Welcome to Citrus County, FL: We値l shoot you in the back


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Dean Weingarten
January 22, 2013, 05:41 PM
Well, congratulations to Citrus County, Florida for providing America with the next Daniel Harless-style video.

Harless, of course, was the Canton, Ohio cop who threatened to execute a law-abiding card-carrying good guy for having the audacity to lawfully exercise his right to carry the means with which to protect himself. Harless was eventually canned (links to videos can be found here) and subsequently won his job back if he could pass a medical screening.

A couple of days ago, this new video from Citrus County, Florida made its splash. Now it痴 gone viral. (Sorry we池e a little behind the curve. Believe it or not, we have a life outside of blogging.)


http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=5053

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jhb
January 22, 2013, 06:35 PM
shameful behavior from that cop. that guy should not be in police work. he isn't cut out for it. threatening to shoot that man in the back, while he was following orders and putting up no resistance. cussing up a storm, and misquoted the law and basically lying........what blew me away was cop boy kept saying it's all on video and cop boy was the one who got it all wrong. if cop boy can't see reality properly and doesn't even understand the laws he is supposed to enforce....... how can he be trusted with a gun and the ability to arrest/shoot people?? wow........ if i were sheriff i'd make sure, if the union wouldn't let me can his rear end, he'd never have any interaction with the public.

police work is hard and stressful, i respect my friends who are deputies and those who do good work and protect the public.......but the career seems to attract too many ego maniacs, control freaks, and impulse jumpers. exactly the kind of people who should not have the ability to arrest and shoot people.

TarDevil
January 22, 2013, 07:07 PM
The motorist was polite and displayed no obvious threat the the officer. He was also correct that he wasn't obligated to divulge he was carrying unless asked. But he probably would have avoided arrest if, as he also should have been taught, he had stayed in his car and kept his hands on the wheel.

Still no excuse for the threat of being shot in the back, but putting your hands near a gun during a traffic stop is bad medicine.

Hopefully, both the motorist and the deputy learned something.

gym
January 22, 2013, 07:46 PM
That's like the one deputy who I had called on a matter 2 years ago. He knew me, and that I am friends with other guys he knows, but refused to shake my hand because, "it's my gun hand", as if a shootout was about to occur any second. I just said "really", that's your gun hand so you can't shake my hand, because you may have to shoot someone right now on my lawn? He just dropped the conversation and told me that he would not write up a report.
It was similar to what the Huffington post did, we had a neighboor who I saved from a situation, and the officer who responded told her that she was lucky that I was there, because I had a pistol license, and if she heard noises again, I could get there faster than he could.
So she went on a rant, "never even seeing my gun" dragging people in off the street and telling them that I was going to shoot someone, and was a danger to the neighboorhood.
Unfortuante for her many of them knew me and every day for a few weeks I was having someone knock on my door to tell me more and more people were being warned about the guy with the gun.
I asked the local police to just tell her to cool it, but that wacko would not help, telling me she was exercising her right, which was nonsense, she wanted attention.
Eventually two of my neighboors went down and spoke to the sherriff and that put a stop to it, But you need to be careful who you even help now.
I called a local attorney who actually knew of the woman as she had several problems with neighboors, and was advised to "save my money", as she will lose interest and go on to the next victim, that was two years ago, I haven't spoken to her since, neither does anyone else.

r1derbike
January 22, 2013, 11:34 PM
Well. It certainly could have been handled much better. Much better. Everyone knows what escalated the stop, the officer saw his weapon unconcealed, which triggered the terrier mode. I am in no way condoning the foul-mouthed, shoot you in the back Rambo tactics, but he did let his carry weapon be seen, and that is a violation. He should have stayed in the van, given the officer his license, registration, and carry permit, if required to do so, and the "apparent" expired tags issue would have taken care of itself, peacefully.

This officer needs this video reviewed by judicial peers. His foul mouth, and threat to shoot him in the back, is unacceptable behavior from any officer.

I was as disgusted as everyone else.

EDIT: Just as as an aside, we in AR are required to inform the officer we are carrying, and produce our license, registration, and carry permit. I would never exit my vehicle, unless directed to do so. Some officers may feel safer securing the weapon for the duration of the stop (here), that is their choice, but I don't like anyone handling my carry sidearm, as they might not be familiar with it. I really feel for the treatment this poor guy received, but in hindsight, if he gets to keep his carry permit, he needs to dress for concealment. Just my .02.

mgmorden
January 22, 2013, 11:50 PM
but he did let his carry weapon be seen, and that is a violation.

Florida passed a law last year clarifying that the inadvertent display of a concealed weapon is not a crime.

Specifically,

790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

r1derbike
January 22, 2013, 11:56 PM
Florida passed a law last year clarifying that the inadvertent display of a concealed weapon is not a crime.

Specifically,Thank you, I stand corrected. It is a violation in AR.

Al Thompson
January 23, 2013, 09:13 AM
I don't see this disgusting behavior in line with THR's mission.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=472825

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