Shipping a pistol to another state


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gandog56
January 17, 2013, 04:36 PM
I do not know if the recipient has a C&R license or not. If he doesn't, I assume I was to ship it to his FFL guy. My only FFL is a C&R. All the rules I see say FFL to FFL. Does my C&R get me anything?

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mgkdrgn
January 17, 2013, 08:18 PM
Only if what you are shipping is a C&R item. And even then, depending on what state it is going to, that might not count for squat. Call your local ATF office and ask them.

gandog56
January 23, 2013, 09:33 PM
Like if it's a pistol, do NOT ship it directly to the recipient in NY, NJ, Mass, And <edit> Kal.

soloban
January 23, 2013, 09:38 PM
I think you might have to go through an 01...even if you are 03 and recipient is an 03. Going USPS you have to file out a cert that says you are a dealer. UPS will still charge you $50+ to send it 2nd day air. Cheaper to just take to to an 01 and transfer it to ship to the other 03.

stolivar
January 23, 2013, 09:46 PM
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PISTOLS HERE

You can not ship through USPS with a C&R or receive one with a C&R through the Post Office.



steve

brboyer
January 24, 2013, 12:44 PM
You can not ship through USPS with a C&R or receive one with a C&R through the Post Office.



steve
You are mistaken.

stolivar
January 24, 2013, 06:34 PM
I am a C&R FFL and work for the Post Office. here are the rules for mailing a pistol.

11.1.2 Handguns

Pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person (referred to as handguns) are nonmailable unless mailed between the parties listed in 11.1.3 and 11.1.5 after the filing of an affidavit or statement required by 11.1.4 and 11.1.6.

11.1.3 Authorized Persons

Subject to 11.1.4, handguns may be mailed by a licensed manufacturer of firearms, a licensed dealer of firearms, or an authorized agent of the federal government or the government of a state, territory, or district, only when addressed to a person in one of the following categories for use in the person's official duties:

a. Officers of the Army, Coast Guard, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, or Organized Reserve Corps.

b. Officers of the National Guard or militia of a state, territory, or district.

c. Officers of the United States or of a state, territory, or district, whose official duty is to serve warrants of arrest or commitment.

d. USPS employees authorized by the Chief Postal Inspector.

e. Officers and employees of enforcement agencies of the United States.

f. Watchmen engaged in guarding the property of the United States, a state, territory, or district.

g. Purchasing agent or other designated member of agencies employing officers and employees included in 11.1.3c. through 11.1.3e.

11.1.5 Manufacturers and Dealers

Handguns may also be mailed between licensed manufacturers of firearms and licensed dealers of firearms in customary trade shipments, or for repairing or replacing parts.

11.1.6 Certificate of Manufacturers and Dealers

A licensed manufacturer or dealer need not file the affidavit under 11.1.4, but must file with the postmaster a statement on Form 1508 signed by the mailer that he or she is a licensed manufacturer or dealer of firearms, that the parcels containing handguns (or major component parts thereof) are customary trade shipments or contain such articles for repairing or replacing parts, and that to the best of his or her knowledge or belief the addressees are licensed manufacturers or dealers of firearms.


f. Licensed manufacturer and licensed dealer mean, respectively, a manufacturer of firearms or a bona fide dealer of firearms, duly licensed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the Treasury, under the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618), 18 USC 921, et seq.

Now which part did you not understand.


steve

gandog56
February 7, 2013, 09:12 PM
Can you cut through the legalese and just say yes or no, a C&R with a 003 FFL can or cannot use the post office?

I can't understand lawyerspeak.

deadin
February 7, 2013, 10:04 PM
No. A FFL03 cannot use the USPS for handguns. (Other than antiques)

stolivar
February 7, 2013, 11:24 PM
I did not give you lega lease the first time.


It is still NO.



steve

gandog56
February 11, 2013, 07:26 PM
I really didn't think so, but since Fed-Ex is so expensive, and UPS stores won't take them, actually have to take it to the center, and it' WAYYYYYY down the road, I had to ask.

gandog56
March 4, 2013, 07:05 PM
Finally went the UPS route, as they were fractionally less than Fed-Ex. But the dude had to actually OPEN my carefully wrapped and taped box to make sure I followed all the rules.

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