A million magazine march on Washington...Could it work?


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ol' scratch
January 18, 2013, 09:30 AM
David Gregory got a "get of of jail free" card when he had the magazine in DC because they claimed it was used as a prop in the debate for gun control and is protected speech under the first amendment. I was wondering if we could do the same thing for our cause under the first amendment. If we could get enough people to march on Washington with magazines, they wouldn't be able to arrest everyone if anyone. A blogger had the same thoughts. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/million_magazine_march.html

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goldie
January 18, 2013, 09:32 AM
Funny i thought about a million gun owner march, minus the guns....

mgkdrgn
January 18, 2013, 01:19 PM
David Gregory got a "get of of jail free" card when he had the magazine in DC because they claimed it was used as a prop in the debate for gun control and is protected speech under the first amendment. I was wondering if we could do the same thing for our cause under the first amendment. If we could get enough people to march on Washington with magazines, they wouldn't be able to arrest everyone if anyone. A blogger had the same thoughts. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/million_magazine_march.html
Oh, I wouldn't count on that much. DC police, Parks Police, Capitol Hill Police, Secret Service, FBI, yadda yadda yadda have a lot of experience in making mass arrests in DC. They would have no problem at all scooping you all up and having you cool your heels in the DC armory for a couple of days just to make an example.

Russ Jackson
January 18, 2013, 01:39 PM
New York City would be better. Imagine the Anti's that would show up. They would ignore the marchers on the news and only interview the anti's.

hso
January 18, 2013, 02:05 PM
Not unless you got the DC PD to approve it and that is not going to happen.

OTOH, if we just had mag bodies without springs/followers and presented requested permission for a public event permit with the "hulls" we might.

Rail Driver
January 18, 2013, 02:09 PM
Not unless you got the DC PD to approve it and that is not going to happen.

OTOH, if we just had mag bodies without springs/followers and presented requested permission for a public event permit with the "hulls" we might.
You mean we still have to follow the rules and work within this corrupt, broken system to try to change it while our enemies aren't required to? Something fishy about that, and it doesn't sound right to me. One law for me and another for thee? Sorry, that isn't how it works here in this country. We have legal precedent now, I would think.

DC PD did NOT approve Gregory's use of the mag. In fact, they told him NO and he did it anyway - And faced no charges.

When's it our turn?

ol' scratch
January 20, 2013, 12:20 PM
I wasn't talking about getting approval. I was talking about doing it anyway. Isn't that the whole point of civil disobediance?

psyopspec
January 20, 2013, 02:14 PM
The prosecutor declining charges on Mr. Gregory had nothing to do with concluding his use of the magazine was protected pseech. They chose not file because they did not consider the prosecution to be a wise use of the their time and resources, and would not serve the safety or public interest of the District. I wouldn't want you assuming that you could do such a march under 1A and claim an actual lawful precedent set by David Gregory.

Texan Scott
January 20, 2013, 03:31 PM
Want your magazine to be "protected speech?" Stage a march with the kind you READ. It can be just as potent a visual.

Imagine... no signs. No shouting. A minute of silence called at the Washington Mall, and in absolute and grimly determined quiet, around the reflecting pool, hundreds of thousands of American hands holding up copies of a printed magazine with a GUN on the cover.

No laws broken. Only literature and the resolve of ordinary Americans on display.

These are our "gun magazines". Yes, we own guns. We also read - and vote.

au01st
January 20, 2013, 03:56 PM
Says never successful, but there's a first time for everything...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_prosecution

And yes, I know wiki articles are not generally good sources, but its a good summary.

hso
January 20, 2013, 04:27 PM
When's it our turn?

Never

We don't break the law to make a point when the point can be made without breaking the law.

Steel Horse Rider
January 20, 2013, 04:41 PM
The other obstacle against lawful average citizens attending an event in mass is that most of us have to work for a living and we don't have someone else paying for the bus trip to DC.

USAF_Vet
January 20, 2013, 04:47 PM
An empty holster Million Man March would get the point across as well.

