New from Glock the 30s


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horsemen61
January 16, 2013, 04:59 PM
So remember how we heard a rumor that glock was making something new well that rumor is true at shot show glock introduced the 30s

Today GLOCK, Inc. announced a new addition to its pistol lineup - the GLOCK 30S. The conceal-and-carry hybrid pistol features impressive stopping power consisting of a factory-made 36 slide on top of a 30SF frame. Its compact design and simple operation allow smooth drawing in a .45 caliber pistol. The 30S packs 10 rounds of .45 ACP in a package that fits the hands of most any user. The G30S is easy to use, easy to conceal and tough to contend with.

“The G30S platform has been more than a year in the making,” explained Josh Dorsey, GLOCK Vice President. “Our original request from the field - particularly from law enforcement - was to have a more concealable .45 that still carries 10 rounds, so we utilized the G30 SF frame after it was thoroughly tested, presented and accepted as the desired frame for the G30S.”

The full details of the new model are outlined below:
• Dimensions
1. Length (overall): 177 mm / 6.97 inch
2. Length (slide cpl.): 172 mm / 6.77 inch
3. Width: 32.5 mm / 1.28 inch
4. Height with magazine: 122 mm / 4.80 inch
5. Barrel length: 96 mm / 3.78 inch
6. Length of twist: 400 mm / 15.75 inch
7. Trigger distance: 72.5 mm / 2.85 inch
8. Trigger travel to discharge: 12.5 mm / 0.49 inch
9. Length between sights (polymer): 150 mm / 5.91 inch
• Weight
1. Pistol w/o magazine: 575 g / 20.28 oz
2. Magazine std. empty: 70 g / 2.47 oz
3. Magazine std. full (depending on ammo used): 280 g / 9.88 oz
• Magazine capacity (rounds): 10
• Barrel profile: right hand twist; octagonal
• Standard Trigger pull: ~5.5lbs
• Muzzle velocity V0**: 787 fps
• Muzzle energy E0**: 317 ft lb
**depending on ammunition used


What do you all think?

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Skribs
January 16, 2013, 05:51 PM
I think I have dyslexia. I had to reread the title 3 times to get the sentence to not be interpreted by my eyes as "New Glock from the 30s". I was like "Glock wasn't around in the 30s...wait, that can't be right."

I think it's not much new to the lineup compared to what people were suggesting: single-stack 9 or a duty pistol in a new caliber (7.62 tok, 5.7, etc).

Elkins45
January 16, 2013, 06:20 PM
So here's my question: who picked up a 30 and said, "Wow this would be great if only the slide were thinner?"

I'm not really sure what unmet need this fills.

Dan-O
January 16, 2013, 07:06 PM
It's nothing new. I've had a "30s" for years.

2wheels
January 17, 2013, 11:31 AM
It's cute, you see loads of requests on countless threads from Glockophiles for new Glock products...

I don't recall a single one being "please please PLEASE Gaston put a slightly thinner slide on a gun you already make!".

Good work driving Glock fans crazy though!

Sapper771
January 17, 2013, 11:55 AM
I have not been very impressed with Glock recently. Gen4 was a bit of a let down. Then all the issues arose. Then they had no idea how to fix it. Then the "experimental" parts.

With their ability to manufacture Glocks on US soil now, I figured we would start seeing some new stuff. This Glock 30S business has me thinking otherwise. Makes me think they had to think of something cheap and easy to throw at its consumers after the big disappointment over the online community not being a new model.


Regardless.......I still carry my G19 everyday. I love the pistol, just starting to question the intelligence of whoever is at the helm of the company. Especially if it took them a year to figure out that a G36 slide will fit on a G30 frame.

hardluk1
January 17, 2013, 01:19 PM
Another let down from glock

tarosean
January 17, 2013, 02:52 PM
What do you all think?

Glock ran out of ideas a long time ago

Diamondback6
January 17, 2013, 03:14 PM
Not quite, Tarosean--they haven't done a Tenifer-process polymer-frame 1911 yet. LOL

tarosean
January 17, 2013, 03:23 PM
Not quite, Tarosean--they haven't done a Tenifer-process polymer-frame 1911 yet. LOL


Of course not that would require invention, instead of raiding the parts bins.

Teachu2
January 17, 2013, 03:37 PM
There are several members here who have made their own 30S, using a 36 slide on a 30. Some recommended that to me.

When you are half a million guns behind orders, why introduce new ones?

chris in va
January 17, 2013, 06:47 PM
I probably would have bought that over the 21sf I had.

eldon519
January 18, 2013, 04:30 PM
I've been wanting a 30SF and will probably buy a 30S instead now that this has hit the market. It isn't a game changer that would make me sell my 30 if I already had one, but I do think it is a nice evolution of a product. Really no reason to keep a firearm in a bulkier-than-necessary format if you've got low-hanging fruit like the 36 slide around to improve it with. The only complaint about the 30 I have ever read was that it was "brick like", so while it doesn't address the frame, it does help slim the package and shave a few ounces.

