Ammo restriction


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SpringfieldM1A
January 16, 2013, 12:35 PM
Just got an email from midway stating that my back order of 204 bullets were canceled due to the new law in ny. So, am I forced to go through the local gun shop for reloading components? Do I say farewell to my days of loading many pistol rounds and stocking up on bullets and primers for target shooting? This may be somewhat of a rant but I'm curious as to what other people plan on doing in ny?

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kwguy
January 16, 2013, 12:38 PM
Did that new legislation also affect BULLETS and AMMO?!

BullfrogKen
January 16, 2013, 12:42 PM
Wow.

Fishslayer
January 16, 2013, 01:37 PM
Did that new legislation also affect BULLETS and AMMO?!

The terms are interchangable to the people who wrote the law.:banghead:

And maybe people who write Midway's sales policies?:what:

I envision midnight runs down country backroads in souped up cars with heavy suspension to handle the loads of contraband lumps of lead...:rolleyes:

LubeckTech
January 16, 2013, 02:54 PM
Have you asked exactly why??
It is possible Midway will no longer sell any kind of reloading components to NY or maybe won't sell anything at all in NY due to possible legal repercusions.

The new bans internet sales of ammo in NY correct??

ssyoumans
January 16, 2013, 03:07 PM
Does midway ship to PO Boxes, might be time to open one in another state? or is that illegal by the mighty Dictator, Cuomo too?

Or ship to a fedex location in another state and make a semi-annual massive purchase... man, that blows.

pseudonymity
January 16, 2013, 03:10 PM
Tell them unless they bother to read the legislation, you will take your business somewhere else. The ammo restrictions are in Section 50 of the new legislation, and from the text of S2230:

The amendments to sections 400.02 and 400.03 of the penal law made by sections forty-nine and fifty of this act shall take effect one year after it shall have become a law

No ammo checks are required for a year.

SpringfieldM1A
January 16, 2013, 06:46 PM
pseudonymity thanks for the reply, ill give them a call tomorrow during lunch. living in the sticks makes it somewhat difficult to find reloading components. if i cant order any components i may have to pick up a new hobby. maybe writing letters every day to cuomo explaining the various ways he has made my life difficult.

Fishslayer
January 16, 2013, 08:13 PM
if i cant order any components i may have to pick up a new hobby.

One of the things that kinda struck me about the northeast was how small the states were & how quickly one could drive through multiple states.

Just sayin'... ;)

jonnyc
January 17, 2013, 08:26 AM
Unfortunately, much of NY is bordered by NJ and CT, with MA just a skip away. At least those on the PA border have an option.

Lex Luthier
January 17, 2013, 08:37 AM
The management of all our favorite suppliers have been up all night freaking out. Their government is now taking action to infringe upon their right to do legal business, and like most people/ organizations, will probably overreact a little. We ALL got suckered by Obama.

Imagine when this happens to bread, milk and bleach. We all need to start praying my brothers.

ku4hx
January 17, 2013, 09:04 AM
With a $15 hotplate, a $10 pot and a $20 mold you can get into bullet casting. There are other aspects but $45 (or less) can get you started. Problem is, the alloy (and its components) is drying up too coincident with new lead laws. But at the moment range berms are loaded with the right stuff. At least mine is since my club has all ranges outdoors.

goldie
January 17, 2013, 07:43 PM
We in N.Y. who order on line now really have to do more conservative shooting,depending on caliber. 30-06 at sports authority,kmart or a gun store isnt too much more than on line,bulk packs of 22lr are ok too if they are ever back in stock. cci std target ammo,bulk 223 ,7.62x39 308,is where you will have trouble if you cant get it online.the only other way is to order it to a relatives or friends house in a closer state & like said above,1 or 2 big orders a year ,but is this what its come to in N.Y. ?ive been ordering ammo online for 30 years,this is a change i dont want to make...

SpringfieldM1A
January 19, 2013, 10:28 AM
first, i apologize for the delayed response from when i first started this thread. i have gone through each response and appreciate the responses from the other members.

I havent been able to get through to midway customer service lately. probably due to the high amount of backorders. i did send them an email and do not expect to hear back from them. this is the response from midway...



Thanks for your email; this response has very important information, so please read it carefully.



We are sorry, but unprecedented demand has temporarily raised our incoming email volume to the level at which it is no longer possible to provide a personal response to each email.



We have taken the following action, until further notice: If your email is about a backorder or the inventory status/availability of a product, we will not be responding and suggest you log into your account to verify your current backorders. If you want to know inventory status or availability of any product, please refer to the specific product on our website – the information on the website is based on information from our vendors and is the most current and accurate information we have!



We are receiving merchandise every day and shipping it out immediately to our Customers, but we don’t have a sense that demand will return to normal anytime soon.



What you can be sure of is that everything we receive from our vendors goes directly to our Customers and at the price in effect at the time of the backorder – except of course if a vendor substantially raises the price, which none have.



Our average Customer Service response time is running approximately 4 business days. Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding and we will respond to your email as quickly as possible.



We appreciate your understanding and your business. We always put Customer Satisfaction first and believe this action is in the very best interest of our Customers.



Sincerely,



Larry Potterfield

Founder and CEO



from what i understand from talking with a gunsmith, companies are haulting all orders that could be affected from this new law. They are having there lawyers look over this new law to figure out what they can and cannot send to NYS. Internet ammo sales have haulted, there is currently no system in place to register ammo or do a background check when purchasing ammo. The system will be through the state and not the ATF.

I seems to me, and this is my opinion, that this new law will monitor and limit the amount of ammo we can now purchase. They should be able to decline your purchase through the gunsmith if you should reach your limit.

I will continue to purchase the reloading components i normally go through one way or another. with the thousands of dollars i have invested into this hobby over the years theres no way i can just abondon it.

LubeckTech
January 19, 2013, 08:21 PM
Nor should you abandon what is to many of us is more than a hobby but a passion and a way of life!! Moving is also not an option - I like to think I would move if the situation in my state were that drastic but in reality it would not happen. Were I in your position (and we all may be there soon) I would explore what legal avenues I have and read and understand the law completely. If you could do it legally, an out of state with some friends trip from time to time to get supplies be a possibility. Find a state specific forum where you can find out what others in your position are doing - thy Firearmstalk.com who wha state forums. Also contact the Second Ammendment Foundation along with your state's concealed carry orgainization both of whom should have some information about the status of the parts of the law as it pertains to what parts will be challenged in court AND do what you can to help. There WILL be legal challenges!! Most of all PLEASE don't give up this is not about just a hobby but it is about preserving AMERICA as we know it.

hso
January 19, 2013, 08:27 PM
Try Wideners.

c1ogden
January 19, 2013, 09:20 PM
"Tell them unless they bother to read the legislation, you will take your business somewhere else."

I don't think that's fair. The company can't keep up with every unConstitutional law in every state, county and city all across the country. It looks to me like they are just trying to stay out of jail.

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