PRM
January 20, 2013, 04:53 PM
A million gun owners personally contacting their elected officials would have more effect than being an anonymous person in a crowd and a lot easier to get done.

Warp
January 20, 2013, 04:55 PM
An empty holster Million Man March would get the point across as well.

Judging from the turnouts at state capitols yesterday, that just isn't happening.

Seanxlu
January 20, 2013, 05:33 PM
I'd bring just 30-round AK magazine bodies. They should be legal anywhere?

wacki
January 20, 2013, 06:22 PM
The police would just use the event as a massive fund raiser. Giving everyone a citation and a $1,000 "pre-trial" diversion fee.

It's what they do at college campuses and spring break. The cops would have no problem laying out the pain on the citizenry.

wv109323
January 20, 2013, 08:10 PM
We could all just show up to go to the Smithsonian on the same day. Walk around Washington to sight see. Of course the White House and the Capital are must sees. Like 2-3 million. We could all eat at Chick-Filet. We could all wear NRA gear but no central organization.

Warp
January 20, 2013, 08:14 PM
We could all just show up to go to the Smithsonian on the same day. Walk around Washington to sight see. Of course the White House and the Capital are must sees. Like 2-3 million. We could all eat at Chick-Filet. We could all wear NRA gear but no central organization.

I wouldn't eat at the chick-filet.

Just sayin'

ToraBoraBlues
January 20, 2013, 08:36 PM
Some pigs are more equal than others. A liberal anti-SA propagandist violating gun laws? Fine. Pro-SA citizens carrying magazines? I'd bet the liberals would be frothing at the mouth for them to be shot in the streets. You can bet your entire months paycheck, after what's left after paying for Obama phones, welfare queens EBT, kickbacks to campaign contributors, etc etc, that you would be arrested, beaten, prosecuted, and fined/imprisoned to the full extent of the law. Since law no matters anymore, probably more.

jmace57
January 20, 2013, 09:55 PM
I say just attach the real magazine to a picket sign. Apparently the First Amendment trumps the Second Amendment.

HOOfan_1
January 20, 2013, 10:00 PM
The prosecutor declining charges on Mr. Gregory had nothing to do with concluding his use of the magazine was protected pseech.

Wrong...

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/01/david-gregory-will-not-be-prosecuted/

Influencing our judgment in this case, among other things, is our recognition that the intent of the temporary possession and short display of the magazine was to promote the First Amendment purpose of informing an ongoing

Warp
January 20, 2013, 10:10 PM
That's how they like it. Go after the Second Amendment first. Gotta take away the teeth before you go after the body.

351 WINCHESTER
January 21, 2013, 12:49 AM
How would everyone get around, park, eat, got to the bathroom, sleep? Really!

gunNoob
January 21, 2013, 12:57 AM
Lock and load

BLB68
January 21, 2013, 12:58 AM
Never

We don't break the law to make a point when the point can be made without breaking the law.

Well, with some people, you can't make the point no matter what you do, or the legality of it. Since the only people we can hope to influence are the genuinely misguided and misinformed and the fence-sitters, this is sound advice.

I saw another collage of stupidity from "our side" on a Colbert from a few days ago. It ended on a video of James Yeager threatening to kill people. With friends like him (and so many more), we don't need enemies.

We'd be better off if we kept cool heads and let the other side shoot off at the mouth and break the law.

hso
January 21, 2013, 12:58 AM
How would everyone get around, park, eat, got to the bathroom, sleep? Really!


A permit is gotten for a specific date/time for the peaceable assembly, everyone rides the Metro to the appropriate station and assembles for 2 - 4 hours and then back to the station and your cars and hotels at a comfortable remove from the city. Events like these have been held successfully. We're supposed to be the responsible ones that don't need to be picked up and lead by the hand to these things.

wacki
January 21, 2013, 01:35 AM
We're supposed to be the responsible ones that don't need to be picked up and lead by the hand to these things.

Thank heavens for that. I'd question my beliefs / associations if it was the other way around.

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