Consensus building: New AWB Unlikely


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baz
January 12, 2013, 12:46 PM
Interesting take here (http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/161384/):
A PALPABLE LACK OF ENTHUSIASM: Dem Senator Mark Begich: I’m “not interested” in a new assault-weapons ban. “Other red-state Democrats up for reelection: Mary Landrieu, Max Baucus, Tim Johnson, Kay Hagan, and Mark Pryor. Landrieu and Baucus voted no when the last AWB came up for renewal in 2004, and although Pryor voted yes, Arkansas wasn’t quite as red then as it is now. There’s no chance Reid will get to 60 in the Senate for a new ban; there’s a very slim chance that he won’t even get to 50. If you’re Pryor and you’re facing a tough campaign on unfavorable terrain, what’s your incentive for voting for a new AWB that hasn’t a prayer of passing?” Especially when it’s not going to get through the House.
I'm in AR, and am keeping up the pressure on Pryor. Any other Hogs on THR should be doing the same.

This, of course, doesn't mean the fight is over, or even that we are winning. At best here, we can only hope to hold our own, and then only if we keep up the fight. Sheriff Joe will probably call for an AWB, and Obama will probably put his name to it, but an AWB is unlikely. But there is still the possibility of them trying to do something, that would cause us to lose ground, by EO. They seem to think they can close the "gun show loophole" via EO, but I'm sure that will prove controversial if they try it, and probably be one for the courts.

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hso
January 12, 2013, 12:58 PM
Everyone should look at the Activism thread showing the politicians coming up for reelection in 2014 that are soft on RKBA or an AWB. Focus on the ones that aren't committed for or against us and send individual letters to the ones representing you telling them each measure you support and the ones you oppose. Tell them that you know they're up for reelection in 2014 and that you pledge your time and money to support their reelection if they represent you the way you want to be represented. Tell them you'll pledge the same support or more to their opponent in the primary or general election if they don't represent you and vote to permit any further restrictions on firearms owners.

Wyndage
January 12, 2013, 01:00 PM
Just don't get too comfortable. ObamaCare was "dead" before it wasn't.

r1derbike
January 12, 2013, 02:13 PM
Just don't get too comfortable. ObamaCare was "dead" before it wasn't.
Exactly. I have written multiple times to Pryor, Boozman, and Womack via email, and third party forwarded petitions. One response from Womack, stating he will not vote for 2nd amendment attacks. What this truly means is anyone's guess, and could mean anything.

I am also in AR, and everyone must keep the pressure on full-throttle. I am.

hso, I have taken the liberty to include your paragraph about treating the population the same as one madman. Thank you for penning that. One particularly disgusted day, I penned this letter:

https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/x102/comment/635163

KTXdm9
January 12, 2013, 07:38 PM
Finally, someone using common sense rather than panicking. Keep calling, writing, etc, and stay active.

jerkface11
January 12, 2013, 10:23 PM
Neither of Arkansas's senators has replied to me yet.

wacki
January 13, 2013, 02:36 AM
I'm more worried about magazine limits.

Non of my indiana politicians have written back.

HorseSoldier
January 13, 2013, 02:55 AM
A PALPABLE LACK OF ENTHUSIASM: Dem Senator Mark Begich: I’m “not interested” in a new assault-weapons ban.

I don't see Begich voting in favor of any firearms legislation pushed out by Obama, both because it's not something he seems personally in favor of and because his constituents would frag him in the 2014 mid terms. He only beat Ted Stevens by a percentage point or so, even with Steven conveniently being indicted of various federal felonies just before the election, which subsequently flopped due to prosecutorial misconduct.

Bubba613
January 13, 2013, 02:57 AM
Here;s why it won't pass:

“As many of you know, I grew up in Searchlight, in a home surrounded by the desert. Our dusty town didn’t have a high school, we didn’t have a grocery store, and there wasn’t even a place to buy a bullet.

“So it was a big deal when I could go out with my brother and father to shoot at targets out in open land. We’d take turns using our bolt-action .22-caliber rifle. Now I have eight guns, but I still have that .22, and it’s still my favorite.

“I have passed my love of shooting to my own grandchildren. My grandson Mason has come to love shooting sports just as much as his grandfather.

“Many of you have similar stories from your childhood – stories of bonding with your parents and siblings while shooting targets or shooting dinner – and stories of bonding with your children and grandchildren.

“Now your families and mine are fortunate to have such an impressive place to learn the skills of sport shooting – to learn the importance of safe shooting – to exercise our Second-Amendment rights – and to celebrate our Western heritage.

“I am so pleased that Wayne LaPierre is with us today. We have stood together in so many battles over the years.

“Just a few years ago we worked to protect our gun manufacturers from junk lawsuits. And as a result of that legislation, America’s gun companies are still America’s gun companies. That good law protected thousands of good jobs.

“Wayne and I also stood together to defeat the so-called Assault Weapons Ban. I voted against the ban when it was first proposed, I voted against it when folks tried to renew it, and I will continue to oppose it.

“As you can imagine, my Democratic colleagues are not always thrilled with my votes on gun issues, but I tell them this: Guns aren’t a political issue for me.

“Guns are something I grew up with. Guns are part of what it means to live in the West. We hunt, we shoot and we do it responsibly. It’s who we are.

MDW GUNS
January 13, 2013, 03:02 AM
It's the old tactic to pile up as much as you can and lets see what we can settle on!
I hope this will go by and nothing will change.
If anything, they should lift the CCW ban in public schools!!

By the way, anyone here not yet in the NRA??
Membership now for $25!!

BHP FAN
January 13, 2013, 04:22 AM
get a life! Life Membership in the NRA, that is...

Avenger29
January 13, 2013, 04:30 AM
If anything, they should lift the CCW ban in public schools!!

While I agree let's focus on first making sure that we won't have a heap of crap thrown on top of us like the WH, Media, and many of our enemies in Congress want.

Then we get to go on the offensive!

I think it's a matter of time before more and more states allow CCW in schools. Getting a CCW permit has become extremely popular these days so as more and more CCWers join our ranks the better of a chance we have of getting what we want. But I don't see it happening on a federal basis...

MDW GUNS
January 13, 2013, 06:39 AM
So after all no AR!!
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

Hacker15E
January 13, 2013, 06:56 AM
So after all no AR!!
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

Look at the date on that video -- it is not new information, rather it is old information that has since been dis-proven by subsequent information.

MDW GUNS
January 13, 2013, 07:25 AM
Shows you how often I watch NBC!

avs11054
January 13, 2013, 08:34 AM
Baz,

Why will Sheriff Joe call for an AWB?

kwguy
January 13, 2013, 09:42 AM
Please Please Please don't let up. I can see it now: Biden gives his recommendations (and you know what those will be, they will STILL push for an AWB). The media will go crazy again, and this fight will intensify. Don't give any slack.

cfullgraf
January 13, 2013, 10:02 AM
Right.

Do not forget that politicians speak with forked tongues. Do not believe a thing until the vote is taken.

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