Instead of being against, what would we be for?


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hso
January 21, 2013, 08:25 AM
We know we're all against any restrictions on type of firearms we can own, or restrictions on magazine capacity, or how/how much we purchase ammunition because we know they have nothing to do with violent crime rates, they don't have anything to do with LEO safety, and they infringe on our rights protected by the 2A.

Opposing is reactive, but supporting something is a positive course that in many ways easier and allows us to split the opposition.

What do we support?

Improvement to NICS so that it is more instant? Improvements to NICS so that it is more accurate? Better communication of information so cases like Cho actually get into NICS to block purchases?

Requirements for reporting of potentially dangerous individuals like Loughner and Holms instead of slaps on the wrist?

Studies of the effects of prescription medications treating young people for personality or psychological disorders or a wider range of pharmaceuticals like sleep and ADD/ADHD?

We don't have to just hunker down and man the battlements, we can also flank and maneuver.

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TNBilly
January 21, 2013, 02:31 PM
Sorry HSO I oppose the control legislations that have been passed so far and support repealing them! You did ask what I support!

bainter1212
January 21, 2013, 02:42 PM
Easy. I support constitutional rights.

1911austin
January 21, 2013, 02:46 PM
Iíll support no further limitations on sane and law-abiding citizens.

I do not support any form of a Universal Background Check because registration would be the only way to enforce such a law. I also donít buy the 40% of all gun sales being privately purchased. Given that private purchases are not reported to the government that number seems kind of made up to me.

I know that sometimes people who are mentally defective can pass a NICS check so Iím okay with improving that system.

beatledog7
January 21, 2013, 03:05 PM
I fully support keeping those whom we deem unfit to own a gun off the streets, because on the streets they can always find a way.

manithree
January 21, 2013, 03:28 PM
I would support more border security to keep American guns from allegedly flowing in to Mexico. Even though I don't think that's a huge problem, it could also have other benefits.

joeschmoe
January 21, 2013, 03:34 PM
I support civil rights.
I support the BoR's.
I support and defend the Constitution.
I support Liberty.
I support the rule of Law.
I support the fight against Tyranny

I also support;
improved mental health care for those who seek it
alternatives to pych drugs because of their side effects
improved security and funding of our public schools
enforcing existing law against violent criminals

Yelovitz_503
January 21, 2013, 04:06 PM
I support the enforcement of current laws over writing new ones which supposedly accomplish the same things. What makes people think that writing a new law for the same thing will change anything if we don't even enforce the current law? And on top of that I'm unsure why people have convinced themselves that making a law will do anything to hamper violent criminals. These are, by definition, people who don't follow the law. If they're determined to invest that amount of time and energy into hurting other people then there's damn little you can do to legislate that from happening.

I love going to my LGS and getting a new gun, but I will admit it's a bit too easy. Not that I want to see a drastic change, but if it helps keep someone else from doing something stupid then I don't mind waiting a few days. I wouldn't be thrilled to do so, I'd much rather wait the current 20 min for the background check than have to make two trips and come back, but I'm also not going to do anything violent so I don't mind waiting if I have to.

I support efforts to educate non-gun people about this sport/culture (not just antis, but people who just don't have any familiarity). I think if there was more understanding then people would have a harder time just railing against guns and saying they're pure evil. People always fear what they don't understand and it's important to get that fear out of the way in order to have a reasonable conversation. If you need to I would phrase the approach like this "you seem to be a tolerant and open-minded person, don't you think in the interest of being open-minded you should at least learn enough about this stuff to be able to actually decide if you have a problem with it?" Most people just don't know a gun owner, or they don't know that they know gun owners. If they actually met those people they would see they're not all that bad. They're just regular folks who do something that the anti doesn't do. And for most of the anti-gun sentiments coming from the party that tries so hard to be tolerant and understanding of a lot of groups (immigrants, gay folks, transgendered people, and the poorest people in our country) it's interesting that when it comes to guns they stick their fingers in their ears and just flat our REFUSE to understand. I think that pointing this hypocrisy out could yield positive results, or at least cause them to look at themselves closer, if not make a serious attempt to understand you.

loose noose
January 21, 2013, 04:07 PM
I don't support any infringements on the 2nd amendment, whether that be additional background checks, or especially the preventing me from handing down my firearms to my sons thru a "universal background check", or my being able to sell a firearm to a personal friend, of whom I've known for sometime. First of all let's get the oppressive government off our backs! :fire:

horsemen61
January 21, 2013, 04:15 PM
I support the reopening of the machine gun registry.

