If you could bulid your own hd gun no restrictions what would it be?


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horsemen61
January 19, 2013, 12:11 AM
Ok guys me and a buddy were discussing this at length and I thought I would ask you guys so what would it be. If you could bulid any gun not just for hd but any gun. I think a full auto 9mm AR 15 with a 12 inch barrel and a suppressor and 30 round mag would be fun. Please don't just say a pump 12 gauge have fun with it.

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Isaac-1
January 19, 2013, 12:15 AM
Why would I want to shred my house?

horsemen61
January 19, 2013, 12:17 AM
Who said it had to be inside lets say in defense of your property

Vandyatc
January 19, 2013, 12:38 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/19/esave3ab.jpg

Like this one? 9mm AR, 12", suppressed, and select fire (full auto).

It was a riot!

My HD gun is a PS90. However, I would really want a P90.

I'm trying to SBR my current one, and suppressed would be outstanding! They are a great gun.

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hueytaxi
January 19, 2013, 12:38 AM
I like my Taurus Judge with the 3" cylinder. No fears of shooting up my neighborhood, almost guaranteed to hit my target and no cycling jams. While I still have my semi's, revolvers are the closest at hand lately.

horsemen61
January 19, 2013, 12:40 AM
Yes just like that one :D::DD:D

Rail Driver
January 19, 2013, 12:45 AM
I think my ideal HD weapon with no restrictions would be a 12" select fire (3rd burst/semi) in 5.7x28. It would be equipped with a Trijicon RMR Amber dot, AAC M4-2000, compact adjustable stock, foregrip, 50rd mags, Phase 5 battery assist lever, left side charging upper (Ares or LAR Grizzly), and an ATN Mars4 Gen 3 on a QD mount. Oh, and it would have 1911 grips :)

Saakee
January 19, 2013, 12:50 AM
Suppressed SBR Kriss with uv laser, infrared 1x scope, and chainsaw bayonet for when the treants attack!

crazyjennyblack
January 19, 2013, 12:51 AM
I would build a totally custom weapon based on the HK416.

I would invent a new caliber - let's call it "Jenny's Super-Thirty". Take the 10mm case, neck it down to .30 cal and load it hot enough to equal the 7.62x39 but faster, lighter, and flatter shooting. (Just humor me on this....not sure if it's practical). The bullets for this round would weigh 110 grains and have tungsten cores and would be black teflon-coated, just to really tick off the antigunners! :evil:

The rifle itself would take Surefire-style quad stack magazines, so each mag would hold about 60 rounds. I would want an integrally suppressed short barrel (10") flat top HK416 upper with a holographic sight that can turn into a Gen IV night vision unit (hey, it's fantasy, right?) and backup tritium iron sights. The rifle would of course be select fire, and it would come with a spare flat top 24" upper as well chambered in 5.56mm and capable of mounting a long range scope.

For appearances sake, I would have the rifle come in a matte stainless finish. The pistol grip would be shaped like a 1911 grip, and would be able to use 1911 grips. Of course I would have a custom "silverwood" laminate grip with my initials in silver inside a silver laurel wreath. The folding stock on the rifle would be matte stainless as well. Handguards, cheekpads, etc. would be made of "silverwood" laminate.

Yep... I got this one down!

OpelBlitz
January 19, 2013, 12:52 AM
I'm quite happy with my M1 Carbine, thank you very much! Although I wish I had 30rd mags for it. 15 will have to do. :)

jerkface11
January 19, 2013, 01:07 AM
China Lake grenade launcher loaded with buckshot.

Frogomatik
January 19, 2013, 01:23 AM
automated sentry guns.

TurtlePhish
January 19, 2013, 01:25 AM
Suppressed FN P90, good light and red dot.

Mr.454
January 19, 2013, 01:49 AM
Already made.

Skribs
January 19, 2013, 01:55 AM
Build it from the ground up? Take the KRISS Vector SMG, suppress it, and bump it up to .50 GI. Add on a good reflex sight and a light.

