I would like some of your pet loads for the 40 S&W.


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minnesota
January 13, 2013, 02:29 PM
I was wondering if any of you would be willing to let me know your pet loads for the 40 S&W. I would also like to know what the best powders are for this cartridge.

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918v
January 13, 2013, 02:35 PM
155 Gold Dot
4grs Titegroup
WSP
1.120" OAL

I think TG is the best powder for minimum loads in the 40.

oldpapps
January 13, 2013, 02:52 PM
40 XTP 155 231 5.4 923 SPFD XD
40 L 155 231 5.3 912 SPFD XD
40 XTP 155 TightGroup 5.8 1069 SPFD XD

Spread sheets don't cut&past well.

The TightGroup loading gives me more velocity but I use the 231 most of the time. Almost the same trajectory with both lead and jacketed.

Dis-calmer: This data is for reference only. Loaded with my components, in the manner that I load they are safe in my weapon/s. This does not infer that these loads are safe in your weapon/s, with your component, loaded in the manner that you load.

CGT80
January 13, 2013, 04:33 PM
135 berrys plated bullet over 5.3 grains of win 231/hp-38. This load is very soft in my XD 4". My brother has and XD 5" and has to run 5.7 grains of powder for the same load. I run as light as possible, due to shooting competitions and needing speed.

231/hp38 is a great universal powder for pistols. It is great for 9,40,45,38spl,45 colt, 44 spl, and it works in 357 mag and 44 mag for light loads. It is also fairly easy to find data for it. It even works well for my dad's 9mm compensated 1911 race gun, but we have to load over the max published data (very common for race guns).

Hamish
January 13, 2013, 05:03 PM
A couple of favorites:

Rainier 180gr HPFB with 4.2gr of TiteGroup OAL 1.125 891.7 fps (Glock 23)
Rainier 180gr HPFB with 7.2gr of AA#7 OAL 1.125 908.3 fps (Glock 23)
Precision Delta 180gr JFN 4.2 of TiteGroup OAL 1.125 844 fps (Sig P226)

all with Winchester SPP.

Chip1wa
January 13, 2013, 05:15 PM
7.7 gr of Longshot with a 180gr Hornady XTP loaded to 1.120"with range pickup brass gives me right at 1180fps out of my Glock 22. 8gr is listed as max for what it's worth. This load really livens up the feedback from my G22, G27, and PM40.

For plinking loads that gives me the 1.5" groups at 50' I use the 180gr Bayou Bullet with range pickup over 6.1 gr of Power Pistol loaded to 1.115" OAL. I didn't own a chrono when I developed this load, so I'm not really sure of the muzzle velocity.

Dirty

Ifishsum
January 13, 2013, 05:15 PM
For general range use I usually load a plated 155-165 bullet (depending on local supply) and AA #7 in the 9 gr range with a CCI spp.

birddog2
January 13, 2013, 05:30 PM
135 gr plated over 6.0 g Unique OAL 1.2 = 1" 25yrd groups out of my CZ 40b

HighExpert
January 13, 2013, 11:57 PM
.40 S&W
JHP 155gr
6.5 Unique
1.118 OAL
1120 FPS

.40 S&W Practice
JHP/JFP 155gr
5.7 Bullseye
1.118 OAL
890 FPS

Here are two of mine.

gamestalker
January 13, 2013, 11:58 PM
155 gr. XTP's, or 155 gr. Gold Dots for bullets. And then either Longshot or HS6 for the powder and CCI-500's. As for powder charge tables, I recomend you find a powder or bullet manufacture charge table online, or buy a book. Personally, I would not use any data that isn't from a trusted SAAMI approved source, too much risk of human error.

GS

minnesota
January 14, 2013, 06:52 PM
Thanks for the help, keep it coming if you can.

jcwit
January 14, 2013, 07:16 PM
You are actually accepting reloading from unknown folks via the internet?

Suggest you purchase a reloading manual or at the least do a search of the powder manufactures and their suggested loads.

Just wondering, do you date French models?

Thats a joke, from a TV add.

bigfinger76
January 14, 2013, 07:47 PM
165 gr. Ranier plated over ~6.5 gr. Unique, COAL 1.130

minnesota
January 14, 2013, 08:42 PM
You are actually accepting reloading from unknown folks via the internet?