MyRoad
January 18, 2013, 11:50 PM
I had a G36 years ago, and it was never reliable for me -- I've heard other owners with similar complaints. I have a G30 that has never had any type of failure, and that is a common experience with them (i.e. from following threads on GlockTalk years ago).

I'm still curious what made the 36's less reliable than the 30's, and if that problem will carry over to this new model. Some people felt that the thicker 30 grip gave people a better hold on the gun, caused less "limp wristing", and therefore worked better. But there are other possibilities -- maybe the thinner slide on the 36 is lighter, requiring a stiffer spring rate to balance the recoil, changing the dynamic of the timing and making the gun pickier about ammo. I'm not an expert, an engineer, or a gun designer, so that's just a guess on my part.

If the new 30S is as reliable as 30, I'd be interested in one. I have found that the thickness of the gun makes a huge difference carrying IWB. My Walther PPS, no problem. My G19, no problem... but better not eat too much. A G30, not even on a good day. Its just too much.

mike56
January 20, 2013, 10:10 AM
Glock site shows model 36 width as 1.10.

model 30sf width as 1.28

Not sure how much .18 difference will make/feel? I like the GEN 4 improvements to grip texture and mag release. Not sure why they didn't build it on that gen 4 frame?

MyRoad
January 20, 2013, 04:04 PM
Can any 30S owners tell me if gun fits properly in existing Kydex holsters made for either the 30 or the 36?

I wonder if because of the variation of thickness between the frame and the slide, if the 30S will not fit into Kydex IWB holsters that already exist.

Inebriated
January 20, 2013, 04:22 PM
Not sure how much .18 difference will make/feel? I like the GEN 4 improvements to grip texture and mag release. Not sure why they didn't build it on that gen 4 frame?

I think it's noticeable. I can tell a difference between carrying a 21 and 31.

jon_in_wv
January 20, 2013, 04:55 PM
It took them a year to figure out how to put a 36 slide on a 30 frame? Hmmmm.

Chas.
January 20, 2013, 08:23 PM
Sounds like that new model incorporates some of the features that were desired when the 45gap came out. Wonder if Glock is sneaking away from 45gap.

ljnowell
January 20, 2013, 08:31 PM
Glock is rapidly losing touch with the civilian market, and nowadays that matters very much to them. The fact is they made a gun out of parts laying around then hyped it up. People are less than impressed, myself included. I own a glock, would never sell it, but I certainly wont buy another until they come up with something new and worthwhile.

The Lone Haranguer
January 20, 2013, 10:35 PM
So here's my question: who picked up a 30 and said, "Wow this would be great if only the slide were thinner?"

I have, a number of times. Two more will make it a crowd. ;)

I was really hoping for a G36 with a full length grip and a flush-fitting 7-round magazine, or a pocketable Kahr PM9-sized gun, but that was not to be.

Onmilo
January 21, 2013, 12:06 AM
Gee, ya think a 7 shot G36 would be a good idea what with all the hoopla going on in New York?
NAH! I bet something like that would NEVER sell~! :rolleyes:

Okie45
January 21, 2013, 02:47 AM
You would think they could of just tapered the glock 30 slide like an XDM .45 3.8 slide.
Not sure why Glock would want to go mixing parts from one of its most reliable guns with one of its most problematic ones.

VoodooSan
January 21, 2013, 03:51 AM
I love my 30SF 3rd Gen. Neat to see another offering from GLOCK but not getting rid of mine for a 30S.

dtfb
January 21, 2013, 09:51 AM
i seriously had the same problem.

CPshooter
January 21, 2013, 11:40 AM
It's amazing that they chose to do this instead of release a single-stack 9mm like everyone wants. Just a cheap and gimmicky thing to do IMO. How about some real innovation and consistency in a product?

Ky Larry
January 21, 2013, 02:50 PM
I'm no engineer but is it possible that Glock has gone about as far as it can go with it's basic design? Have they reached a point that they are making changes just for the sake of change? Hopefully, someone better informed than me will come along and inform us.

Blueduck
January 22, 2013, 09:46 PM
So you all who "Rolled your own" or if there are new owners out there, what kind of holster are you using? Will a G-36 holster work or do you still have to use the G-30 holster?

Hamburger
February 8, 2013, 12:38 PM
I'm sure it's old news by now about the G30S, but how silly is it that Glock claims their engineers developed a slimmer slide Glock 30?

People have been doing it for years. Even before the SF version came out.

Next, they will take Pearce's idea and claim they "re-engineered" the magazines

g_one
February 8, 2013, 01:26 PM
They did develop a slimmer slide. Someone else may have developed it first, but I don't think Glock is claiming to have been the first to develop one.

NG VI
February 8, 2013, 01:35 PM
I'll be honest, a 30/36 hybrid was exactly what I wanted from them, and if they were in stores back when I was an active recreational shooter I would have snapped one up.

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