DeepSouth
January 19, 2013, 02:03 AM
I would take a short barreled Tommy gun.

JERRY
January 19, 2013, 02:26 AM
a cellular disruptor like on star trek.

TanklessPro
January 19, 2013, 02:38 AM
A 1911 would do just fine.

Cesiumsponge
January 19, 2013, 02:41 AM
Since no SBRs are allowed in my state, I'm looking forward to the Daniel Defense ISR release in April which permanently integrates a 5.7" suppressor with a 10.3″ CHF SBR barrel in .300BLK to hit the 16" minimum so only one tax stamp is required. Subsonic .300BLK with a 220gr SMK appears to be similar to a .45ACP in ballistics, but I get more capacity and the control out of a carbine platform over a handgun.
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ddm4_isr-1w.jpg

Even with the "no restrictions" option, I don't want select-fire or an SBR with a detachable can since I don't share cans across multiple firearms. Until then, I use this for daily carry, home defense, and the "pew pew pew".
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/7054739249_963dcbea4a_c.jpg

readyeddy
January 19, 2013, 02:43 AM
HK MP10 select fire

tarosean
January 19, 2013, 02:56 AM
Why would I want to shred my house?


LOL... Though I do have to agree...

Maybe all these people live in sprawling mansions with 2000sqf rooms and have watched Scarface too many times??

For that scenario a MP5SD. For my country home, one of the many handguns I own...

sonick808
January 19, 2013, 03:01 AM
an MP5k chambered in 7.62x25, or 9x25 Dillon

Onmilo
January 19, 2013, 03:04 AM
I would like to be able to adapt my AR carbine to accept a suppressor but those are evil in my state...

Diamondback6
January 19, 2013, 03:26 AM
A CH-53E Super Stallion heavy-lift helicopter rebuilt into a super-heavy gunship. Go Big or Go Home, I say! :D

Zach S
January 19, 2013, 03:56 AM
I'd use an AR15 similar to the one Cesiumsponge posted above.

Most of the time, my current HD gun is an AR15 in 5.56. I wouldn't mind a shorter, suppressed version.

rondog
January 19, 2013, 04:10 AM
Home defense? I'd be happy with just a couple of mods to the M1 Carbine I already have, and a real good way to store it in a secure yet handy manner. I just feel the .30 carbine is already the perfect spook chaser for the house.

Hanniballs
January 19, 2013, 04:28 AM
A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

Silverado6x6
January 19, 2013, 08:58 AM
Anything from Metalstorm based in Brisbane AUS.

j.kramer
January 19, 2013, 09:05 AM
anything in full auto 308 for hd

larger for outdoors

boatmanschneider
January 19, 2013, 09:09 AM
A semi auto .357, 16" rifle with a silencer

stonecutter2
January 19, 2013, 09:13 AM
I would still use my Glock 19 with a flashlight/laser combo on the rail.

I'm not really interested in full auto or a rifle for HD, just due to my concern over the travel of each round and the fact that i have neighbors right next to me (suburban life).

However, seeing as how IL doesn't allow silencers to be bought, ideally I'd have a silencer on it. I've fired my guns outside without cans to at least get an idea of what the blast would be like. My ears rang. I can't imagine how loud it would be indoors, with walls right near me, not to mention how loud it would be for my wife and kid.

Cesiumsponge
January 19, 2013, 12:35 PM
However, seeing as how IL doesn't allow silencers to be bought, ideally I'd have a silencer on it. I've fired my guns outside without cans to at least get an idea of what the blast would be like. My ears rang. I can't imagine how loud it would be indoors, with walls right near me, not to mention how loud it would be for my wife and kid.

It's VERY loud, especially with rifle rounds. There was a huge difference in doing handgun training at a static outdoor range and inside a "shoot house" for me. Walls that are only a few feet away from you and construction absolutely NOT designed to absorb or deflect sound makes it very deafening. Even with hearing protection, you can feel muzzle blast reverb off the surfaces.

