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Triumph
January 13, 2013, 10:32 PM
I know I have terrible timing but I have always
wanted an M1 Garand. I have never acted
because I do not know enough about the different
grades & years.

Advice?

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crazy-mp
January 13, 2013, 10:47 PM
http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/m1garand.htm

Good place to start and the best place to get your first one from

Arp32
January 13, 2013, 10:52 PM
Check out the CMP's rifle sales website. I was in the same boat when I visited the Anniston store, and one of the old timers there asked me what I wanted it for. I told him I liked the history and would probably take it out to shoot 4-5 times a year. He helped me pick out a nice 1943 field grade Winchester with an early 50s barrel and I couldn't be happier. It was a tad over $700.

My logic was if I'm going to shoot it, I probably don't need a $3,000+ heirloom (which I couldn't afford anyway), and the rack grades were just a bit too beat up.

The field grade has a lot of life left in the barrel, and it's an extremely satisfying rifle to shoot. Gets big grins from new shooters, too.

mtlucas0311
January 13, 2013, 11:11 PM
It's not bad timing, Garands are still a little soft right now. Everybody is freaking out over AR's so there's that many people less that are trying to buy one. I agree that the CMP is the best place to buy, but they're really low on service grades right now and are back ordered with orders that came in over the Holiday break. Go here:

http://forums.thecmp.org/

And go down to "parts for sale or trade", then click on "Garand". You will find a steady flow of very nice rifles for sale. Guys buy them from the stores for a few parts they want or need to restore rifles they have and replace them with more common parts, then they sell that rifle (usually for a modest profit) and buy another one.

For somebody looking for their first Garand who lives to far from the North or South store to pick their own, it's a reliable way to get a solid rifle. You'll want a service grade rifle, with a muzzle wear reading of less than "2" and throat erosion or less than "3"; that'll be a nice rifle that should shoot well. They always post plenty of pictures and you don't have to worry about somebody selling you a rifle with faked cartouches, or a cut receiver (like are ALL OVER Gunbroker) from that forum, they would be called out on it immediately.

Mike.

offthepaper
January 13, 2013, 11:13 PM
CMP

cfullgraf
January 13, 2013, 11:32 PM
I know I have terrible timing but I have always
wanted an M1 Garand. I have never acted
because I do not know enough about the different
grades & years.

Is there something I could read to educate
me on the best one for me?

I also recommend the CMP. The requirements for purchase are fairly easy to meet these days. Check the CMP web site for the requirements.

If funds are limited, I recommend a Service Grade for a first Garand. The Field Grades tend to need some TLC.

The Service Grade Specials have excellent condition metal with new production stocks. The rifle has seen little or no use since manufactured.

The CMP Specials are essentially new Garands, or about as new as you can get these days. They have new production barrels and stocks and the rest of the rifle is refurbished. Great shooters.

The only downside is it takes a while to receive one unless you can go to either the North Store (Ohio) or the South Store (Anniston, AL). You can pick out your rifle and they will do the processing on the spot. You will need the same forms and requirements as a mail order so have all of it ready, except for filling out the actual order form, when you go. (for the club membership requirement, the Garand Collectors Association counts and I believe you can join at CMP if you go to the store. Verify that before you go though).

Hope this helps.

Ignition Override
January 14, 2013, 03:24 AM
Triumph:
My 'gun guru' retired from a military rifle team (set two records with an AR), and won over a dozen Garands as prizes.

Among other people, he told me that the CMP is the way to go, and sold me one from there.
Most people recommend a Service Grade, as you might realize by now.

Try to also save cash for ammo, as you probably won't find any M2 Ball elsewhere for a similar price.

Reloadron
January 14, 2013, 04:56 AM
Surprised that nobody has mentioned the CMP? :)

When the less than savvy buyer looks for a M1 Garand it becomes real easy to get a "pig in a poke" rifle. One of the real merits to the CMP program is not only help with decision making as to what to buy but service and support after the sale. If there is a problem with a rifle they are there for you backing up what they sold you. That brings the Garand shopper peace of mind. Also, short of finding an unusually good deal I doubt you will beat the price. Overall I doubt you will do better with a Garand than through the CMP.

