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chasgrips45
January 21, 2013, 06:55 PM
I just got home with my beautiful 16'" Rossi Model 92. Nice gun. I decided to go outside & check the action. I put 3,or 4 38 specials in the gun,& noticed that the rounds were really hard to load, the loading gate seemed to be stuck in the depressed position. The gun is jammed up tight. I unloaded the gun by removing the plug that holds the mag spring . The rounds came rolling out , of the front of the gun. OK, but now as before the loading gate is stuck in the depressed position, the gun is unloaded ,&the action is jammed , the trigger operates fine .I just can`t Move the cocking lever. I never even shot the gun & its busted already !!!!!! Sure could use some help!

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ApacheCoTodd
January 21, 2013, 07:38 PM
I'd reach into the receiver and apply a bit of pressure with a finger tip on the bolt while trying to cycle the lever first in one direction and then the other.

After that if nothing happens, grabbing the rifle solidly accelerate it towards the floor (not striking the floor) and stopping sharply - then try the lever.

Another - see if you can depress the hammer away from the bolt to releive any pressure it may be excessively exerting on that new bolt.

beatledog7
January 21, 2013, 07:40 PM
Can you tell if there's a round in the chamber, or absolutely account for all the rounds you loaded into it? You need to do that before proceeding.

d2wing
January 21, 2013, 07:52 PM
That's why as much as I love lever guns, I wouldn't consider them as a top choice for a survival or only gun. They are too complicated.the tube feed is one thing to go wrong, the lever cock and feed another. I won't part with my '94 but
I treat it kindly.

rcmodel
January 21, 2013, 07:57 PM
I wouldn't consider them as a top choice for a survival or only gun.But isn't it strange how perfectly reliable Winchesters were for about 100 years before the the Italian replicas replaced them??

Those early Winchesters where the assault rifles of the day for about 100 years.
And the real Winchesters are no less reliable today then they were then.

rc

chasgrips45
January 22, 2013, 06:37 AM
Well I stuck my finger into the feed ramp hole, while loosening & tightening the screw that holds the the spring for the feed ramp,sure enough, the gate popped out. It still gets stuck in the depressed position once in a while.It seems that the gate gets hung up on something in there I`ll go out & shoot the gun, & see what happens. I sure hate to go through the hassle of sending it back to Rossi.

d2wing
January 22, 2013, 12:45 PM
Really, assault rifles? Which 100 years and by what Army? Yes mine has lasted a generation and a friend has one over 100 years old. But mine has jammed and
There are lot's of moving parts and complicated mechanics. Fine gun though and
Character in spades.

WardenWolf
January 22, 2013, 01:56 PM
Contact Rossi and they'll take care of you. From what I hear they have great customer service.

rcmodel
January 22, 2013, 01:57 PM
Well for starters, the Union army in the civil war.

For a Civil War soldier, owning a Henry rifle was a point of pride. Although it was never officially adopted for service by the Union Army, many soldiers purchased Henrys with their own funds. The brass framed rifles could fire at a rate of 28 rounds per minute when used correctly, so soldiers who saved their pay to buy one often believed it would help them survive. They were frequently used by scouts, skirmishers, flank guards, and raiding parties, rather than in regular infantry formations. To the amazed muzzleloader-armed Confederates who had to face this deadly "sixteen shooter", it was called "that damned Yankee rifle that they load on Sunday and shoot all week!"

They were thought pretty highly of during the Indian wars too.
By both sides.
Just not the army.

Then later by lawmen & outlaws.

rc

backbencher
January 22, 2013, 01:58 PM
The Turks. 3rd battle of Plevna:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Plevna

ironworkerwill
January 22, 2013, 02:06 PM
I would try a refund first.

d2wing
January 22, 2013, 11:04 PM
I stand corrected. I knew they weren't U.S. Army issue. Good to know.

Jim K
January 23, 2013, 05:08 PM
It is interesting to note that the Army turned the Henry and later the Winchester down because they were too complicated, could not be easily cleaned and maintained in the field, and were not powerful enough. In a sense, they were more like submachineguns than "assault rifles" because the ammunition had little power.

And in the Civil War, a major problem with all those "patent" rifles was that there was a limited supply of ammunition, usually just one factory, and once the few rounds bought with the rifles ran out, the soldiers expected the Ordnance Department to come through with more ammunition, which they often could not do.

Jim

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