.380 and 9x18 prices When the panic cools off?


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Ignition Override
January 21, 2013, 03:45 AM
Would many of you anticipate that the lowest prices/rd. will be similar, as they were months ago?

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ku4hx
January 21, 2013, 04:40 AM
After the last panic period, component prices that gougers were charging did come down but as a whole, prices did not drop to "pre-panic" levels. As go the components, so go the loaded ammunition. Remington Golden Saber bullets that were $43/1,000 are now $120/1,000. That seems to me a bit much to believe it was caused simple market pressures and "normal" inflation.

Part of the problem is the current panic hit at the worst possible time economically. You pay inventory tax only on what you have on January 1 of any given year, so manufacturers were doing their usual thing and allowing inventory to drift down as far as practical. When the panic hit, demand spiked and as a usual Economics 101 result, high demand and low supply jacked up prices.

Will prices return to pre-panic levels? That's anybody's guess but I'm going with no, not a full drop. Prices will remain elevated at some point the market dictates.

jimbeaux82
January 21, 2013, 04:44 AM
I found some 380 and 9x18 on Aimsurplus at normal prices last week ($14-15/box) , supposedly in stock.

Snowdog
January 21, 2013, 07:47 AM
I plan on a Sig P238 in the very near future, maybe a couple weeks from now unless the prices are significantly higher than they were a few months ago. In that case, I'll simply cool my heels until the fervor subsides.

I can see a panic over standard capacity magazines for ARs and AKs type rifles. I can even understand why folks are spending a pretty penny for M855, as these things can realistically be seen as primary targets for restrictions in the near future. However, I sincerely doubt 9x17/9x18 anything, be it firearm or ammuntion, is at risk in the immediate future. So, yes, I do see an end to this BS within perhaps a couple months.

I, for one, plan on selling off the XM855 I have on hand as well as some of my C-Product 30 round mags after seeing what they're going for on the auction sites.
Heck, I might even sell my Yugo M59/66 and the 7.62x39 I have for it as well and simply use the proceeds to purchase the P238 that I want (and will actually put to use as an EDC option).

ku4hx
January 21, 2013, 08:21 AM
However, I sincerely doubt 9x17/9x18 anything, be it firearm or ammuntion, is at risk in the immediate future.
Given recent attempts to limit ammunition via increased taxes, serial number engraving on bullets, lead laws, PETA push back, anti hunting groups and etc. I think it prudent to consider everything at risk ... significant risk.

In my life I've cast hundreds of thousands of bullets. It's getting very difficult to get the alloy, if not downright impossible. I used to frequent tire shops and buy their old wheel weights. Now, most of the shops refuse for a variety of reasons: company policy, EPA regulations and so forth. Certain states have outlawed lead wheel weights for balancing wheel/tire assemblies.

The moral of the story is it's not just the anti gunners you have to be wary of, it's all sort of folks with all sorts of agendas.

I sincerely hope you're right, but hoping is not a very good way of dealing with an increasingly negative future.

jonnyc
January 21, 2013, 12:08 PM
Oddly enough, when I went to my local Walmart looking for ammo, the ONLY ammunition they had in quantity was .380!

beatledog7
January 21, 2013, 12:24 PM
Prices per round will drop, but not all the way back to pre-panic levels. I suspect we'll see prices settle in at about 10-15% higher than before, just because we'll swallow it.

wild cat mccane
January 21, 2013, 02:54 PM
Love how no one has mentioned that it doesn't go down for the real reason--we pay for it at that price.

ku4hx
January 21, 2013, 02:59 PM
Love how no one has mentioned that it doesn't go down for the real reason--we pay for it at that price.
That's a "usual Economics 101 result"; supply and demand in action ... post #2.

md2lgyk
January 21, 2013, 03:26 PM
The only ammo I've recently purchased was some .380. My local Walmart had five different brands, all priced between $15 and $18. Can't imagine that's inflated prices.

Ignition Override
January 22, 2013, 02:23 AM
My interest in the P-64 (9x18) really cooled off after a third try out with friends' guns yesterday. My Enfield "Jungle" rifles have an acceptable recoil (skinny, middle-aged shoulders), but that Polish is hard to get used to. Never owned a handgun.

Maybe any price drop will be a similar percentage for both of these.

rgwalt
January 22, 2013, 02:46 AM
.380 is pretty available here in Houston. 9mm not so much. Thinking of selling some of my 9mm stockpile that I put together after the las panic, but I hesitate to sell not knowing what the future holds. No point in selling for a profit if my replacement costs stay high. I paid $0.22 per round for my 9mm stock. I could probably sell for $0.50 at this point and make some money.

Kiln
January 22, 2013, 03:03 AM
This is the worst panic buying spree the nation has ever seen. Don't expect prices to go back to reasonable levels for a few years.

They'd just gotten reasonable again when all this crap happened.

mokin
January 22, 2013, 11:00 PM
I appreciate the fact that you have a relatively optimistic view of the future. I hope things cool off and think they will eventually. It was two years here. Even then things weren't like they were before.

Ignition Override
January 23, 2013, 01:53 AM
But you guys are much more experienced. I'm normally a pessimist, but when the fever broke in '09, it cooled fast-but almost nothing was said by politicians about guns or ammo back then.

Now the media is exploiting the CT massacre each day to their own advantage, while shielding the many politicians 'in that camp' who can say/do no wrong, using any reason to increase govt. control over anything and everything.
On second thought, you guys' concern and skepticism are built on a much stronger foundation.

Despite being well into middle age, the gun bug almost never bit, until '07.

bannockburn
January 23, 2013, 06:07 AM
It's kind of funny that just a few years ago .380 was nowhere to be found and when you did come across some, like at a gunshow, it was priced over $1.00 a round.

Last week I was in Walmart just checking to see what little they still had in ammo and the only caliber (of any kind for that matter), that they had in quantity was .380. It was priced around $22 per box of 50.

Pilot
January 23, 2013, 06:15 AM
The media and politicians are fickle. They move to whatever gets them viewers, and ratings or publicity for name recognition and votes. Already the fervor, and emotion is receding, and even AR prices are coming down. Once people realize these gun ban bill will go nowhere on a national level, ammo availibiltiy and prices will become more reasonable.

heeler
January 23, 2013, 08:51 AM
In early 2009 I found myself paying $28-$30 for a box of 380 Auto,and thats when I could find it.
On the other hand I am receiving today an order from Natchez of S&B 380 and paid a mere $12.79 a box for it.
I am still seeing 380 here in Hoston as well but not as cheap as what I just bought.
By the way Natchez is sold out of the remaining stock of S&B.

hardluk1
January 23, 2013, 10:21 AM
I have not seen ammo or guns go up inn price around my area. Better class of dealers can be found .

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