Ron

greyling22
January 14, 2013, 08:02 AM
my cmp "service grade" came with metal in the 95% condition with a new birch stock. Muzzle and throat were a 1 and 2. or 2 and 1, I can't remember which. essentially new.


you might also take a look at collectors firearms there in houston. As I recall they had a fist full of garands every time I have been in. You'll pay and extra couple hundred bucks, but it might be worth it to you to look them over personally. they're pretty reputable.

Orlando
January 14, 2013, 08:28 AM
I would never mail order a Field Grade for your first rifle. Most of them are in need or a rebarrel and alot of TLC.
Order a Service Grade and you will get a good shooter

ApacheCoTodd
January 14, 2013, 09:08 AM
I think your timing's fine but jump soon before potential market shifts. CMP's your friend on this for sure.
CMP's firearms and ammo will never go down in price and some day will run out altogether.

aka108
January 14, 2013, 09:55 AM
Everyone seems to be jumping on the AR bandwagon right now. M1 Garands are getting the ho hum at the current time. Get one now if you really want one. We have no idea what the POTUS is going to do in the near future but whatever he does it will most likely be the king writing a exective order to his liking.

Fishbed77
January 14, 2013, 11:47 AM
I know I have terrible timing but I have always
wanted an M1 Garand.

Your timing is fine. As long as the CMP has Garands (and Orest has claimed that they have enough to continue mail orders for another 2 years or so), you're OK.

Get one now if you really want one. We have no idea what the POTUS is going to do in the near future but whatever he does it will most likely be the king writing a exective order to his liking.

It is my understanding that, by law, Garands that are property of the US Govenment can not be destroyed and must go to the CMP. An executive order by the president would have no legal ground to stand on and would be immediately tossed into limbo.

I will recommend a service grade rifle as well. Here is my $625 Service Grade Springfield Armory (1944 receiver, 1954 barrel, new CMP black walnut stock) that I received via mail order from the CMP last June:

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/Fishbed77/DSC_0128.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/Fishbed77/DSC_0122.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/Fishbed77/DSC_0050.jpg

vtail
January 14, 2013, 08:28 PM
I've been wanting a Garand for a long time and looks like now is the time to buy.

What is this Special Grade with the new barrel? Is that like a Service Grade but with a brand new barrel?

I'm a little afraid of getting something wore out. Or should I just take my chances with a Service Grade?

Last, I have tons of .308 ammo, and no .30-06. How should that weigh on my choice?

Thanks!

I don't live anywhere close where I could go and pick one out in purchase.

Orlando
January 14, 2013, 08:32 PM
You will not get a wore out rifle with a Standard Service Grade, they are very nice Garands
Get a SG and the money saved stock up on M2Ball ammo

Speedgoat
January 14, 2013, 09:19 PM
I read that the GCA I think is having their big meet this year in Cody WY. I was hoping to try and get off work for the 1st day or two of it and pick up a M1 or two. I'm getting all my club memberships and other requirements taken care of now so I've got pleanty of time to make sure I get all my paperwork in a row. The flyer I read says that the CMP has some sort of special sales staff that goes out to these? I like the idea of picking my rifle out but the trip back east is quite a ways to drive just to by a rifle or two. Anybody got recomendations Cody Meet vs Mail Order vs Making the Trip to CMP its'self?

vtail
January 14, 2013, 09:22 PM
Here are all the current Service Grades:

Which one should I go with?




RM1SAS

M1 Garand, SA (Springfield) Service Grade
Please allow 60-90 days for delivery
*See above for grade description


$625 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle



RM1HRAS

M1 Garand, HRA (Harrington & Richardson)
Service Grade
Please allow 30-60 days for delivery
*See above for grade description


$625 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle



RM1HRASSP

M1 Garand, Service Grade HRA (Harrington & Richardson) Special.
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
HRA collector grade metal in excellent almost new condition. Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original HRA manufacture.


$950 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle



RM1SASSP

M1 Garand, Service Grade Springfield Special.
allow 30-60 days for delivery.
SA collector grade metal in excellent almost new condition. Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original SA manufacture.


$950 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle

soloban
January 14, 2013, 09:30 PM
I'll throw in a vote for the ones from AIM Surplus as well when they have them in stock. They are refurbed by James River Armory. I bought one from them a few years back and it came with a new barrel, new stock, and all reparked metal. Believe this is completable to the CMP Service Grade Springfield Specials. I bought one from AIM and this is one gun I will NEVER NEVER NEVER sell.

