Guns that were NOT introduced at Shot Show 2013


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.455_Hunter
January 22, 2013, 12:44 AM
Greetings!

Looking at all the AR/1911/Polymer-Striker Specials has me lusting over what could have been, including:

- A 5-shot .32 Auto DA or SA pocket revolver sized smaller than a J-frame, but bigger than an NAA Mini. Essentially a modern version of classic Iver Johnson .32. Even a .22 LR NAA Mini scaled up to .32 acp (w/ optional .32 S&W extra cylinder) would work perfect, and would compete against the P32/P3AT/LCP crowd. North American Arms, are you listening?

- A US made replica of the Soviet PSM, available in both 5.45x18mm and .25 Auto, with perhaps an ambi-safety added. Cor-Bon could produce nice & hot 5.45 rounds with both FMJ and controlled expansion JHP loads. Something about these guns has always fascinated me.

- A modern replica of the classic Lancaster 2 and 4 barreled DAO sidearms of the Victorian era in .45 Colt/.44 Special/.44-40. Bond Arms, are you listening?

A man is allowed to dream, isnít he??? :)

Take Care,

Hunter

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rcmodel
January 22, 2013, 12:54 AM
I wanted the pre-war Colt Woodsman introduced at the 2007 shot show by USFA.

Guess that is never going to happen!

rc

paintballdude902
January 22, 2013, 01:00 AM
i was hoping keltec would say the rmr-30 is for sale........

hq
January 22, 2013, 08:46 AM
I wanted the pre-war Colt Woodsman introduced at the 2007 shot show by USFA.

This may or may not meet your idea of acceptable fit and finish, but...
http://frontierfirearms.ca/index.php/norinco-m93-woodsman-22lr.html

Personally I'm only interested in COLT Woodsman series .22:s, but at one point I seriously considered getting one of those for plinking.

mgmorden
January 22, 2013, 02:54 PM
These are things I'd be interested in seeing that didn't come out yet:

- Glock single stack 9mm
- Duty sized Kel-tec 9mm or .40
- 5" barrel version of Ruger SR9
- modern Ruger 9mm carbine

Like paintballdude I'm just wishing broader availability of Kel-tec firearms in general too. I would REALLY like to get my hands on a PMR-30 at something resembling MSRP. Wouldn't mind getting a Sub-2000 or KSG either if the price was right. I sometimes wonder if they ever actually make anything besides PF9's and P3AT's though :).

Skylerbone
January 22, 2013, 08:59 PM
Bren Ten anyone? I'd take kinetic hammer to a few thousand rounds of 40 S&W if that one ever happened.

Also wish RRA would announce for this year that indeed the 1911 Poly was and is vaporware but that they'll finally reintroduce their original line up of traditional 1911 offerings.

One more thing I'd like to have seen introduced, a 6" flashlight that doesn't retail for $149.95 I know, too much to ask.

Plan2Live
January 22, 2013, 09:18 PM
A Ruger 10-22 style carbine chambered in 5.7X28 would be really nifty. Especially the takedown version.

Ruger Camp Carbine setup to accept common pistol magazines like XD, M&P, etc.

S&W Shield without the manual safety.

S&W revolvers without the internal lock.

Subcompact version of the XDm.

Sig 239 all stainless.

AFDavis11
January 22, 2013, 09:24 PM
A 4 shot .357 magnum snub nose revolver

weaponhead
January 23, 2013, 09:21 PM
Me too!

"A US made replica of the Soviet PSM, available in both 5.45x18mm and .25 Auto, with perhaps an ambi-safety added. Cor-Bon could produce nice & hot 5.45 rounds with both FMJ and controlled expansion JHP loads. Something about these guns has always fascinated me." :D

SDGlock23
January 23, 2013, 10:17 PM
I'd like a Ruger Super Blackhawk Bisley chambered in 454 Casull.

