Please call your senators today re: nuclear option


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abajaj11
January 22, 2013, 07:08 AM
When the Senate reconvenes, Harry Reid is expected to destroy Senate minority rights and turn the Senate into nothing more than a rubber-stamp for Obama's statist agenda. this will mean removing/limiting the filibuster option

This war isn't months away, or even weeks away.

This fight is going down today!

PLease call your senators and ask them to vote AGAINST this nuclear option.
To get your senator's contact, please look at:
https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
:)

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Hacker15E
January 22, 2013, 07:28 AM
When the Senate reconvenes, Harry Reid is expected to destroy Senate minority rights and turn the Senate into nothing more than a rubber-stamp for Obama's statist agenda.

Even the leftist news sources don't believe this:

One reason President Obama made a direct appeal to Americans in congressional districts across the country to support the gun-violence proposals he announced Wednesday is Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The five-term senator from Nevada told The Hill Wednesday that he will bring gun legislation to the Senate floor this year, but he did not specify exactly what that would be. He opposes passing a new version of the 1994 assault weapons ban of certain semi-automatic rifles that expired in 2004. That's one of the president's key proposals.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/16/1179522/-Reid-vows-to-bring-gun-bills-to-Senate-floor-But-he-needs-a-push-for-assault-weapons-ban-to-succeed

joeschmoe
January 22, 2013, 07:36 AM
When the Senate reconvenes, Harry Reid is expected to destroy Senate minority rights and turn the Senate into nothing more than a rubber-stamp for Obama's statist agenda. this will mean removing/limiting the filibuster option

This war isn't months away, or even weeks away.

This fight is going down today!

PLease call your senators and ask them to vote AGAINST this nuclear option.
To get your senator's contact, please look at:
https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
:)
What is your source for this pile of horse... I mean "news"? Is this the same "nuclear option" the Republicans tried to pull when bush was in office? It failed then too.

hso
January 22, 2013, 01:34 PM
Provide some credible proof like, say, an email from the Senate Minority Whip.

Sheepdog1968
January 22, 2013, 04:29 PM
Ruger has an execllen link they have created that makes it very very easy (like under two minutes from when you get to their homepage) to send an email/letter (not sure which) to both your federal and state represenatives.

abajaj11
January 22, 2013, 11:46 PM
What is your source for this pile of horse... I mean "news"? Is this the same "nuclear option" the Republicans tried to pull when bush was in office? It failed then too.
PLease check this link out as one source.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/filibuster-reform-2013_n_2526392.html

And here is a second source:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/harry-reid-filibuster/61291/

And a third:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/reid-optimistic-for-filibuster-deal-in-senate/

This is real. I wish it was horse.....
PLease consider calling your senators, specially the ones on the fence (the (D) moderates).
:)

Ryanxia
January 23, 2013, 11:35 AM
This isn't the first I've heard of this either. I contacted my reps about three weeks ago when I first read an article on this with quotes from politicians.

r1derbike
January 23, 2013, 06:47 PM
I contacted my reps. yesterday. This is only the tip of the iceberg. Just wait 'til the effluent from this administration bubbles-up from the water line. Shocked won't begin to describe what is in store.

csmkersh
January 23, 2013, 06:48 PM
From Steve Wenger's news letter:

From GOA: It’s probably a harbinger of sell-outs to come. But Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell is apparently about to conclude an agreement with Majority Leader Harry Reid which would sell out pro-gunners and decimate minority rights under the Senate rules. This change could occur as early as Wednesday. If enacted, it could handcuff pro-gun forces and keep them from defeating the most radical initiatives aimed at restricting our Second Amendment rights. The first of two changes would allow Harry Reid – and only Harry Reid – to circumvent the hurdles that the minority could use to slow down a controversial gun control bill. As you may remember from the fight over the anti-gun ObamaCare bill, the filibuster of the "motion to proceed" is the last point where pro-gunners can delay a bill before Harry Reid can bribe Senators and buy votes with deals like the infamous Cornhusker Kickback... ACTION: Please contact your U.S. Senators immediately. While you can contact them here through CapWiz, we would strongly encourage you to call your Senators and DEMAND that they leave the filibuster alone! You can reach them by calling the U.S. Senate switchboard at 202-224-3121. And, please call Sen. Mitch McConnell (202-224-2541) and tell him to make NO DEALS to limit the use of the filibuster. Please note that we have included separate letters for Republicans and Democrat Senators. (Those letters can be e-mailed from the link below or, if your Senator has not yet established an e-mail address, printed and mailed.)

http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/alert/?alertid=62344801

joeschmoe
January 23, 2013, 07:46 PM
Doesn't it require a 2/3 vote to change senate rules? So without a super majority, they can't implement this plan, and with a super majority they dont' need it.

What's the point?

joeschmoe
January 23, 2013, 07:53 PM
this will mean removing/limiting the filibuster option


This is real. I wish it was horse.....

Acording to your links it is horse...

"Mr. Reid’s proposal would not eliminate the filibuster. Rather, he wants to prevent it from being used to thwart debates on bills and require that senators actually be present on the floor when they filibuster a bill, something that has not been necessary for years despite the mythology created by movies like “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.”"

hso
January 23, 2013, 10:03 PM
The reports appear to say that they want to change the rules for the filibuster to actually require officials to be present instead of the current approach of just making an appearance.

What's the direct relationship to RKBA here?

joeschmoe
January 23, 2013, 10:13 PM
Propaganda. To fuel the current wave of ignorance driven panic and prevent rational debate.

joeschmoe
January 23, 2013, 10:18 PM
Also, Senate rules can only be changed on the first day of each new Congress. Even though Reid is playing a game by not formally closing session, he can't implement this plan weeks after the first day without breaking Senate rules (which he can be censured for).

It's a hollow threat, nothing more.

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