NeuseRvrRat
January 14, 2013, 09:51 PM
i finally sent in my paperwork for a Springfield service grade last week

Welding Rod
January 14, 2013, 11:28 PM
Vtail - I would go with the last one on your list if you want to be sure you get an excellent gun. The late Springfield guns I have seen and owned were fantasic... some of the best built guns of any kind that I have seen. I own 2 now, only because I haven't been able to afford 3. The SASGSs I have seen appeared to be brand new guns for all practical purposes... looking like the only shooting they had done was test firing.

vtail
January 15, 2013, 12:23 AM
Welding Rod:

What does that mean where it says it is NOT original SA manufacture?

Does that mean the receiver is not vintage, but brand new?

For about the same price, I could get one of these:



RM1SPECIAL


M1 Garand, CMP Special (.30-06)
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. This is a completely refurbished rifle consisting of an original M1 Garand Springfield receiver, new production Criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture.


$995
S&H $24.95 per rifle




RM1308SPECIAL


M1 Garand, CMP Special (.308)
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. This is a completely refurbished rifle consisting of an original M1 Garand Springfield receiver, new production Criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture. A .308 spacer block is installed to prevent the loading of a .30-06 round into the chamber.


$995
S&H $24.95 per rifle




Would you still got with the original one you mentioned?

Triumph
January 15, 2013, 12:25 AM
Great information guys. Printed off my paperwork today. Joined the
Girand Collectors Association and hoping my Texas CHL will cover
Marksmanship requirement. I read on another thread that the Texas CHL
will cover as it has live fire testing.

I am excited to order my first Girand!!

Reloadron
January 15, 2013, 05:23 AM
When you see:

Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original HRA manufacture.

or

Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original SA manufacture.

What they are telling you is that the stocks are not HRA or Springfield Armory manufactured. That is also true for the associated stock hardware. I think among other they were using Boyds Stocks which are beautiful American Walnut and they place a little CMP cartouche on the stock. Take a look at Fishbed77's post #13. For a shooter it matters not who produced the lumber.

So what are some of you perspective Garand buyers considering?

Ron

Triumph
January 15, 2013, 08:19 AM
RM1SAS

M1 Garand, SA (Springfield) Service Grade
Please allow 60-90 days for delivery
*See above for grade description


$625 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle



RM1HRAS

M1 Garand, HRA (Harrington & Richardson)
Service Grade
Please allow 30-60 days for delivery
*See above for grade description


$625 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle



RM1HRASSP

M1 Garand, Service Grade HRA (Harrington & Richardson) Special.
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
HRA collector grade metal in excellent almost new condition. Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original HRA manufacture.


$950 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle


RM1SASSP

M1 Garand, Service Grade Springfield Special.
allow 30-60 days for delivery.
SA collector grade metal in excellent almost new condition. Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original SA manufacture.


$950 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle

Questions:
1. Did Fishbed77 receive the RM1SASSP ($950) or very close to it, when he ordered the RM1SAS ($625)? I have having a hard time distinguishing the difference. Please educate me.

2. RM1SPECIAL


M1 Garand, CMP Special (.30-06)
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. This is a completely refurbished rifle consisting of an original M1 Garand Springfield receiver, new production Criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture.


$995
S&H $24.95 per rifle




RM1308SPECIAL


M1 Garand, CMP Special (.308)
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. This is a completely refurbished rifle consisting of an original M1 Garand Springfield receiver, new production Criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture. A .308 spacer block is installed to prevent the loading of a .30-06 round into the chamber.


$995
S&H $24.95 per rifle

What about these two that vtail asked about? How do they compare?

By the way - I tried to join the CMP forum with the same handle. I can sign in but not post - still have not been approved by an Administrator.

greyling22
January 15, 2013, 09:55 AM
reloadron, when I was buying my replacement stock for my garand, I talked to and bought from dupage trading co. The guy there told me that he supplied stocks to cmp, not boyds. That my be irrelevent, it may be incorrect, but that's what he told me. Either way, it was a nice stock.

Triumph
January 15, 2013, 12:15 PM
Does anyone have any advice on the RM1308SPECIAL - The 308 Version?

I realize the 30-06 is the traditional round. Just curious.

