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jody3870
January 21, 2013, 07:06 PM
Seems there is no powder anywhere for .223 w/55 fmjbt bullets. I found some H4198 and it is shown in the Hodgen manual 21.0 gr. = 3150 fps and 47,600 cup. Anyone used this powder and what do you think?

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edfardos
January 21, 2013, 08:19 PM
h335 is gone. Find any Varget?

the bigger issue for me is finding small rifle primers.

edfardos

GLOOB
January 21, 2013, 08:24 PM
I haven't used that particular powder. I've used lots of 335, and a fair bit of W748 and Varget in 223.

If you look on a burn chart, there's a bazillion powders with a burn rate between H335 and W748. My guess is any one of 'em will do the job, if push comes to shove. If you can get one you have trustworthy load data for, all the better.

mmay1
January 21, 2013, 08:55 PM
My Hodgdon info (2011 Annual Manual) shows loads for 55 g. 223 Rem. with H4198: 19.0 grains for start and 21.0 grains max. The load data will vary somewhat, depending on the projectile you use

rcmodel
January 21, 2013, 09:08 PM
Gas port pressure is gonna be a little weird to cycle an AR-15 reliably with 4198.
It may work in some guns, and not in others

rc

parker51
January 21, 2013, 09:17 PM
H322 cycles my Mini14 without any problem. It also worked fine in my AR's before I sold them. Spring Hill Rod & Gun had 4 or 5 lbs of H322 earlier today but not sure if they ship or not. Here is a link to their web site http://www.springhillrodandgun.com/index.html. It doesn't look like you can place an order on line but they do have their email and telephone on the site. Hope this helps.

45lcshooter
January 21, 2013, 09:39 PM
Need to look harder for powder and primers. Went to PA's largest gun shop yesterday, out of most primers, got small pistol for a buddy. Went to another shop today, they had small rifle for my buddy as well. And both shops i would classify as 4 million in inventory shops, both know how to handle a panic and stock up.

They said they have steady shipments comming in, but the media and other folks online keep creating this panic, they like it because it keeps people comming into their shops. And the thing i like about both the shops, is they wont raise their prices because of the "panic". Manufactures havent raised theirs, so why should a decent gunshop raise prices on anything except for hard candy by the register.

ArchAngelCD
January 21, 2013, 09:42 PM
AA2230 seems to be available most places and Accurate designed that powder around the .223 so it's a very good choice.

KansasPaul
January 21, 2013, 09:52 PM
Any BLC-2 around? It's cheap and works pretty well.

ArchAngelCD
January 21, 2013, 09:58 PM
Any BLC-2 around? It's cheap and works pretty well.
I haven't seen any BL-C(2) in over a month, remember, that's the main military 308 powder.

GT1
January 22, 2013, 01:08 AM
PV had AR-Comp and a couple other powders in that are .223 powders earlier today, might still be in stock.

ArchAngelCD
January 22, 2013, 02:42 AM
AR-Comp still available on PV in 8lb jugs. It seems they got an Alliant shipment in because there are quite a few Alliant powders in stock right now. (including 2400 and Unique)

CLP
January 22, 2013, 11:01 AM
just got 16lbs of aa2230 from midway. has worked great in my ARs and mini14. may be out of stock now though. you may just have to backorder the powder of your choice and wait out the queue.

ArchAngelCD
January 22, 2013, 03:13 PM
just got 16lbs of aa2230 from midway. has worked great in my ARs and mini14. may be out of stock now though. you may just have to backorder the powder of your choice and wait out the queue.
You should have bought that powder directly from Powder Valley at a lower price since that's where it will be coming from anyway since Midway drop-ships from Powder Valley on all powder orders. That's why the double Hazmat fees when you order powder and primers from Midway in the same order. (and don't forget the $9.99 drop-ship fee)

jody3870
January 22, 2013, 03:58 PM
Thanks for the replies. I saw this load in the Hodgdon basic manual and it is a bit faster burning than the BL-C2. Should work in a 16" bbl I figured but hoped to find someone that had used it. Oh well, I'll just try it and see what happens.

GLOOB
January 23, 2013, 06:19 PM
I just noticed that Powder Valley is showing H335, CFE223, BLC2, and H4895 all in stock, ATM.

Or course their shipping is 4-5 weeks behind. But you can get an order in.

James2
January 23, 2013, 06:21 PM
4198 will work just fine in the 223.

I use it in the 222 Rem and it is a very similar size round.

Hmm RC has a point about the gas system. I would still give it a try.

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