Lead for Roundball?


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Rubicon1851
January 14, 2013, 07:53 PM
Have recently started accumulating/collecting salvaged 'lead-shield' anchors (for fastening something to concrete using a lag-screw/bolt) when I run across them at work. They seem pretty soft compared to wheel-weights. Anyone already try this lead source for casting roundballs? Thanks.

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Fryerpower
January 14, 2013, 07:57 PM
http://www.fasteningproducts.net/anchors.html

Die cast Zinc

72coupe
January 14, 2013, 07:59 PM
Don't melt any zinc in your pot or your molds. They screw up the mold and pot and apperently it is almost impossible to decontaminate.

Rubicon1851
January 14, 2013, 08:01 PM
Thanks.....

raa-7
January 14, 2013, 08:25 PM
I shoot alot of .22lr and we have a dirt berm behind the targets where I sift through to get them back and then make .454 round balls,recycling that lead.

the Black Spot
January 15, 2013, 09:51 AM
U can shoot zinc, just don't mix with lead. Just shoot it by itself. If mold is prepared right(smoking with match or candle) won't hurt anything. People have been checking out zinc for bullets since the 70's or earlier.
Not sure I would use for round ball, little harder than lead

loose noose
January 15, 2013, 12:07 PM
I got my lead from and old friend who is a dentist, after I got the lead apron from a radiology shield and brole it down I believe it was pure lead. Anyway I haven't had any problem with it in round balls going into my Pietta's 58's. get a nice little ring of lead after ramming the ball in the charge hole.;)

Loyalist Dave
January 16, 2013, 04:15 PM
Not sure I would use for round ball, little harder than lead

Might be a DIY option for folks in Ķalifoяиia where lead is banned due to condors, and in any other part of the country where they ban the metal.
LD

Jaymo
January 16, 2013, 09:23 PM
If it's softer than wheelweights, it's NOT die cast zinc.

Rattus58
January 17, 2013, 12:29 AM
I've been shooting roundballs for a number of years now and this is my perspective and opinion... It's hard to screw up a round ball, when made from pure lead, and hard lead just needs a little more care in fitting, since in my opinion, it doesn't expand to seal the bore, maybe ever. I use overpowder wads for all my shooting and with hard lead I'd insist on it.

Find a patch material that will compress enough to be tight with a slick lube like water soluable oil evaporated into cut patching and I think you could probably shoot ball bearings from your gun.... now I'm not recommending or anything... :D

Aloha... :cool:

loose noose
January 17, 2013, 12:40 PM
Aw Rattus58 now you're talking the water soluble oil patching is what I've been using for years, never had any problem with accuracy, or fouling, therefore cleaning is a breeze. Thought I was the only one that used that stuff.:D

Rattus58
January 17, 2013, 01:12 PM
Aw Rattus58 now you're talking the water soluble oil patching is what I've been using for years, never had any problem with accuracy, or fouling, therefore cleaning is a breeze. Thought I was the only one that used that stuff.:D
We're about the only ones too.... :D When I got into roundball shooting I saw an article by a gentleman by the name of "Dutch" Schultz talking about accuracy. I called him and talked to him for an hour and got as much information you could from someone who truly loves blackpowder shooting. He had a book that he sent me talking about accuracy and this idea of soluable oil by volume was one of his recipes... most all of my guns survive on a 7:1 to 8:1 formula whether 1-48 or 1-70. My volunteer on the other hand or my whites with twist of 1-16 to 1-20 like more slippery stuff if soluable... or crisco... :D

By the way... if you can stand the smell... in a pinch... ballistol works too.... "cough, cough"... for the truly desperate....

Much Aloha... :cool:

mykeal
January 17, 2013, 03:48 PM
Dutch Schoultz's Black Powder Rifle Accuracy System (http://www.blackpowderrifleaccuracy.com/)
Best $20 you'll ever spend on black powder shooting. Dutch is in his 80's and no longer shoots due to poor eyesight. Selling this system is his only income besides Social Security. And it's well worth every cent.

By the way, thousands of people have used his system and still use water soluble oil (machining oil, Ballistol, Butch's Bore Shine, etc.) as patch lube today.

Rattus58
January 17, 2013, 04:41 PM
Dutch Schoultz's Black Powder Rifle Accuracy System (http://www.blackpowderrifleaccuracy.com/)
Best $20 you'll ever spend on black powder shooting. Dutch is in his 80's and no longer shoots due to poor eyesight. Selling this system is his only income besides Social Security. And it's well worth every cent.

By the way, thousands of people have used his system and still use water soluble oil (machining oil, Ballistol, Butch's Bore Shine, etc.) as patch lube today.
Haha... the missuse here says you was just correcting my spellin in gentlemanly fashion.... :)

This man was very forthcoming, interesting to talk to, and of good humor.. I was fortunate enough to talk to Dan Quillan before he died as well... and well... you know... there is nothing quite like being able to touch history in some little way... :)

Aloha... :cool:

mykeal
January 17, 2013, 08:03 PM
Correcting spelling? Give the credit for that to my computer. I have no idea how to spell Dutch's last name. I just copied the link of his site.

Rattus58
January 17, 2013, 08:12 PM
Correcting spelling? Give the credit for that to my computer. I have no idea how to spell Dutch's last name. I just copied the link of his site.
Yeah.... thank you for that.... I didn't know he had site..

Aloha... :cool:

303tom
January 17, 2013, 09:32 PM
I have a buddy that has a salvage yard, I go out every so often & help take tires off wheels & I get the weights, just saying............

mykeal
January 18, 2013, 08:27 AM
I didn't know he had site..

The reason that text is underlined in my post is because it's a hyperlink to Dutch's site; just click on the text with the left mouse button and your browser will open a window on his site.

loose noose
January 19, 2013, 12:06 PM
I've used Dutch's recipe using pure lead in my Muzzle Loaders, flintlock and percussion rifles. I also got the pamphlet, from Dutch, I believe it cost $20.00, and at that time his eyesight was just starting to fail him along with the letter to that affect. I've got several rifles that use the 7-1, and a few that use the 5-1 for the best accuracy, using .012 pillow ticking. Sure am glad to hear I'm not the only one using that. However I heard he passed from this earth about 2 years ago, hopefully I heard wrong really a nice guy.

Rattus58
January 19, 2013, 01:57 PM
I've used Dutch's recipe using pure lead in my Muzzle Loaders, flintlock and percussion rifles. I also got the pamphlet, from Dutch, I believe it cost $20.00, and at that time his eyesight was just starting to fail him along with the letter to that affect. I've got several rifles that use the 7-1, and a few that use the 5-1 for the best accuracy, using .012 pillow ticking. Sure am glad to hear I'm not the only one using that. However I heard he passed from this earth about 2 years ago, hopefully I heard wrong really a nice guy.
He passed away you think?? Contributed immensely to my understanding of accuracy he did and the vagaries of a muzzleloader.... Sorry to hear that if true.

Much Aloha... :cool:

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