Fishbed77
January 15, 2013, 12:26 PM
1. Did Fishbed77 receive the RM1SASSP ($950) or very close to it, when he ordered the RM1SAS ($625)? I have having a hard time distinguishing the difference. Please educate me.


No. I ordered a RM1SAS for $625 and that's exactly what I got, albeit one that was in as excellent a condition as I could have hoped for. Note the "G-3" on the armorer's tag that was included with my rifle - that's internal CMP code for Service Grade.

Some Service Grade rifles may come with USGI birch stocks, USGI walnut stocks, new CMP birch stocks, or new CMP walnut. Mine came with new CMP walnut (along with many others in the summer of 2012, though I'm not sure if it's as common now).

If you want something specific, it never hurts to ask. I attached a Post-it to my order form asking for a WW2 receiver and USGI walnut, and added a small donation to the CMP with my order (it never hurts to grease the wheels!). I received a 1944 receiver and beautiful new walnut. As you can imagine, I was very pleased! The photos I posted above are after I cleaned the cosmoline from the rifle and applied about 5 coats of pure tung oil to the stock.

Note that the CMP descriptions are the minimum condition for a rifle in that grade. It's a good chance a rifle received via mail order will be nicer than the minimum description. Expect the worst for that grade and quietly hope for better. You will not be dissapointed!

Triumph
January 15, 2013, 12:41 PM
Quote:
1. Did Fishbed77 receive the RM1SASSP ($950) or very close to it, when he ordered the RM1SAS ($625)? I have having a hard time distinguishing the difference. Please educate me.


Fishbed77 - do you see any advantages of the RM1SASSP over the one
you ordered?

Also, thanks for your idea as I also want a Walnut stock.

Triumph
January 15, 2013, 12:49 PM
Fishbed77 - Also, may be a silly question but you
wanted the WWII receiver for history sake?

Fishbed77
January 15, 2013, 03:15 PM
Fishbed77 - do you see any advantages of the RM1SASSP over the one
you ordered?


I can't say. I've never handled one of the CMP "RM1SASSP" rifles. The description says

"M1 Garand, Service Grade Springfield Special.
allow 30-60 days for delivery.
SA collector grade metal in excellent almost new condition. Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original SA manufacture."

It sounds like ordering an RM1SASSP rifle is a way of guaranteeing a new stock and an like-new parkerized finish on the steel. I will say the steel on my rifle looks extremely good - probably 97%+, and it is all Springfield. That said the finish isn't all perfectly matching - the parkerization of the reciver is the greenish color used on WWII rifles, while the park of the 1954 barrel is the dark grey color used later on.

Whether the steel on the RM1SASSP is newly refinished or not, or if the steel parts are all original to that rifle, I don't know. I suggest you browse the Garand forum at the CMP website. Those guys will be glad to answer any question you have.

http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Fishbed77 - Also, may be a silly question but you
wanted the WWII receiver for history sake?

I just prefered to have a WWII receiver for its history - some folks prefer those from the Korean War era for their history (and the fact that later rifles are more likely to incorporate all the small product improvements that came during the Garand's service life). I would have been happy with either. Some folks get real exicited about some of the rebuilds that show up from time-to-time (for example the "O-66" USMC rebuilds). There isn't a big value difference between the run-of-the-mill service grade rifles - they are all worth something to someone, and they all have their own history.

Reloadron
January 15, 2013, 06:14 PM
reloadron, when I was buying my replacement stock for my garand, I talked to and bought from dupage trading co. The guy there told me that he supplied stocks to cmp, not boyds. That my be irrelevent, it may be incorrect, but that's what he told me. Either way, it was a nice stock.
No, no, that is great and good to know. I wasn't real sure on that. Whenever I may post bad or suspect dope please do clue me in. All my dealings with CMP were many years ago under the old DCM program so I am far from current beyond what I see members posting.

Thanks
Ron

Litefoot
January 15, 2013, 11:25 PM
This is a great thread with lots of good information. Let me just reassure anyone purchasing a Service Grade that you're getting a good rifle. I even asked specifically for at least a 5XXXXXX (Korean era) Springfield M1 and that's exactly what I got. I did have a small issue with the rifle that could not have been detected without firing it. I called and got a replacement part within 3 days. I've had few gun transactions more exciting than having a M1 Garand delivered to my doorstep in a big brown truck.

