whats a heavy weapon?


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dab102999
January 22, 2013, 06:15 PM
Watching the nighly news for tomorrows snow forcast and a news story broke in about a college shooting in Texas. Not much news givin but found it strage that they refered to the s.w.a.t. team dresses in camo carrying heavy weapons...(you could clearly see they were AR type rifels). Are they now only going to be refered to as assult weapons when it comes to public use...and heavy weapons when the police force use them???

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Skribs
January 22, 2013, 06:18 PM
Heavy weapons to me means at least a MMG or a large-caliber sniper rifle...maybe a shotgun. At least for general infantry, crew-served weapons or vehicle-mounted weapons are usually heavy weapons as well. I don't think I'd qualify an AR-15, with the possible exception of a .450+ model in full auto.

boatmanschneider
January 22, 2013, 06:25 PM
According to U.S. Army regulations 320-5 (AR 320-5) "heavy weapons" are all "weapons such as mortars, howitzers, guns, heavy machineguns and recoilless rifles which are usually part of infantry equipment."

boatmanschneider
January 22, 2013, 06:26 PM
Heavy weapons platoon is a term from military science which refers to an infantry platoon equipped with machine guns, mortars, rocket-propelled grenades, flamethrowers, grenade-launchers, anti-tank weapons, and/or other portable crew-served weapons.

igotta40
January 22, 2013, 06:33 PM
This

hso
January 22, 2013, 06:38 PM
The breathless moron on the TV is an ignorant boob.

josiewales
January 22, 2013, 07:42 PM
^ Like it! :) I would love to see a swat team clearing a house with a howitzer!

Texan Scott
January 22, 2013, 08:01 PM
A lady of my longtime aquaintance once broke her ex-husband's bookie's leg with an 8-lb sledgehammer and knocked him down a flight of stairs. He never threated her or tried to extort money from her again.

A sledgehammer is a fairly heavy weapon.

ngnrd
January 22, 2013, 08:19 PM
The breathless moron on the TV is an ignorant boob.

... hmmm... High Road?:scrutiny:

Arp32
January 22, 2013, 08:26 PM
The one that drives me nuts is when they call an AR a "high-powered rifle." Pretty much leaves .22LR as the only common "low powered" rifle

Adam the Gnome
January 22, 2013, 08:31 PM
My beretta 92 is fairly heavy, does that count? By that description they should have been thompsons with drums!

1 old 0311-1
January 22, 2013, 08:32 PM
Heavy weapon? An M-14, 15 twenty round mags, 200 rounds of belted ammo, going on a 6-8K patrol through the mountains. THAT is heavy.:o

dastardly-D
January 22, 2013, 08:37 PM
Heavy weapon,not a handgun,carbine rifle or light machine gun. More to the tune of crew served weapons,heavy machine guns/ tripod,mortars,artillery,rocket launchers. If it takes more than one man to carry or operate,it's heavy............

phil dirt
January 22, 2013, 08:50 PM
Bill O'Reilly is the first person I ever heard use the term "heavy weapons" when referring to AR-15s. Of course, he is an ignorant, bloviating bag of hot air when talking about guns.

Grassman
January 22, 2013, 09:03 PM
Typical media type getting it wrong again.

JFrame
January 22, 2013, 09:16 PM
I always envisioned a "heavy weapon" as being a crew-served weapon of some sort.


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22-rimfire
January 22, 2013, 10:23 PM
Bill O'Reilly is the first person I ever heard use the term "heavy weapons" when referring to AR-15s. Of course, he is an ignorant, bloviating bag of hot air when talking about guns.

Me too. Bill O does not "get it". That's a fact. To think he believes himself to have such a good grasp of the english language.

suemarkp
January 22, 2013, 10:38 PM
To me they would be along the lines of a 408 Chey Tac, 416 Barrett, 50 Barrett, or anything else in 50 BMG. Maybe rifles in 338 Lapua too.

hawmanai
January 22, 2013, 10:56 PM
According to U.S. Army regulations 320-5 (AR 320-5) "heavy weapons" are all "weapons such as mortars, howitzers, guns, heavy machineguns and recoilless rifles which are usually part of infantry equipment."

