NJ Govenor.....Oh Boy.


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xXxplosive
January 17, 2013, 03:08 PM
NJ Govenor Christie / Live Stream / just announced a task force here in NJ to consider the issues of violence, gun control, mental illness and will make decisions in a couple weeks.....says his decision won't be affected by NRA or Brady Campaign but wants to hear from all........Oh well.....here it comes.....the Poached Egg of politics......not soft and not hard boiled...the anti Republican Govenor..IMO.

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Cosmoline
January 17, 2013, 03:14 PM
Doesn't NJ already ban everything including HP bullets?

xXxplosive
January 17, 2013, 03:18 PM
Yup..............but here, they could find more.....rubber band guns and sling shots are also illeagle here in NJ.

radiotom
January 17, 2013, 03:19 PM
Not surprising in the slightest.

Doubleobuck
January 17, 2013, 03:21 PM
HP bullets arent banned..you can buy them in the stores.

You just cant shoot someone with them in self defense. You have to use soft points :D

ThatGuyHank
January 17, 2013, 03:23 PM
Seriously? Ugh, I'm sick and tired off walking on eggshells in this state. Half the police force can't even understand the enormous convoluted mess that we call NJ gun law. The last thing we need is more regulation. We have a list of banned weapons, a features ban that would make Feinstein proud, magazine limits, and a Firearms I.D. system that's dependent on whether or not your local police chief is in a good mood. :banghead:

Doesn't NJ already ban everything including HP bullets?

We can buy HPs but can't be in possession of them unless we are going from a store to a range/hunting ground(can't even cartridge rifle hunt anyway)/denizen and anywhere in between the three with reasonable deviations (which does not include fuel, food or rest). :fire:

/rant

xXxplosive
January 17, 2013, 03:24 PM
Even folding knife carry requires that it be work related or one has in their possession a valid hunting and/or fishing lic. ...I mean what the heck else.............Everything ?

lloveless
January 17, 2013, 03:26 PM
wow. That blows my mind away!!!
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Texan Scott
January 17, 2013, 03:40 PM
No matter what else happened today, I woke up in Texas. More and more, every day is a good day to be a Texan.

xXxplosive
January 17, 2013, 03:42 PM
Well, I guess he could eliminate "Hope ".....that would be everthing in NJ.

Gordon_Freeman
January 17, 2013, 03:47 PM
Some Northeastern Republicans seem to on the anti-freedom side. I heard a Hannity interview with Mayor Giuliani, and he was saying that the 1994 AWB was something he agreed with because of all the wonderful compromise.

goldie
January 17, 2013, 03:51 PM
Now i see why southerners call the civil war the war of northern aggression.I renounce my yankee roots !

Silent Bob
January 17, 2013, 03:51 PM
No matter what else happened today, I woke up in Texas. More and more, every day is a good day to be a Texan.
And a bill has been introduced here in Texas (H.B. 553) making it a crime for any Texas Peace Officer, State Officer, or State Employee from attempting to enforce any federal gun control in the State.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83R/billtext/pdf/HB00553I.pdf#navpanes=0

Wait until Christie in NJ signs even more onerous gun control into law, Obama will be crowing that gun control is "truly a bipartisan issue".

Grassman
January 17, 2013, 03:55 PM
Christie really had us fooled, but the way he handled hurricane Sandy showed his true colors, I'm not shocked he'll turn out to be a gun grabber. Glad us in the free states found out now, before he got any further.

xXxplosive
January 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Really, what's left here except..."Hope".....they've taken just about everything....even a NJ state supreme court judge said here a while ago....that our 2A rights and not garanteed in NJ......this place is not good place to raise a family, IMO.....and can't wait to leave.

Ryanxia
January 17, 2013, 04:03 PM
They'll keep doing a little bit at a time so no one will stand up and fight as their freedom is taken away. Continue the political campaign to retain our freedom until it fails, at which point every man will have to decide if his Country and Constitution are worth fighting for..