Fishbed77
January 16, 2013, 09:49 AM
I did have a small issue with the rifle that could not have been detected without firing it. I called and got a replacement part within 3 days.

CMP cutomer service is the best there is, bar none.

On my CMP Garand, I noticed a small crack or indention on the inside face of the gas plug. The parkerization extended into the crack, meaning it was probably made that way almost 70 years ago and was just fine.

Nonetheless, I shot an e-mail to CMP customer service, received a reply the same day, and 2 days later a new gas plug arrived in the mail.

vtail
January 16, 2013, 01:38 PM
For my first M1, I would rather have a historical rifle as opposed to a pretty rifle, so I've decided to go with a Service Grade rifle.

But which one should I go with, the SA or the HRA? Which one would I be more likely to get a WWII era rifle if I requested that?

USSR
January 16, 2013, 01:52 PM
For my first M1, I would rather have a historical rifle as opposed to a pretty rifle, so I've decided to go with a Service Grade rifle.

But which one should I go with, the SA or the HRA? Which one would I be more likely to get a WWII era rifle if I requested that?


Since HRA did not make Garands during WWII, that eliminates the HRA.

Don

Triumph
January 16, 2013, 02:16 PM
[QUOTE][vtail For my first M1, I would rather have a historical rifle as opposed to a pretty rifle, so I've decided to go with a Service Grade rifle./QUOTE]

Only thing is you will probably get a new Walnut stock. As
I understand it Service Grade original USGI Walnut is gone.

vtail
January 16, 2013, 04:12 PM
[QUOTE][vtail For my first M1, I would rather have a historical rifle as opposed to a pretty rifle, so I've decided to go with a Service Grade rifle./QUOTE]

Only thing is you will probably get a new Walnut stock. As
I understand it Service Grade original USGI Walnut is gone.
Couldn't decide which way to go, so I went with one Service Grade SA and one Service Grade SA Special as I know I'll eventually get one of each anyway.

Now to try to find some ammo that will decent enough to reload. Any ideas?

Triumph
January 16, 2013, 04:22 PM
I don't reload - although I may start.

Sent you a PM

rondog
January 16, 2013, 04:24 PM
Buy one! And buy it soon! Before they're outlawed or the antis get the CMP shut down. Get ammo too, as much as you can.

Triumph
January 16, 2013, 04:45 PM
Vtail - check for PM

cfullgraf
January 16, 2013, 05:29 PM
Does anyone have any advice on the RM1308SPECIAL - The 308 Version?

I realize the 30-06 is the traditional round. Just curious.

I have the 308W Special but have not shot it yet. Looks like a Garand. I want to oil the stock before shooting it and have not gotten around to it.

I expect it to shoot as well as the 30-06 Special that I have.

To reiterate, the CMP Specials are refurbish/reparkerized Garands with new production barrels and Stocks. These could be any vintage but remember, the HRA are only post Korean war era.

The Service Grade Specials are essentially new, unused rifles with new production stocks. These are only post Korean war vintage.

The Service Grades are rifles in good condition as per the description but do show some use. They may have new production stocks on them. They could be any vintage but remember, HRA are only post Korean war era.

cfullgraf
January 16, 2013, 05:36 PM
vtail For my first M1, I would rather have a historical rifle as opposed to a pretty rifle, so I've decided to go with a Service Grade rifle.

Only thing is you will probably get a new Walnut stock. As
I understand it Service Grade original USGI Walnut is gone.

If you want a WWII era Springfield, request a serial number 3.5 million or less as opposed to requesting "a WWII rifle".

You still may not get one as the rifles are chosen by "the luck of the draw", but it is less thought for the folks picking your rifle from the stocks. There may be a WWII next in line to pick.

There is lots of differing opinions on whether "stickies" requesting certain features work or not. I have had good luck, but my one or two requests have been simple. I would have been pleased either way.

