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gspn
January 20, 2013, 02:58 PM
Gun and ammo sales have maxed out capacity...but there's no shortage of gun cleaning supplies. Why?

Are people not cleaning their weapons? Are they simply amassing ammo and not shooting them? Does the cleaning supply industry have more capacity to ramp up production that the gun manufacturers? Are more guns being purchased by existing gun owners who already have a stock of cleaning supplies?

Just got to wondering...that's what 4 hours in a deer stand with no activity will do to me.

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Solo
January 20, 2013, 03:00 PM
People are panic buying, not making rational decisions. Also, gun cleaning supplies will never be outlawed.

rifleman14
January 20, 2013, 03:01 PM
Are they simply amassing ammo and not shooting them?

quite simply...yes

Jorg Nysgerrig
January 20, 2013, 03:02 PM
Are people not cleaning their weapons?
You'll find many folks prefer the idea of owning guns to actually shooting them and like the idea of cleaning them even less.

Are they simply amassing ammo and not shooting them?
Yep. I know a number of guys who won't go shooting with me because they don't want to deplete their stocks. They were like this before the latest craze.

Are more guns being purchased by existing gun owners who already have a stock of cleaning supplies?
There is evidence to support than a large number of the guns purchases are by existing owners.

But the biggest reason... no one has posted on the internet that they are coming for the patches and solvent.

Lex Luthier
January 20, 2013, 03:11 PM
If all these crazy people stocking up on everything right were required to take a basic marksmanship class, learn to field strip their weapon and essentially learn to use their weapon effectively, they would not buy one.

OilyPablo
January 20, 2013, 03:24 PM
I know a number of guys who won't go shooting with me because the don't want to deplete their stocks.

Me too! To the point of no one wants to go. I know we slow down a bit in the winter, but I'm even wondering why I stocked up! Next Friday I'm going alone if no one wants to come to the range with me.

beatledog7
January 20, 2013, 03:36 PM
No run on safes, cases, holsters, etc. Just thangs that bangs!

BemidjiDweller
January 20, 2013, 03:36 PM
I know we slow down a bit in the winter

I speed up during the winter, it's the best time to break the Mosins out!

texasgun
January 20, 2013, 03:49 PM
@beatledog

lots of first time gun buyers as well ... many of them no nada about guns and therefore do not care about cleaning supplies and safe storage. but to be fair: the can of CLP and the few brushes, rags, Hoppes #9 and so on... they last a long time.

I would expect a run on gun safes if some federal requirement (unlikely) or state requirement (more likely) would come down, forcing owners to store in a safe.

slamfirev10
January 20, 2013, 09:39 PM
ed's red

taliv
January 20, 2013, 09:41 PM
some of us just don't clean our guns

huntsman
January 20, 2013, 09:46 PM
If all these crazy people stocking up on everything right were required to take a basic marksmanship class, learn to field strip their weapon and essentially learn to use their weapon effectively, they would not buy one.
RKBA based on taking a class? sorry not buying it, free people should be free to buy what they want when they want. I wouldn't overlook JIT and other modern retail pratices as blame for shortages.

mgmorden
January 20, 2013, 09:48 PM
I think you seriously overestimate how much cleaning the average shooter does on their guns. I know people who have owned guns and hunted with them heavily and about as much "cleaning" as they ever get is if they get rained on and rust they'll wipe them off with WD-40. And honestly, most of them work fine that way. The cleaning "ritual" that many go through is a hold-over from the days of black powder guns and isn't all that necessary on a modern firearm.

ozarkhillbilly
January 20, 2013, 09:51 PM
A lot of people are buying what they are afraid will be banned, I know guys who have put off buying scopes, bolt rifles etc. to buy AR stuff. They plan on going back and getting the other stuff at a later date.

AlexanderA
January 20, 2013, 09:52 PM
People are hoarding, not shooting. This is all driven by expectations of future unavailability.

BLB68
January 21, 2013, 12:48 AM
The cleaning "ritual" that many go through is a hold-over from the days of black powder guns and isn't all that necessary on a modern firearm.

And for some a hold over from military training. Talk about obsessive about cleaning.

