[regniflow]

Any chance the Classicballistx ROA cylinders are made from 4130 steel and then sleeved in 416 ss ? There seems to be a great deal of uncertainty as to just what materials the non-Ruger cylinders are made from. My 2008 stainless seems equal to or slightly more magnetic than my 1973 blue steel.

[AbitNutz]

I don't think so. My Classicballistx cylinder has 416 stamped on it.

[mykeal]

My 2008 stainless seems equal to or slightly more magnetic than my 1973 blue steel.
Is that a problem?

[Patocazador]

Is Kirst still handling these cylinders? I e-mailed them for a quote as a THR Ruger Old Army club member but received no response yet.

[regniflow]

I did also, but like you no response. What we need is someone to clone the Ruger cylinders for us. Or find some machinist working for Pietta, who would be interested in moon lighting. Because of strange labor laws there are many small shops that do work for the larger firms in Italy. After your staff reaches a critical number, you must offer life time employment. I do consulting work for a firm that has a lot of French and Italian machines. This requires numerous trips to the USA concerning warranty issues. I will check with the foreigner to see if they have any good ideas.

[MCgunner]

I'd be up for a couple of spares for the Ruger if they could be had for a reasonable price. Piettas are 60 bucks and I still wait on Cabelas to put 'em on sale. ROFL!

[AbitNutz]

I've never been able to get a response from Kirst when emailed. But they do answer the phone when you call...

[Rojelio]

MCgunner, cabelas has their spare cylinders on sale right now for 49.99.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Black-Powder/Black-Powder-Accessories%7C/pc/104792580/c/104701680/sc/104218380/Pietta-1860-Army-44-Caliber-Revolver-Spare-Cylinder/705485.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-black-powder-black-powder-accessories%2F_%2FN-1100207%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104218380%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104792580%253Bcat104701680&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104701680%3Bcat104218380
Also for the 1858 and 1851, too.

[classicballistx]

To make it perfectly clear, Classicballistx and Kirst are affiliated in development, but we don't sell each others' stuff.

Classicballistx blue cylinders are machined from certified PHT 4130. Our stainless cylinders are machined from certified 416 stainless.

Our friends in Gardone VT have yet to come up with a way to make what we sell at a cost that beats what we pay for stateside sourcing of steel, certification, machine work, and warranty terms. They're friends and really good fellows and their parts make up what you know as Uberti, Pietta, and Pedersoli guns. If you understand the differences between what goes into a replica gun and what goes into, say, the guns Feinwerkbau and others sell for international blackpowder match competition, you will quite understand the why of this. What we do with the ROA, we do to that match standard, not that of replica guns.

If you want additional cylinders for your ROA, please look at the posts in the ROA Club (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=8744093#post8744093). We sell them directly (http://classicballistx.com/Spring2012offer.html).

A bit more - we guarantee fit in your ROA or your money back. And we can fit most ROA's - 95% or so. Our cylinders are stronger than the OEM, have greater capacity, and higher precision than Ruger's. And you don't send us your gun to get one - or more. At the worst, having your next six shots no further away than switching cylinders is a pretty happy situation.

Best regards all,

Wisent
Classicballistx (http://classicballistx.com/)

[Lunie]

Since I don't think anyone mentioned this...

416 is a martensitic grade of stainless steel, and is magnetic.

Non-magnetic stainless steels are austenitic. Generally denoted by the SAE 2XX and 3XX series designation. SAE 304 and 316 are two common types that come to mind.

In other words: "Not all stainless steel is non-magnetic."

[Patocazador]

I measured the diameters of the chambers in my new ClassicBallistx cylnder and they are all the same =.452. I did the same with my OE Ruger cylinder and they vary by .0005-.001 to each other.
The ClassicBallistx cylinder was a "drop-in" with no problems with rotation nor clearance.
If my cylinder is 'the standard', I highly recommend them.

[AbitNutz]

I agree. The last Classicballistx cylinder I got was dead on in every dimension and dropped in. Even small details were replicated. The base pin bearing area at the front of the cylinder has a machined groove around it...the ROA has it and so did the Classicballistx.

I put an oversize cylinder latch/stop in...for no apparent reason. It locks up solid with either ROA or Classicballistx.

[faustopph]

How much more powder can be loaded into the Classicsballistx cylinder? I wish they had that info on the website,maybe I missed it.

[robhof]

How much more powder depends on the powder, but generally I get 5 additional grains of FFF Goex in my CBX cylinders than the ROA factory ones.

[faustopph]

robhof, thanks. I was hoping to hear that it would be as much.