DammitBoy
January 21, 2013, 04:17 PM
I support civil rights.
I support the BoR's.
I support and defend the Constitution.
I support Liberty.
I support the rule of Law.
I support the fight against Tyranny

I also support;
improved mental health care for those who seek it
alternatives to pych drugs because of their side effects
improved security and funding of our public schools
enforcing existing law against violent criminals

I support joe

Texan Scott
January 21, 2013, 04:31 PM
I support a comprehensive federal congressional resolution on the rights of states.
I support an historic downsizing of the federal government and a reduction of its role in influencing or attempting to influence social issues, education, economic development, and civil law beyond its constitutional mandate.
I support an end to the use of federal taxation as a tool of social change, to make society more "fair" by redistributing wealth, by granting benefit or imposing penalty for being of a certain group, or for engaging or not engaging in certain practices, activities, or social programs.
And from a 2A pov, I support federal deregulation and a return of these powers and functions to the states individually, where they belong.

Chevelle SS
January 21, 2013, 04:31 PM
I support the reopening of the machine gun registry.
^ This

mrnic3guy1989
January 21, 2013, 04:33 PM
I agree with the original post if we can all get behind something and have a unified front it makes us look sensible to the leftys. Not that the majority of legal gun owners aren't. I would be in support of references for a gun purchase. The main thing that the mass shooting perps have in common is that their a loner. Another thing I support is bullet proof garage like doors hidden above drop ceilings that could be dropped to catch a shooter in a cage while simultaneously releasing an in incapacitating agent. As well as shutters that a teacher could close to keep a shooter out of a classroom and an emergency window like on a bus that would have a roll out fire ladder for higher stories. Some of that is impractical but the door shutter, emergency window, and roll out ladder aren't. I'm in full support of installation of that in every school.

1911austin
January 21, 2013, 04:47 PM
I would be in support of references for a gun purchase. The main thing that the mass shooting perps have in common is that their a loner.

And maybe a hall pass and a note from mommy.

joeschmoe
January 21, 2013, 04:57 PM
I would be in support of references for a book purchase. The main thing that the mass shooting perps have in common is that their a loner. Loners shouldn't have rights. Another thing I support is bullet proof garage like doors hidden above drop ceilings that could be dropped to catch a shooter in a cage while simultaneously releasing an in incapacitating agent. As well as shutters that a teacher could close to keep a shooter out of a classroom and an emergency window like on a bus that would have a roll out fire ladder for higher stories. Some of that is impractical but the door shutter, emergency window, and roll out ladder aren't. I'm in full support of installation of that in every school.

Wil E. Coyote
President of ACME Traps Inc

Texan Scott
January 21, 2013, 05:07 PM
I think, to clarify my previous post, for the sake of brevity, this:

If you are asking what new federal law I might support, my answer is: likely none. In general, all the federal regulation I feel we need already exists, along with some we don't. Our Vice President recently opined that we apparently don't even have hours in the day to enforce existing federal law. I'm fairly certain MORE federal regulation would not help and is not called for.

mrnic3guy1989
January 21, 2013, 05:28 PM
ACME lol when you put it that way I guess I should've said hang giant safes to drop.

leadcounsel
January 21, 2013, 05:32 PM
I support:

1) Eliminating gun laws that don't work.
2) Eliminating gun free zones such as schools and universities.
3) Laws that criminalize any attempts to criminalize gun ownership among non-felons or those not judically mentally hospitalized for violence.
4) Eliminating the need for a license to own or carry a handgun.

thefamcnaj
January 21, 2013, 05:42 PM
Why should someone with a d d be banned from owning fire arms. Or people treated for anxiety with an anti depressant? My wife has fibro. They recommend cimbalta for that because it helps with the pain. This drug is classified as an anti depressant.
Should she have to turn her guns in?

bubba in ca
January 22, 2013, 08:22 PM
I support repealing the Gun Free Zones Act so that states, schools districts and local people can make their schools safer!


I support repealing the ``sporting purposes`` language in gca68 because more guns mean a safer America.

DammitBoy
January 22, 2013, 11:28 PM
I support an investigation into the drugs all these mass shooters were being prescribed.

BLB68
January 23, 2013, 02:45 PM
There are things I'd support, but I lack faith in our legislators to execute them in an unbiased manner. So, I support nothing at this time.

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