Don357
January 23, 2013, 10:35 PM
Per MGMORDEN [ "These are things I'd be interested in seeing that didn't come out yet:

- Glock single stack 9mm
- Duty sized Kel-tec 9mm or .40
- 5" barrel version of Ruger SR9
- modern Ruger 9mm carbine "]

I agree with everything EXCEPT the single stack Glock. Glocks are dangerous enough without being small enough to fit into a pocket without a holster or some sort of safety or trigger covering.

Bubba613
January 23, 2013, 11:22 PM
Glock 36-10, a pistol the size of the 36 but chambered in 10mm, carrying 7+1. I'd buy one for carry in a heartbeat.

Swing
January 23, 2013, 11:23 PM
- A 5-shot .32 Auto DA or SA pocket revolver sized smaller than a J-frame, but bigger than an NAA Mini. Essentially a modern version of classic Iver Johnson .32. Even a .22 LR NAA Mini scaled up to .32 acp (w/ optional .32 S&W extra cylinder) would work perfect, and would compete against the P32/P3AT/LCP crowd. North American Arms, are you listening?

There was a prototype (http://www.lesjones.com/2006/02/03/picture-of-naas-mini-32-prototype/) at one point of something like that:
http://naaminis.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=489ee6e8a24d95ba13e62222786995a8&action=dlattach;topic=2715.0;attach=842;image

45crittergitter
January 25, 2013, 07:29 PM
A Ruger LCR in .327 Magnum.

Landric
January 26, 2013, 10:35 AM
A SP101 with an enlarged cylinder window, chambered in .44 Special, with a 5 shot cylinder, DA/SA and DAO options, and 2 1/4" and 3" options.

AJChenMPH
February 2, 2013, 09:38 AM
- A 5-shot .32 Auto DA or SA pocket revolver sized smaller than a J-frame, but bigger than an NAA Mini. Essentially a modern version of classic Iver Johnson .32. Even a .22 LR NAA Mini scaled up to .32 acp (w/ optional .32 S&W extra cylinder) would work perfect, and would compete against the P32/P3AT/LCP crowd. North American Arms, are you listening?
Not exactly what you're looking for, but Taurus (yeah, yeah, I know) has a .380 revolver that's a touch smaller than a J-frame...

One more thing I'd like to have seen introduced, a 6" flashlight that doesn't retail for $149.95 I know, too much to ask.
Don't laugh, but I thought I just saw some nice flashlights in the Frontgate catalog that ran about $40-$70...

GEM
February 2, 2013, 05:16 PM
Scandium J frame 9mm with 547 type extractor

G36 with slimmed and extended grip for more rounds.

sidheshooter
February 2, 2013, 06:53 PM
A SP101 with an enlarged cylinder window, chambered in .44 Special, with a 5 shot cylinder, DA/SA and DAO options, and 2 1/4" and 3" options.

This would be cool, but past threads here have indicated that it can't be done on the SP frame.

Easy on a GP frame, though.

But, so long as we are wishing, the LCR is perfect for scaling up a bit to accommodate the .44 Special round. I love the idea of a 5-shot revolver using the LCR's cam lockwork, a 2 3/4" (a la speed six) tube, and a charter-ish (or even skinny model 12 K-frame) sized frame coming in around 19 oz.

With the cushy grip and frame flexion, I bet that low pressure .44 push would be a pussy cat, even with the gun below 20 oz and modern loads.

Get on it, Ruger. I don't care if the prototyping of the frame is expensive: there are buyers out there for such a beast.

beatledog7
February 2, 2013, 08:10 PM
Single stack 9mm CZ. It would have a steel frame and be 7+1. Essentially a slimmed down version and shrunken CZ-85, it would come in a standard SA/DA model and a decocker model. Both would be fully ambidextrous.

They could call it the CZ-13S and CZ-13SD and sell a million in a week.

lcambre
February 3, 2013, 11:02 AM
S&W revolvers with all models having a non lock option.
S&W scandium Centennial 9mm.

Janos Dracwlya
February 3, 2013, 01:30 PM
A Webley copy in 9mm Parabellum and .45 ACP (and made to take the pressures).

A Smith & Wesson DA Frontier replica in .357 magnum (and made to take the pressures).

