Hey Mike. M-99 ?


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M99M12
March 7, 2004, 12:55 PM
.308 M-99 #9587** easy 95%. Could ya tell me anything? Value, age, etc.
Thanks

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Mike Irwin
March 7, 2004, 02:25 PM
OK, the fact that it's .308 means that it was introduced after 1955.

Right now there's not a lot of information on Savage serial numbers post 1955, but I would guess that it was made sometime in the late 1950s or early 1960s. Judging by the book, it's pre 1961, though.

It could be one of any number of models. Unfortunately, Savage never marked model designations on their guns so far as I know.

Likely contenders are the R, the RS, the EG, the F, the DL, or the E, although the DL and E are probably a bit too late.

You'll need to provide some specifics about your gun -- stock type, weight, barrel length, sights, for me to be able to give you any hint of what it might be. A picture would be good, too.

Value is probably in the $300 to $600 range, depending on specific model and local market.

M99M12
March 7, 2004, 02:36 PM
Hey, thanks Mike. That's more than I been able to find. I'll get it out in a bit and get back at you.

M99M12
March 7, 2004, 03:51 PM
Mike, my 99 has a 24" bbl, straight-comb pistol-grip stock. Fore-end is blocky, not one of those schnabel types. Simple cut checkering. Brass bead front sight and a folding semi-buckhorn rear. Has a stepped ramp elevator. My Dad put a K-4 Weaver on it with Weaver mounts. Has the lever locking safety. Oh, yeah. After averaging a few tries on my bathroom scale, I come up with an easy 8 lbs. empty.

Also, do you know when they moved the safety to the tang? And when that removable magazine was introduced?

Thanks for the help. You're right about there not being a bunch of info.

Gordon
March 7, 2004, 04:00 PM
sounds like a 99R(or RS) but could be an F as it has a Weaver Steel K4 and steel mounts and 'only' weighs' 8lbs. Great gun ,great era of production,great(and inexpensive) caliber-you win, agree with $400-600 price depending on condition(80-98%).:Doh I see "Weaver mounts" and 8# easy- prolly NOT an F!

Mike Irwin
March 7, 2004, 04:13 PM
OK, since it doesn't have the schnable forearm, it's not an EG.

OK, just learned something new. The 99F was the first one to have the model designation on the gun itself, in 1955. That marking would be on the right hand side of the barrel near the receiver.

It looks like folding buckhorn rear sights were added in 1959 on some rifles, including the F. It can't be an F, though, as the F had a 22" barrel.

It's not a DL, that had the tang-mounted safety.

Does it have a cartridge indicator on the left front of the receiver? The E didn't, but again, I think this gun is too early for an E.

Judging by the book, the only two models that are matching what you seem to have are the R and the F, but again the barrel length isn't right for an F.

Does it have sling swivels on it? Were they original to the gun when your Dad got it?

Unfortunately, the book doesn't give approximate weights. I thought it did.

Ultimately, though, I think your rifle may be an R model.

Mike Irwin
March 7, 2004, 04:17 PM
Gordon,

It can't be an F. The F only came with a 22" barrel.

Savage was making rifles with the tang safety and the lever safety at the same time in the 1950s. By I believe about 1970 the lever safety was history.

The detachable magazine was introduced in 1965. It was the first major change to the design (other than a strengthening of the action for the .243, .308, .358, and .284 cartridges) in 66 years.

M99M12
March 7, 2004, 04:43 PM
Hell, you all are good. 'Preciate it.

No model number
Has the cartridge counter
My Old Man didn't use a sling, so I figure the swivels are original
Scope mounts are aluminum

From reading your posts, looks to me like an "R".

Where did you find this info?

And it's a guess on the weight.

Mike Irwin
March 7, 2004, 05:08 PM
The mounts are definitely after-action add-ons. Savage never provided, as far as I can tell, Weaver aluminum mounts. I THINK they were steel mounts, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

The book I'm using is "The Ninety-Nine, A History of the Savage Model 99 Rifle," by Doug Murray. This one is the second edition, put out by the author in 1980.

I'm pretty sure that there's a third edition, and it was for sale for some time in Shotgun News, but I don't know if it still is.

Murray was still around 10 years ago when I spoke with him. Nice guy.

M99M12
March 7, 2004, 05:30 PM
Again, thanks for the info and the time you spent on it. I durn well like my old clunker. My son-in-law was asking about it last summer. Him and a couple of his pals were shooting with me, they had newer plastic stocked bolt guns with 3x9s. One had a 4x12 on a Rem. 7 mm mag. We were at a friends place shooting paper at 100 yds. Then I started on a 15" gong, just short of 400 yds. Once I got the range, holding the top of the post on the top of the gong, I was getting 4 out of 5 on it. Sometimes 5. I was pretty impressed, those bolt guns didn't beat it. Thanks again.

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