TexasBill
January 17, 2013, 04:18 PM
And a bill has been introduced here in Texas (H.B. 553) making it a crime for any Texas Peace Officer, State Officer, or State Employee from attempting to enforce any federal gun control in the State.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83R/billtext/pdf/HB00553I.pdf#navpanes=0

Wait until Christie in NJ signs even more onerous gun control into law, Obama will be crowing that gun control is "truly a bipartisan issue".

Well, that's Texas and Wyoming: Wonder if Jindal and some of the other Southern governors would bless similar legislation in their states? How about Montana? Idaho? Nevada? Enough to make a coalition of states?

Those surprised by Christie shouldn't be: Bloomberg used to be a Republican, too.

leapfrog
January 17, 2013, 04:25 PM
Maybe a unilateral background check for politicians by a board of mental health doctors before they are allowed to seek office.

xXxplosive
January 17, 2013, 04:48 PM
I second that motion.............

radiotom
January 17, 2013, 04:51 PM
I think we should truth-serum their butts and have a town hall meeting.

Cosmoline
January 17, 2013, 05:40 PM
I feel for you guys. Maybe we need an underground railroad to help gun owners escape the slave states.

Prophet
January 17, 2013, 05:45 PM
Hollow points would be safer than forcing everyone to use FMJ as they decrease the possibility for collateral damage. Stupid.

Christie's response doesn't surprise me, especially after watching him stab Romney in the back right before the election.


I'll post Christie's contact info as soon as I dig it up.

carlrodd
January 17, 2013, 05:47 PM
he was never any ally of gun owners.

mjw930
January 17, 2013, 05:52 PM
Hey, here's a novel idea, Christie can have his task force look at all the idiotic laws on the NJ books, quantify which ones actually reduce crime and which ones don't. Eliminate the ones that don't to save money in a fiscally bankrupt state and shift that savings to enforcing the ones that actually do work so the criminals stay locked up.....

Never mind, I was day dreaming. Thank God I moved out of that hell hole 20 years ago. Glad I woke up in Florida this morning.

miles1
January 17, 2013, 05:59 PM
From what im hearing in Ohio it looks like our govenor won't be adding any new laws of his own.My condolences to NJ.

morcey2
January 17, 2013, 06:04 PM
From what im hearing in Ohio it looks like our govenor won't be adding any new laws of his own.My condolences to NJ.
Ohio's got one of my favorite governors. If only he were President instead.

KTXdm9
January 17, 2013, 06:14 PM
I guess he's trying to torpedo his presidential chances early??

Prophet
January 17, 2013, 06:20 PM
Sic 'em.

http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/governor/govmail/govmail_1c_new.pl

zorro45
January 17, 2013, 06:25 PM
I think Gov. Christie needs someone watching the size of his "big gulps" just as in NYC, and we need some challenges to the arbitrary and capricious issuance of CCW permits in that state. Also, the legislature needs some schooling on the advantages to bystanders/persons "downrange" of the target with HP rounds in the target vs. a round that is more likely to penetrate and keep going.

BHP FAN
January 17, 2013, 06:39 PM
RINO alert!

JBrady555
January 17, 2013, 06:43 PM
Christie shouldn't be banning anything, he wants to be president doesn't he?

Prophet
January 17, 2013, 06:54 PM
he wants to be president doesn't he?

I think he wanted to be veep but got miffed during the '12 election because Romney didn't pick him. So he gave the president a pat on the back for his "handling" of Sandy right before the election, making him out to look like a compassionate team player and helping him to gain the undecided vote.

I wasn't a fan before that either. I was initially surprised at how many of my conservative friends viewed him favorably... granted that was when he claimed to have balanced NJ's budget and fiscal matters were on the table rather than firearms.

Leanwolf
January 17, 2013, 07:13 PM
GORDON FREEMAN - "I heard a Hannity interview with Mayor Giuliani, and he was saying that the 1994 AWB was something he agreed with because of all the wonderful compromise. "

Giuliani is just another hypocrite like that RINO tub-o'-guts, Christi... except Giuliani is not made of buckets of lard. Other than that, two peas in a pod.