It's the reason I believe a suppressor should be a serious consideration in a home defense firearm if you have other family members, room mates, or friends that live with you for the sake of communication during or after the situation. Unfortunately state laws don't allow that option for everyone. I haven't taken a suppressed rifle with supersonic ammo indoors but it can safely be shot outdoors without ears, at least for a short while. It's still loud and it takes a mag or two for your ears to ring but that's better than blowing out your hearing on the first round.

I feel a SBR or SBS should also be a serious consideration because it makes maneuverability in a home practical, buy my state doesn't allow that option. Unfortunately state laws don't allow that option for everyone...because SBRs are the choice weapon of criminals and gang members...who can modify existing guns for free without a tax stamp, yet prefer to carry handguns.

For the longest time, I've had a 870 as my HD weapon and I'm still comfortable with using it for barricading. It's not quite as handy trying to clear a house though with narrow halls and closely-spaced doors. I don't really want to clear my own home though, if avoidable. Doing it solo to control all real estate is painstakingly slow. There is a reason clearing a home is a team game when the pros do it.

TurtlePhish
January 19, 2013, 01:01 PM
It's not quite as handy trying to clear a house though with narrow halls and closely-spaced doors. I don't really want to clear my own home though, if avoidable. Doing it solo to control all real estate is painstakingly slow. There is a reason clearing a home is a team game when the pros do it.

It's not only slow, it's ridiculously dangerous. Even for a team of pros.

Wyndage
January 19, 2013, 01:08 PM
For defense inside the home, I think a handgun has some real advantages. If you have kids, for example, you might want to have a hand free. It's hard to operate an AR or shotgun one-handed. In that scenario, my choice would be a suppressed .45-caliber handgun. Probably an HK, but a Glock would work too.

RBid
January 19, 2013, 01:11 PM
I would really just like to add a Streamlight TLR-1 (the 300 leumen version) to my PPQ, and get a custom holster to carry it in without having to remove the light.

Ultimate homestead defense? Colt 6920, Gemtech Halo suppressor, Magpul forend, crimson trace vertical foregrip w/light & laser, remove carry handle, mount an Aimpoint (co-witness). Back that up with my PPQ, as above, but wearing the 17rd mags.

In my pondering of hypothetical end-of-days scenarios, I still tend to think that shots outside of 300 yards are too far from reality to mess with, given that I live in the Portland, OR area. If I lived in a place with fewer elevation variations, more common long sight lines, etc... I'd be looking at a 308 of some sort.

Cesiumsponge
January 19, 2013, 01:17 PM
It's not only slow, it's ridiculously dangerous. Even for a team of pros.
Absolutely! I'm not sure how many folks who express a desire to clear their home have actually done structure clearing, properly, under professional instruction. It's not so "high speed low drag cool" once you get tagged in the face a few dozen times by simunitions. It's a last resort for me if family members aren't gathered already. Bunkering down with good boomsticks is the best position to be in, and if I'm barricaded, I want something with more punch than a handgun since you're essentially cornered.

skeeziks
January 19, 2013, 01:19 PM
"A phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range."

Hey, Pal...just what ya' see on the wall.

Malamute
January 19, 2013, 01:32 PM
What I have is fine, other than a couple modifications I'd like to do. Modifications would include adding folding night sights on a couple lever rifles, inconspicous scope bases on the barrels (like for Ruger rings or some other small base rings so they aren't so profoundly ugly, like weaver/picatinny bases are, when no optics are on), and cutting the Browning 92 to 16" for easy carry when a short range carbine would be appropriate. A scoped bolt gun is usualy by the front door for things that arent at porch/yard distance.

Critters are more of a realistic issue than people where I am. The single action Ruger 45 or Smith 44 will do anything I need for short guns. I generally have one on when outside.

SpentCasing
January 19, 2013, 02:18 PM
10.5 AR with an Eotech XPS, can, and a good WML. Thats it.

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