303tom
January 22, 2013, 11:18 PM
whats a heavy weapon ?......M1918, 24 lbs...............

1911 guy
January 23, 2013, 01:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hso
The breathless moron on the TV is an ignorant boob.

... hmmm... High Road?

Yes, it is High Road. Truth is truth, whether you find it palatable or not. The more unpalatable you find truth, the more you should examine your position.

ngnrd
January 23, 2013, 01:37 AM
Regardless of what a person's "position" is, name calling has nothing to do with the truth, and is pretty low road in my book.

VVelox
January 23, 2013, 02:49 AM
The one that drives me nuts is when they call an AR a "high-powered rifle." Pretty much leaves .22LR as the only common "low powered" rifle
Actually it is a high powered rifle. The reason for that is high powered just means it is not chambered in a black powered cartridge. The term is ancient and really needs to drop out of use as these days it is pointless and confuses most people.

foghornl
January 23, 2013, 09:28 AM
For me, a "Heavy Weapon" is things like 40MM cannons and larger.

or perhaps starting with things such as the Barret .50

tuj
January 23, 2013, 09:33 AM
I would say 'crew-served' weapons, although the Barrett is an interesting example. I'd add anything with an explosive component so RPG's and other light man-portable rockets would be included.

ball3006
January 23, 2013, 11:16 AM
It seems that a heavy weapon according to most members of this forun is anything that weighs over 4 pounds, rifle, and 1 pound, pistol. I hear comments about a gun being too heavy all the time....chris3

Madcap_Magician
January 23, 2013, 11:25 AM
Crew-served infantry weapons. M2 .50 cal., Mk19 40mm grenade launcher, Javelin antitank missile, TOW antitank missile, SMAW launchers, 60mm and 81mm mortars.

PRM
January 23, 2013, 11:39 AM
It seems that a heavy weapon according to most members of this forun is anything that weighs over 4 pounds, rifle, and 1 pound, pistol. I hear comments about a gun being too heavy all the time....chris3

Yep... My Colt Walker is a little on the heavy side. There was a reason they called them Dragoon size revolvers "Horse Pistols," and had saddle holsters.

JohnM
January 23, 2013, 11:46 AM
I packed a M1919A6 a couple million miles, it was a heavy sucker for a light machine gun.

MachIVshooter
January 23, 2013, 02:22 PM
Crew-served infantry weapons.

This. I wouldn't consider the Barrett M82, M240B or any other small arm that can be easily fielded by one man a "heavy weapon".

ironworkerwill
January 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
A m2 or larger is a heavy

Creature
January 23, 2013, 02:45 PM
I always thought of a 'heavy weapon' as being a crew served weapon...something so heavy as to require another man to carry the ammunition...the Mk19 grenade launcher or the Browning M2 comes to mind.

A Barret M82 rifle, at least in my mind, doesn't met the requirements of being called a heavy weapon.

Trent
January 23, 2013, 05:33 PM
Heavy weapon:

http://i.imgur.com/xR2C9.jpg

Last time we set it up, it took multiple people, was very heavy, and MUCH cussing and smashed fingers were involved. (Lack practice...)

Crash_Test_Dhimmi
January 23, 2013, 05:51 PM
Two Man lift

The Lone Haranguer
January 23, 2013, 06:52 PM
I think "heavy" weapons are those a man can't carry by himself. But the media makes up their own definitions.

Zardaia
January 23, 2013, 07:00 PM
The 240b would almost qualify. Yeah it can be carried by one man and in a pinch fired from the hip or even shoulder although kinda heavy for that. On the other hand there is an ag that carries spare barrel and extra ammo, and the gun is more effective from fixed position or at least using bipod. Officialy a gp or medium machine gun, but at the fire team lvl it 's often your "heavy" weapon.

Grassman
January 23, 2013, 07:23 PM
I think "heavy" weapons are those a man can't carry by himself. But the media makes up their own definitions.
Bingo!

DMK
January 23, 2013, 08:17 PM
Sounds like they confused "heavily armed" with "heavy weapons".

Ignorant boob. :D

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