaded up with primers? I guess that would simplify things for mass reloading. I'm not being critical, just curious.

hueyville
January 21, 2013, 02:02 AM
I dump the primers in, use till done and set back in its holder. Never take primers out to put others in. I actually have two extra labeled trays for each. That way when priming and tray goes empty, I stick another in and hand the empty to wife so she can refill and be part of the fun. She likes making all the little primers flip up correctly. I keep priming she fills trays and coffee cups and all is good. I ask her for the small pistol primer and she just has to read the label to hand me correct machine. Almost impossible to ever forget what was in that tray.

Havok7416
January 21, 2013, 08:55 AM
That's pretty cool Huey. I usually use all the primers in the tray so there wouldn't be anything to put back anyway.

aladdin
January 21, 2013, 05:07 PM
Just primed a batch of 50 45 LC with my new RCBS. The square tray model with the universal shell holder. the feeding of the primers was perfect. I like the gate for closing off the primer feed for storage. The cover for the tray is a bit of a pain to remove. The universal shell holder takes some getting use to. To bad they don't make the square tray model that uses regular shell holders. So far overall I like it better than the LEE. One more thing worth mentioning is the LEE tray works way better than the RCBS for flipping or wright siding the primers.

aladdin
January 21, 2013, 05:45 PM
I have used a lot of hand primers from all different makers and the best one I have found is the new Lee Ergo Prime.
I just got a RCBS see my follow up post.
just wondering about the egro prime does it use the same tray and feed design as the XR. Is there a loose or un captured primer between the two lift pins.

oncewaslost
January 21, 2013, 06:42 PM
aladdin,
What did they replace it with, another XR that just don't work? The cover on my XR has broke. For now I slip a heavy rubber band over it to use it.

aladdin
January 21, 2013, 11:02 PM
aladdin,
What did they replace it with, another XR that just don't work? The cover on my XR has broke. For now I slip a heavy rubber band over it to use it.
The first model XR that I had did not have the little tower on the cover or the metal tab between the lift pins that the new design has. It worked very well. I have trouble with The new model feeding the primers I would get doubles and some turned over and some on edge.

Havok7416
January 21, 2013, 11:19 PM
Well I certainly didn't think of the rubber band. Thanks for the idea!

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