XDs 9mm is here


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CPshooter
January 16, 2013, 02:04 PM
For those of you that hadn't heard, the 9mm XDs was announced at SHOT this week.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/springfield-armory-xd-s-9mm-media-day-at-the-range-shot-2013/

I just bought a Walther PPS in 9mm, so I probably won't be getting the XDs myself, but having more options to choose from is always a great thing!

The only complaint I have with the XDs is the grip texture. More specifically, the edges on the thumb shelf/scallop are sharp and do not feel too good. My PPS, OTOH, feels great in my hand, grip texture and all. I'd be very interested to see a size comparison between the PPS and XDs, actually.

Anyhow, just wanted to share the news! Happy shooting!

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bodam
January 16, 2013, 02:27 PM
Gonna be interested in one of these for sure

bigfatdave
January 16, 2013, 02:56 PM
I have a PPS(9) and an XD(S) in .45acp

I like grip safeties, I'll probably pick up an XD(S) in 9x19 eventually, just because.

C0untZer0
January 16, 2013, 05:57 PM
It's coming in heavier than the Rohrbaugh or the Kahr CM9/PM9

Skribs
January 16, 2013, 06:15 PM
What are the dimensions on it?

jon86
January 16, 2013, 06:20 PM
subbed

CPshooter
January 16, 2013, 06:28 PM
What are the dimensions on it?
Exact same as the .45acp model from what I've read.

bigfatdave
January 17, 2013, 10:04 AM
What are the dimensions on it?
Exact same as the .45acp model from what I've read.
Makes sense, as the holster with an XD(S)45 is stamped as compatible with 45/9/40

Orion8472
January 17, 2013, 11:19 AM
I am going to put one of these on order at my LGS. Been looking for it to come out for a while now.

wriggly
January 17, 2013, 02:25 PM
I own both an XDs and a Kahr PM9, and if the new 9mm XDs is the same size as the 45 acp version, go with the Kahr, it is quite a bit smaller.

Orion8472
January 17, 2013, 03:22 PM
Thanks for the advice, but I don't care for the Kahr trigger, . . . and like having the grip safety.

CPshooter
January 17, 2013, 04:04 PM
Shootability is also a HUGE concern for me. The PM9 just doesn't fill my hand enough to stay put while shooting. The slightly longer (from front to back) grip of the XDs or PPS w/ large backstrap makes for a much better shooting experience. If Kahr wants to stay in the game, they need to do three things:

#1 improve quality control
#2 improve quality control
#3 offer interchangeable backstraps

bigfatdave
January 17, 2013, 04:11 PM
The grip safety is the big seller for me on the XD(S) concept

StrikeFire83
January 17, 2013, 10:29 PM
Springfield really missed an opportunity when it comes to this one...IN MY OPINION. Instead of a Kahr PM9 sized gun with an XD trigger, we get a fatter S&W Shield-sized gun with an XD trigger. And the 9mm weighs MORE than the 45. This just seems lazy to me.

Oh well, the Shield is selling like hotcakes and this probably will to. Not the gun I want, but I'm sure there will be plenty of takers.

iblong
January 18, 2013, 07:11 AM
In the past I've not been a huge fan of the XD series In plastic I prefer the Glock,But after buying the XDS I would be interested in the 9 version.I dont mind the extra weight.I do wish they had a +1 mag extention though,The 7 rounders make the grip quite large.With the 7 its longer than my 19.A pierce
type +1 it would fit (my)hand perfect and still conceal well.I do like the grip safety as I shoot a lot of 1911 and it makes re holstering a bit safer than my Glocks.I do however prefer the Glock trigger over the XDS,Trigger kits anyone?

Russ Jackson
January 18, 2013, 08:25 AM
While I like it I would go with the 45 cal.

460Kodiak
January 18, 2013, 10:17 AM
I shoot .45 well. That's why I got the XDs, as well as the grip fitting my hand. I think I'll skip the 9mm version since the .45 works for me. If I were a 9mm shooter, I'd have bought that one. The Kahrs are nice, but don't quite fit my hand right. Same for Ruger LC9. I'm a bigger dude. If you are too and are looking for a small carry gun, the XDs works well.

I love the .45 cartridge too. There is just something fun about walking around with a .45 that is so small. Practical as hell for me. I like extremes in my guns.

Havok7416
January 18, 2013, 01:27 PM
In the past I've not been a huge fan of the XD series In plastic I prefer the Glock,But after buying the XDS I would be interested in the 9 version.I dont mind the extra weight.I do wish they had a +1 mag extention though,The 7 rounders make the grip quite large.With the 7 its longer than my 19.A pierce
type +1 it would fit (my)hand perfect and still conceal well.I do like the grip safety as I shoot a lot of 1911 and it makes re holstering a bit safer than my Glocks.I do however prefer the Glock trigger over the XDS,Trigger kits anyone?
They said they have a 7-round and a 9-round magazine for the pistol.

Skribs
January 18, 2013, 01:40 PM
The thing I like about the XDs is it is one of the few single-stack pistols I've seen that has the same MOA as the double-stack version (the other being Glock). The Shield, for example, eschews the ambi slide stop, reversible magazine catch, and the no-manual-safety option of the M&P series.

However, I personally have no need for a single-stack pistol of this size, so it is not on my list.

JERRY
January 18, 2013, 01:59 PM
they seem to make good guns but this seems like a gun made for those who want a pocket 9 without getting a true pocket 9.

im sure theyll sell a lot, some folks cant handle the .45acp in the same package so this is the ticket to keep those folks around.