Both hate the Second Amendment. They, however, will not give up their heavily armed bodyguards, will they, in order to have the courage of their convictions? Same with Obama. Hypocrites one and all.

Of course, as we worker peasants and serfs all know, "They" are our elite superiors and deserve elite protection, while we don't.

L.W.

beatledog7
January 17, 2013, 07:25 PM
Hey, Governor Christie,

Spoons kill. Ban' em!

glove
January 17, 2013, 07:46 PM
And we just keep voting in these same clowns over and over again. :eek:

miles1
January 17, 2013, 07:48 PM
And we just keep voting in these same clowns over and over again. :eek:
Not this clown!

gpb
January 17, 2013, 07:57 PM
I’m concerned with the number of gun owners that are “surprised” by the actions of Christie. My view is that anyone who was paying the least bit of attention knew exactly what Christie was and is not surprise at all by his actions.

If this “surprise” is indicative of the level of political knowledge that many gun owners have in general, we are in deep trouble. It seems that many gun owners are unable or unwilling to identify those politicians that are against gun rights. Gun owners really need to pay attention.

Guvnor
January 17, 2013, 07:59 PM
Check out of some of these bills being proposed in NJ legislature. Absolutely insane. Way worse then anything that passed in NY. Even one calling for a psychological exam and home inspection of anyone who wants to purchase a firearm. However, i have a feeling Christie will veto most, if not all of these ridiculous bills if he wants to have ANY hope of winning Republican nomination in 2016.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2013/1/new-jersey-the-2013-legislative-session-has-begun-with-anti-second-amendment-legislation-filed-in-the-assembly-and-senate.aspx

pty101
January 17, 2013, 08:11 PM
Christie has never been friendly to the 2A. I'm glad he is showing his true positions now rather than if he attempted to run for Pres. and hide these things from us. This just shows that some New England Republicans are no better than their Dems

Dr_B
January 17, 2013, 08:33 PM
New Jersey has all those laws... but wait, isn't there a lot of crime there? Isn't the mob active in New Jersey? Isn't that where Richard Kuklinski was based?

jhb
January 17, 2013, 08:54 PM
Not too surprised. Never liked that big old jersey boy myself. Comes across like a carpetbagger, to me anyways.

Other states should be worried too. I'm in the deep south and have written my state legislators repeatedly. I get the same basic form letter response from all of them. "I grew up on a farm and support the 2nd amendment, but I also think we need to look at assault weapons and high capacity mags, blah, blah, blah." Mind you I'm in a red county/district.....all "a+" rated nra types.......somthing stinks like a ****house rat about this whole thing.

I was feeling safe down here, but I got a bad feeling from the responses I've been getting back.......I wouldn't count y'alls eggs till they hatch.

mgmorden
January 17, 2013, 09:17 PM
That's why I like my state. We've got a FEW restrictions that I'd like to see go (though we've repealed several in the last few years), but it was nice to get my NRA-ILA email for SC this morning and see that all the state level stuff here were pro-gun bills they wanted to support. Nothing anti-gun even on the horizon here.

My only fear is federal level stuff.

xXxplosive
January 17, 2013, 10:47 PM
This could actually be a step up for him if he deals with the mentally ill, street violence and leaves the 2A alone.............what are the odds ?

ShamboPyro
January 17, 2013, 10:58 PM
I'm currently living in the communist regime of new jersey. Life is hard. Every day I wake up to my job in the Nike factory making shoes for americans. One day I'll save up enough money to build a raft and hopefully escape this tirany.

geim druth
January 18, 2013, 12:26 AM
Governor Christie's proposal may, for New Jersey, be a good response to the insane demands for increased gun regulations we face after the recent school attacks. Sadly, in this state the majority of the electorate have absolutely no interest in gun ownership or sympathy with gun owners. They don't realize that New Jersey already has some of the strictest laws in the country, and they are happy when our politicians institute the same nonsensical laws over and over again. In the present climate the only practical pro-2nd Amendment response by a politician to the hysterical calls for more gun controls is to play for time by asking for a committee to study the problem.
While the task force is conducting this study, we should encourage Governor Christie's presidential aspirations by applauding his efforts to oppose any new gun control legislation in New Jersey. Please e-mail him and tell him how you respect and admire politicians who take a courageous stand in defense of our rights. Mention that New Jersey already has very strict laws that impose a heavy burden on honest gun owners but have done little to reduce gun violence. Suggest that the task force look for government responses that will have real effects on the safety of our schools and public gatherings.
We are the voice of sanity and reason and we can win this debate.