Suggest you purchase a reloading manual or at the least do a search of the powder manufactures and their suggested loads.

Just wondering, do you date French models?

Thats a joke, from a TV add.
I have several load manuals to verify the load data with and I can also look it up at hodgdon or alliant amongst others. I am doing this to try and narrow my options for powders to try.

jcwit
January 14, 2013, 08:46 PM
Understood!

JLDickmon
January 14, 2013, 08:54 PM
no one uses Unique or 180 hardballs?

cowtownup
January 14, 2013, 08:58 PM
I wish I would have done this also... I just bought Power Pistol off the cuff to reload 40 S&W... I'm sure I will be able to use it, just may not be the best choice...

bigfinger76
January 14, 2013, 09:31 PM
no one uses Unique or 180 hardballs?
I do! See above...

Seedyn
February 20, 2013, 06:01 PM
180 gr Missouri LTCFP 4.6 g Universal
1.126 COAL Chronos @ ~975 Clean
and more accurate than me!

THe Dove
February 20, 2013, 06:18 PM
Welcome aboard Seedyn.

The Dove

gahunter12
February 20, 2013, 06:56 PM
Always verify data posted, and work up yourself. That said my favorite loads are:
180gr Berry's RSFP/ 3.8gr WST/ OAL: 1.129"/CCI SPP = Glock22 w/15lb recoil spring
180gr Berry's RSFP/ 4.0gr WST/ OAL: 1.129"/CCI SPP = XDm40 4.5 w/ factory spring

Note: 3.8gr is .1gr below the recommend start charge. It will cycle a factory spring in a glock fine for range use, but slide speed was a little slow for double taps.

bds
February 20, 2013, 07:18 PM
Disclaimer: Use the following unpublished loads at your own risk.

These are my target loads (BTW, Hodgdon recently added 40S&W load data for Berry's plated bullets (http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp) in 155/165/180 gr):

165 gr Montana Gold FMJ/JHP 5.0 gr W231/HP-38

180 gr Berry's/PowerBond/Rainier TCFP/RNFP 4.0-4.5 gr W231/HP-38

180 gr MBC TCFP (IDP #5): 3.8 - 4.5 gr W231/HP-38
180 gr MBC TCFP (IDP #5): 3.6 - 4.0 gr Promo/Red Dot
170 gr MBC SWC (IDP #2): 4.0 - 4.8 gr W231/HP-38
155 gr MBC SWC (IDP #9): 4.8 - 5.1 gr W231/HP-38
140 gr MBC TCFP (IDP #7): 5.0 - 5.5 gr W231/HP-38

GLOOB
February 20, 2013, 07:32 PM
no one uses Unique or 180 hardballs?
I'm using 5.4gr UN behind a 175gr cast bullet. I can't remember how I came up with this load, so use at your own risk.

Stormin.40
February 20, 2013, 08:13 PM
I used the following, work up you own load using the proper manuals.

Light & accurate: 155gr LSWC - 4.0gr Title group - 1.130 OAL
Indoor range: 165gr FP plated - 7.6gr HS-6 - 1.125 OAL
Outdoor range: 180gr Lead RN - 6.6gr HS-6 - 1.125 OAL

JDGray
February 20, 2013, 08:34 PM
Power pistol is the absolute best powder for 40S&W that I have ever used. Mid to max loads with any fmj, shoot great in my CZ40B, and in my G23, G35:D

rg1
February 20, 2013, 09:10 PM
40 S&W personal load data. Check your manuals and work up!
I've recently started loading 40 S&W and have only shot 165 fmj-fn, 165 Golden Sabers and some 155 Hornady XTP's.
With 165 FMJ-FN----CCI 500 primers in Win cases---oal 1.125"
Power Pistol--6.7 grains-1010 fps average------7.0-1030----7.2-1065 fps
Win Super Field----6.0 gr.-970-------6.3-1000-----6.6-1060
Unique-------6.0 grains-1008------6.3-1030------6.6-1070 fps
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165 Remington Golden Saber-----7.0 grains of Power Pistol --1030 fps
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155 Hornady XTP-HP
8.0 Power Pistol---1142 fps
7.6 Accurate Arms AA#5---1025 fps
Just some of the loads I've tested in my G23 and they all shot well. If I were going to pick a powder it would be either Win Super Field or Power Pistol. Use at your own risk and work up.