A new production Luger, possibly with a larger capacity magazine and drop-safety.

A stainless steel CZ-75BD and PCR.

.22 LR conversion for the Kel-Tec PMR-30.

I'll second the request for a Lancaster Pistol replica and single-stack CZ-75 (my wife has trouble with most double-stack guns due to having short fingers).

Like the man said, we can dream, can't we?

helitack32f1
February 3, 2013, 05:56 PM
This may or may not meet your idea of acceptable fit and finish, but...
http://frontierfirearms.ca/index.php/norinco-m93-woodsman-22lr.html

Personally I'm only interested in COLT Woodsman series .22:s, but at one point I seriously considered getting one of those for plinking.
Thanks for that link! I had never heard of such a thing. I am a Colt Woodsman enthusiast and have owned five of them but would love the chance to buy one of these Norinco's just for the curiosity factor. I'll have to work on that.

I would still pay lots of good money to purchase a new build, high quality Colt Woodsman. I think they would easily sell every one. As long as they were built to the orgina'ls standards or better.

Trad Archer
February 3, 2013, 10:41 PM
I wish Ruger would bring back the Redhawk with 5 1/2" barrel in 45 Colt.

I wish Colt bring back the 22 single actions.

breakingcontact
February 4, 2013, 01:04 PM
M&P Shield 45 ACP was also not introduced.

Jim PHL
February 8, 2013, 02:59 PM
this /\ breakingcontact beat me to it. I'd LOVE a Shield in .45ACP

k_dawg
February 8, 2013, 07:43 PM
More all-steel large-capacity 10mm offerings.

antiquus
February 10, 2013, 02:32 AM
A Ruger LCR in .327 Magnum.
If it's a 6 shot. They screwed up with the .22mag version which should have had 7 or 8.

loki993
February 13, 2013, 03:23 PM
More all-steel large-capacity 10mm offerings.

More small polymer carry 10mms......and bring back the S&W 10xx series.

jon_in_wv
February 13, 2013, 10:21 PM
I vote bring back ALL of the 3rd Gen Smiths. Especially the 3913.

Or my dream would be to find out some enterprising company bought the rights to Star and has begun modern production of the BM and PD again.

GEM
February 14, 2013, 05:00 PM
I agree. I want a 3913 in the LS configuration but ditch the DA/SA for SA with a safety. Also a polymer frame.

I missed a great deal on a 3913LS years ago when I was broke and still regret it. Should have sold my shoes. :D

VA27
February 15, 2013, 12:09 AM
Kahr PM in 45GAP and 357SIG. I still don't understand why this hasn't happened. Boberg in the same calibers. The PSM or similar in 5.7X28. I'd also go for the 10/22 in 5.7. Bond Arms aluminum/titanium in calibers up to 45ACP. I wish someone would produce the XLM4 semiauto Semmerling. A Mare's Leg version of the 1873 Winchester (don't know why, I just want one).

Newcatwalt
February 15, 2013, 01:44 AM
I'd really like to see a true double action Sig P238. I'd buy one in a heart beat.

jdh
February 15, 2013, 10:33 AM
M&P10L
A modern pistol and carbine chambered in 7.62X25

Madcap_Magician
February 15, 2013, 01:57 PM
Critter, that was MY idea after the LCR was first launched! No Ruger LCR in a 6-shot .327 Federal Magnum. Not even .32 H&R Magnum which might be better (although they make it in a 5-shot .357 Mag which must be INSANE to shoot and will be traded in faster than the Scam-dium revolvers). Is 6-shot .22 Mag all it can take? I think not...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WBOi...layer_embedded

Hello Ruger!?

Obviously things can change over time, but I e-mailed Ruger about this last year and was told there were no plans to do this. I thought it would be really cool, too.

rtz
February 15, 2013, 02:37 PM
How about a Glock with a polymer slide? Mold in an insert made from a "heavy metal" for desired weight.

45crittergitter
February 26, 2013, 05:32 PM
Ruger can't tell you about their plans. Publicly traded company.

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