Triumph
January 16, 2013, 05:45 PM
Service Grade
-----
RM1SAS
M1 Garand, SA (Springfield) Service Grade
Please allow 60-90 days for delivery
*See above for grade description
$625 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle
-----
RM1HRAS
M1 Garand, HRA (Harrington & Richardson)
Service Grade
Please allow 60-90 days for delivery
*See above for grade description
$625 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle
-----
RM1HRASSP
M1 Garand, Service Grade HRA (Harrington & Richardson) Special.
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
HRA collector grade metal in excellent almost new condition. Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original HRA manufacture.
$950 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle
------
RM1SASSP
M1 Garand, Service Grade Springfield Special.
allow 30-60 days for delivery.
SA collector grade metal in excellent almost new condition. Walnut stocks and handguards and associated hardware are new manufacture. NOT original SA manufacture.
$950 Effective 1-3-2012
---------------------------------------

Special Grade M1 Garand

RM1SPECIAL

M1 Garand, CMP Special (.30-06)
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. This is a completely refurbished rifle consisting of an original M1 Garand Springfield receiver, new production Criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture.

$995
S&H $24.95 per rifle
---------
RM1308SPECIAL

M1 Garand, CMP Special (.308)
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.
M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. This is a completely refurbished rifle consisting of an original M1 Garand Springfield receiver, new production Criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture. A .308 spacer block is installed to prevent the loading of a .30-06 round into the chamber.

$995
S&H $24.95 per rifle

Unless I am missing something the H & R receivers
are designated by "HRA" in the order number. The others
(above) are all Springfjeld receivers.

Correct?

Reloadron
January 16, 2013, 07:48 PM
Triumph, that would be correct. If you order for example a Service Grade RM1HRAS rifle you will get a Harrington and Richardson receiver which will obviously be post WWII. However, there is also a small caveat in that:

Manufacturer selection only guarantees the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. The barrel and the other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers.

So what you have is an H&R receiver, all the remaining parts could be H&R, IHC, or SA.

For the most part this really matters not as most of these rifles are bought as shooters and that is what they do well.

Ron

Triumph
January 16, 2013, 08:02 PM
Got it - Thanks for clarifying.

My CMP paperwork is on the porch in a FedEx envelope waiting to be picked up.

Can't wait!!!

Reloadron
January 16, 2013, 08:08 PM
Got it - Thanks for clarifying.

My CMP paperwork is on the porch in a FedEx envelope waiting to be picked up.

Can't wait!!!
Enjoy your new rifle! :)

Ron

Triumph
January 16, 2013, 08:13 PM
Thanks - probably the full 90 days right
now. I'm sure they are busy.

vtail
January 16, 2013, 08:24 PM
[QUOTE=Triumph;8656186]

If you want a WWII era Springfield, request a serial number 3.5 million or less as opposed to requesting "a WWII rifle".

You still may not get one as the rifles are chosen by "the luck of the draw", but it is less thought for the folks picking your rifle from the stocks. There may be a WWII next in line to pick.

There is lots of differing opinions on whether "stickies" requesting certain features work or not. I have had good luck, but my one or two requests have been simple. I would have been pleased either way.
Thanks for the advice!

cfullgraf
January 16, 2013, 09:14 PM
Got it - Thanks for clarifying.

My CMP paperwork is on the porch in a FedEx envelope waiting to be picked up.

Can't wait!!!

Enjoy your rifle.

To add, most Garands have been through at least one arsenal overhaul, particularly WWII era rifles. That is the reason the parts, in general, are not correct for the date of the receiver, and for the statement about the other parts not necessarily matching the manufacturer of the receiver.

One of the games many Garand collectors do is scout around for parts made during the same period as their serial number and create a "correct" Garand from them.

Bruce Canfield's and Scott Duff's books on the Garand make for interesting reading and have lots of information on the different parts and revision numbers associated with the various design changes made throughout the life of the Garand.

cfullgraf
January 16, 2013, 09:22 PM
Unless I am missing something the H & R receivers
are designated by "HRA" in the order number. The others
(above) are all Springfjeld receivers.

Correct?

HRA = Harrington and Richardson.

Also, other Garand manufacturers

SA = Springfield Arsenal
WRA = Winchester Repeating Arms
IHC = International Harvester

Litefoot
January 17, 2013, 12:07 AM
Another thing to think about is that most of the rifles will have been rebuilt at one time at various arsenals around the country which would stamp the rifle with a unique cartouche. I discovered that there was such an arsenal in my home town of Augusta, GA. I would be neat to have such a rifle. I don't know where all the arsenals were located, but it might be something you could ask for.

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