BamAlmighty
January 18, 2013, 02:22 PM
For me it is going to come down to whichever one I can find first... XDs or Shield.

CPshooter
January 18, 2013, 03:07 PM
they seem to make good guns but this seems like a gun made for those who want a pocket 9 without getting a true pocket 9.

im sure theyll sell a lot, some folks cant handle the .45acp in the same package so this is the ticket to keep those folks around.
This is where I think most people are mistaken. IMHO all the guns we're talking about here are better suited for IWB concealed carry and not pocket carry. For true pocket carry, even the PM9 is too large for me. An extra quarter inch of length or a couple of extra ounces isn't going to be a deal breaker when carried IWB w/ a proper holster and gun belt. All that matters is that the gun is THIN, which all of the guns being discussed here are. They are all right around .90" thick from top to bottom if you ignore control lever thickness. Basically, what I'm saying is that a PM9 and a XDs are going to carry exactly the same when carried IWB. Pocket carry is a different story and I can understand wanting the absolute smallest gun out there, but again, I don't think these guns are intended for pocket carry. Pistols like the Ruger LCP, R9, etc would make for a better pocket gun.

jon86
January 18, 2013, 04:58 PM
So, which one should I get? I can't afford both...

seriously...

9mm vs 45acp

... and go.

Havok7416
January 18, 2013, 05:03 PM
I would go for the 9mm if it was me because it holds a few more rounds and will likely kick a little less. I have handled the .45 version and it seems like recoil would be substantial in a package that small. Just my opinion though and others are certainly entitled to theirs.

hesitantly
January 19, 2013, 12:58 AM
I looked at the XDs and the P938 for a new carry. I got the Sig because it is smaller, and 9mm cost less to play with than .45 does. Already have a couple of .45 anyway. If the XDs 9mm had been out, I'm not sure what I would have chosen. :confused:

PabloJ
January 19, 2013, 01:46 AM
It appears to be .45 version with 9mm barrel.:rolleyes:

KTXdm9
January 19, 2013, 09:13 AM
I looked at the XDs and the P938 for a new carry. I got the Sig because it is smaller, and 9mm cost less to play with than .45 does. Already have a couple of .45 anyway. If the XDs 9mm had been out, I'm not sure what I would have chosen. :confused:
How do you like your Sig? I've been considering that for my next carry piece.

wriggly
January 19, 2013, 10:40 AM
This is where I think most people are mistaken. IMHO all the guns we're talking about here are better suited for IWB concealed carry and not pocket carry. For true pocket carry, even the PM9 is too large for me. An extra quarter inch of length or a couple of extra ounces isn't going to be a deal breaker when carried IWB w/ a proper holster and gun belt. All that matters is that the gun is THIN, which all of the guns being discussed here are. They are all right around .90" thick from top to bottom if you ignore control lever thickness. Basically, what I'm saying is that a PM9 and a XDs are going to carry exactly the same when carried IWB. Pocket carry is a different story and I can understand wanting the absolute smallest gun out there, but again, I don't think these guns are intended for pocket carry. Pistols like the Ruger LCP, R9, etc would make for a better pocket gun.

I own an XDs, a PM9 and an LCP, and I have carried them all in my pocket. Naturally the Ruger carries the best, but the Kahr is almost as comfortable. The XDs not so much. XDs is no pocket gun, and outside of being a 45 it is less than remarkable. In a single stack 9, there are many more solutions that I would prefer over an XDs, Kahr just being one of them. HK P7 being another.

As for Kahr triggers, anyone that would take issue with them has not had enough experience. Kahr has one of the best triggers available. So does the LCP and for the same reason, they are safe, without superflous safeties.

As for the grip on the Kahr PM9, yes it is small, but it is a small gun, as it was intended to be. Put a Talon rubber grip on it, and it becomes a whole other gun. Ever seen Hickock45 on YT? He has very large hands, and smallish grips are no problem for him because he uses Talon grips. There are myriad solutions to aid with the various compromises with the different handguns available. Exploring them and coming to grips with solutions that allow your personal system to work are all that matters to "You".

hesitantly
January 19, 2013, 10:17 PM
How do you like your Sig? I've been considering that for my next carry piece.
Well, I love it, but I have to qualify that statement with the fact that I haven't fired it yet. I hope I still love it later. But, as for size, and aesthetics, it's fantastic - just what I was looking for. Several problems have been reported with it, but the guys with problems are the only ones you ever hear from.

C0untZer0
January 19, 2013, 10:57 PM
I think it's great - it offers features that some people like.

IMO - it's not a pocket pistol, and neither is the Nano, the Sheild, or the Glock 26.

s9601694
February 7, 2013, 11:42 AM
A pretty good comparison of the XDs and CM9:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7_i8ytYBIo

1858
February 7, 2013, 01:00 PM
It appears to be .45 version with 9mm barrel.

Perfect!! It'll fit any holster I buy for the XD-S (.45 Auto) that I have on order ... and it would give me a 7+1 or 9+1 option.

Mainsail
February 7, 2013, 04:56 PM
I carry my XDs in .45 a lot now. I carry it with the flush fitting magazine in the gun and two 7-rounders on the side. They're almost the same size as a 1911 magazine, so all your leather mag holsters will work, kydex and plastic not so much.

The .45ACP kicks a bit, but isn't bad. Remember, it isn't meant to be a range gun so it might not be comfortable for extended shooting sessions. For its designed purpose, self defense, it kicks just enough. :D

http://www.topohiker.com/news/newspics/Shoot/Grip.png

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