Twiki357
January 21, 2013, 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Lex Luthier
"If all these crazy people stocking up on everything right were required to take a basic marksmanship class, learn to field strip their weapon and essentially learn to use their weapon effectively, they would not buy one."

With that line of thinking, a driving class should be required to buy a car (Instead of a license to drive it) or how about training classes for proper maintenance before someone can buy a house?

hueyville
January 21, 2013, 01:43 AM
This week checked my spare parts box. Two factory and one titanium powerncustom 10/22 firing pins. Two factory trigger assemblies but no custom. 2 factory barrels but no customs. I bought 3 powercustoms titanium firing pins, one complete custom trigger assembly, 3 extended magazine releases, spare stock and a match carbon fiber barrel. For AR's did about the same and then for M1a's. I already had fair stock of extra parts but a few at old prices could not hurt. Always kept plenty o parts for 1911's, FN's, etc. I have enough parts I could build complete gun in 10/22, AR, FN, M1a and more. From stocks to springs. I bought everything in town for repairing high cap mags. Followers, floor plates,.springs and so on. Had to buy a second big tackle box just to sort parts into. Banning repair parts to keep folks from building kits or fixing broke guns would really put a hex on the whole darn thing. As long as parts prices hold, I am going to stack them up. Goal is enough parts to rebuild every black gun of mine completely over or just build extras from parts.

MedWheeler
January 21, 2013, 12:41 PM
I own fewer cleaning kits than I do firearms. Some guns, such as rimfires, just don't get cleaned after every shooting session. Others can share a single cleaning kit.

I don't own any guns I don't shoot.

ScottieG59
January 21, 2013, 12:50 PM
Maybe the newbies are using their dishwashers or clothes washers and driers :eek:

mrvco
January 21, 2013, 01:24 PM
Hopefully gold prices will dip soon...

cheesebigot
January 21, 2013, 01:24 PM
some of us just don't clean our guns

The rest of us own Mosins. :)

Also, it's not like gun cleaning supplies are the only materials required to clean a gun. Windex and boiling water do wonders.

Fishslayer
January 21, 2013, 04:46 PM
Maybe the newbies are using their dishwashers or clothes washers and driers :eek:

:D

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/THE_Fishslayer/OSR/glocks-in-the-dishwasher.jpg

My guess would be the n00bs didn't think about it (listen up, gun store employees. You're missing sales!) and most of us already have gear. I live in Kalifornistan & have to wait 10 days to pick up a gun. Most of us spend those 10 days buying accessories.;)

nosmr2
January 21, 2013, 04:56 PM
They are buying with slim intentions of shooting any time soon.

I have a relative that has purchased over 30 guns in the last year without shooting a single one. He probably won't. That's his deal.

Buck Kramer
January 21, 2013, 04:57 PM
Simple, I have a few thousand rounds of ammo several rifles, and a couple handguns, but only 1 cleaning kit, 1 bottle of Rem oil, and a bottle of hoppes. The demand per user is maybe 1-3, but people have a few to hundreds of boxes of ammo per firearm.

joeschmoe
January 21, 2013, 05:04 PM
It's a lot easier to make shift cleaning supplies than guns and ammo.

You can clean a lot of guns with a bottle of mobile 1 oil, some rags and steel wool. Dowels, shoelaces and line can be used for barrels.

6.5x55swedish
January 21, 2013, 05:39 PM
The rush on guns and ammo has been largely driven by speculators... They are buying them for re-sale. Just hop on Gun Broker for a few minutes and that becomes quite evident. I am just waiting for BATF to catch on and shut Gunbroker down... Because private sale for profit treads over the grey line into unlicensed dealer.

r1derbike
January 21, 2013, 05:52 PM
Maybe the newbies are using their dishwashers or clothes washers and driers :eek:Dishwashers? With those caustic soap packets? Say it isn't so!

I clean my pre-charged air rifles after a day of varmint gathering, because of lead smear and lead particles. Helps accuracy tremendously.

I clean my long gun and pistol (powder burners) every other outing, unless I shoot a lot. I should probably clean them after every outing, no matter what. My wife hates the protectant/lube I finish-off with, Ballistol on both air and powder. It smells like my dirty underwear, after a day of mowing, she says.

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