12131
January 18, 2013, 12:30 AM
he was never any ally of gun owners.
Yup, the guy is as anti as they come.

ErikO
January 18, 2013, 12:45 AM
Considering the surprises Christie has made in the last six months, what if the recommendation was that their firearms laws are draconian and need to be relaxed as they are overtaxing areas that need financial relief?

Or are we going to just be a bunch of negative nellies?

9MMare
January 18, 2013, 02:04 PM
He's been proposed as a top Republican presidential candidate for 2016.

He'll never get it with an anti-gun platform...but his current record re: guns already speaks for itself.

Trent
January 18, 2013, 02:14 PM
Ummm...


Assembly Bill 3676 sponsored by Representative Angelica Jimenez (D-32) requires a psychological evaluation and in-home inspection as prerequisite to purchase firearm.


They gotta be kidding, right?

In home inspections, by the police, before you can purchase firearms?

They're crossing so many "lines in the sand" here it's ridiculous.

Quick Shot xMLx
January 18, 2013, 02:19 PM
People are finally seeing Christie for what he is. It blew my mind how many so called conservatives wanted him to run in 2012 since the guy is just a fat Mittens. I'll never vote for any candidate that comes from a People's Republik state.

wingman
January 18, 2013, 02:24 PM
Christie is simply another east coast progressive and a bully at best. Best thing firearm owners can do at this point support the NRA or other group of your choice, money talks and if 100 million gun owners join the NRA congress will take notice.

9MMare
January 18, 2013, 02:24 PM
Ummm...



They gotta be kidding, right?

In home inspections, by the police, before you can purchase firearms?

They're crossing so many "lines in the sand" here it's ridiculous.

Wow. Does she not understand the definition of 'right' at all?

Guvnor
January 18, 2013, 05:56 PM
I am saying this as an independant voter and i hope i dont ruffle too many feathers around here. Christie is probably our best hope in 2016. A moderate Republican who is "somewhat friendly" to the 2A like Christie has broad appeal to independents. Karl Rove once said "nominate the most conservative guy who can still win."

The fact that Christie is calling for a task force to study the UNDERLYING CAUSES of gun violence instead of jumping on the gun control bandwagon shows that he is not an anti. I spent many years living in NJ and it really is IMPOSSIBLE to understand the political climate of the state unless you have lived there. It is THE most anti gun state in the nation, by leaps and bounds. Christie is just trying to play his political cards right and not appear to be either overly hostile OR overly friendly to the 2a.

9MMare
January 18, 2013, 10:29 PM
I am saying this as an independant voter and i hope i dont ruffle too many feathers around here. Christie is probably our best hope in 2016. A moderate Republican who is "somewhat friendly" to the 2A like Christie has broad appeal to independents. Karl Rove once said "nominate the most conservative guy who can still win."

The fact that Christie is calling for a task force to study the UNDERLYING CAUSES of gun violence instead of jumping on the gun control bandwagon shows that he is not an anti. I spent many years living in NJ and it really is IMPOSSIBLE to understand the political climate of the state unless you have lived there. It is THE most anti gun state in the nation, by leaps and bounds. Christie is just trying to play his political cards right and not appear to be either overly hostile OR overly friendly to the 2a.

I lived there. My entire close family is there. (And the kids are into shooting and encouraged).

And it's a hostile gun environment that Christie fosters and encourages expansion on.

I dont really see an anti-gun Republican getting in anywhere in the next several yrs, but that is just IMO.

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