poor man
February 20, 2013, 09:19 PM
sure wish there was some pet loads in here for green dot (since i just bought a pound) LOL

gamestalker
February 20, 2013, 09:28 PM
THE FOLLOWING DATA IS CONSIDERED AT OR NEAR SAAMI MAXIMUM

My absolute favorite combination is a 155 gr. Gold Dot with 9.0 grs. of Longshot and a CCI-550 primer. I have also used the 500 primers, but I went back to 550's based solely on powder burn efficiency. I've actually found that this powder can be worked up to well above max. with no problems when fired from a fully supported chamber and if incrementally worked up. To add to this is HS6, also being run in the upper charge range, and as well, this powder cooperates very well when taken to, or even above max. published data.

As for published data for Gold Dots, it isn't all that easy to locate for Longshot. I got my data for the Gold Dots from Speer, after some persistence.

GS

bds
February 21, 2013, 01:54 AM
sure wish there was some pet loads in here for green dot
2004 Alliant load data has 40S&W loads for Green Dot.

For me, when I tested Green Dot during the last shortage, I found my 9/40/45 Green Dot loads comparable to mid-range W231/HP-38 loads but required .2 - .3 gr more powder.

But as always, conduct your own powder work up. ;)

Bovice
February 21, 2013, 02:31 AM
I shoot 165s and 180s.

165 FMJ FP, 6.1 gr. Universal, 1.130 OAL
180 Hornady XTP, 5.4 Universal, 1.125 OAL

The 180 load is a max in my Lee manual, but it is not in others. Chronograph says it's very close to 1000 FPS.

The 165 is a few tenths below max. Chronograph says it's in the 1000-1050 FPS range. All velocities taken at about 10' from a 4" barrel.

SDGlock23
February 21, 2013, 09:51 AM
For light loads, a 180gr with 3.8-4.4gr Titegroup does very well and is very accurate. 3.8gr is very soft, and 200gr with 3.5gr of Titegroup is also a sweet shooter with very low recoil. Okay one more, 4.5gr Titegroup with a 135gr is the same, super accurate and softer than a 9mm. WST works nice as well.

For more normal loads, 7.2gr Power Pistol will average 1065 fps from a 4" Glock 23 (180gr Gold Dot).

Do not use the following loads in a stock Glock barrel, work your way up. I use an aftermarket barrel and the following loads work well in my setup

For "warm" loads, 800x and Longshot work very well and are easily obtainable. It's not problem to get 1300 fps with a 180gr JHP using Longshot in a longer 6" barrel, and if you go 10% over (in a well supported 6" aftermarket barrel), 8.8gr will average 1400 fps...yes with a 180gr bullet...that's equal to a warm 10mm. In the same setup though, I don't go past 10% over with Longshot because I start to see signs of pressure.

My warm .40's, all from 6" barrel and all loads are no more than 10% over book and all loaded to 1.125" with 1x Federal brass and CCI SP primers:
135gr JHP @ 1850 fps (13.0gr...12.0gr is book max)
155gr JHP @ 1555 fps (11.0gr...10.0gr is book max)
165gr JHP @ 1485 fps (my own data, Hodgdon uses a long Sierra JHP, I use a shorter Speer Gold Dot. 9.0gr gave 1410 fps, 9.5gr gave 1485 fps)
180gr JHP @ 1400 fps (8.8gr load, but backed down to 8.5gr which gives almost 1350 fps and is more consistent)

800x does better with 200gr bullets, and from 6" KKM will shoot a 200gr XTP @ 1,250 fps.

Muddydogs
February 21, 2013, 10:13 AM
no one uses Unique or 180 hardballs?
Yep I do. Load 165 grain jacketed with Unique and 180 grain SWC with Unique. My mold is the Lee 401 175 SWC 6 hole but it throws 180 grain bullets. I use Unique in all my pistol loads.

Lj1941
February 21, 2013, 10:29 AM
155 Berrys RNHB
Fed/ATK brass
Win Small Pistol Primer
3.8 grains Clays/Clay Dot
Above load is good for IDPA PF,clean,accurate and economical.

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