Gun Bill Alert, FL


January 15, 2013, 01:42 PM
Subject: Gun Bill Alert

Bill please forward immediately this message from John Hallman!!!!

David, two bills have been filed in the House, HB123 deals with "Stand Your Ground" and HB97 deals with concealed weapons and prohibition of having a CW in government sposnored public land and events. Both are sponsored by Democrats and right now do not have a Senate sponsor, but they will eventually be filed in the Senate.


HB 123 - Use of Deadly Force
General Bill by Stafford
Use of Deadly Force: Requires overt act to support belief that use of deadly force for specified purposes is necessary; defines "unlawful activity" for specified purposes; provides that immunity from civil & criminal liability for certain uses of deadly force does not apply to injuries to children & bystanders not affiliated with overt act.
Effective Date: July 1, 2013
Last Event: Filed on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 6:18 PM

Read the entire bill:

HB 97 - Concealed Weapons and Firearms
General Bill by Powell (CO-SPONSORS) Schwartz
Concealed Weapons and Firearms: Creates exception to preemption of regulation of firearms to Legislature to allow state agency or local government to prohibit possession of concealed firearms & ammunition at specified publicly sanctioned or sponsored events conducted in public buildings or at government-sponsored outdoor public venues.
Effective Date: July 1, 2013
Last Event: Filed on Monday, January 07, 2013 9:20 AM

read the entire bill:

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January 15, 2013, 08:16 PM
We have to shut this down. The key issue is "Overt Act." That will cause all kinds of litigation over what qualifies as an "Overt Act." If someone breaks into your house at three in the morning and you shoot them in reaction, you won't have immunity under SYG. Because the party hadn't had a chance to commit an Overt Act. Anybody who breaks into my house will always have committed an Overt Act, there is a decorational sword that hangs near the front door that anyone could just grab and anyone who would break into my house would certainly grab that sword upon breaking in.

January 15, 2013, 08:54 PM
I'll take my chances with the jury when they break in and I am simply defending my wife and two small children. If they come up the stairs, it's over. You can steal anything you want downstairs, once you place one foot one one step, all bets are off.

January 15, 2013, 08:56 PM
Magnum - good plan. Wield the sword against against my HK USC any day...

January 15, 2013, 10:00 PM
Nooo! I thought we were safe from this nonsense. To the telephone!

January 15, 2013, 10:26 PM
Stand Your Ground extends the Castle Doctrine outside your house. Modification to stand your ground does not effect Castle Doctrine so shooting an intruder in your home would never be an issue.

Honestly, SYG as its written needs to be cleaned up, there's too much ambiguity in the current legislation. However,this bill IS not the cleaning up that's needed, it's a knee jerk reaction to some high profile events.

Buck Kramer
January 16, 2013, 04:14 PM
Hang onto it FL, call your reps. In IA you have to retreat unless it would cause you more harm and the threat to life must be in IMMEDIATE, not imminent danger. Our laws blow, so do what you can to hang onto yours.

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