I was in a gun shop today, and saw a springfield 9mm pistol it was built like my 1911 except smaller. It had a 3 inch bull barrel black lower with walnut grips and a ss upper. It was used, but real clean. I think it was called a EMP anybody had one or shot one. Just looking for info on it. They were asking 1200 seemed a little high on price, but I dont know. I thought I would like it because I love the single action trigger on my Springfield 1911. I was looking for a browning hi-power. Anybody know how they would compare?
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January 23, 2013, 07:18 PM
$1200 is a little steep for a used EMP, since that's about what I think most people pay for a new one.
But, price aside they're the sweetest subcompact 9mm 1911s you can buy. I love mine, and I've yet to hear a bad review from another EMP owner.
January 23, 2013, 07:36 PM
Yep - I paid between $1100 and $1200 for a new 9mm EMP, but that was before the panic buying.
Mine has the grey G10 grips and it's a real looker IMO.
The pistol has been very reliable and accurate. I don't have a ton of rounds through it, but enough to be comfortable carrying it as my primary CCW.
The only "issue" I have had with it is that my primer strikes are a bit off center. I believe that indicates that the barrel link may need to be replaced to better aline the firing pin to the barrel when in battery. A search on google reveals that this is not uncommon and Springfield will remedy the problem if you send the pistol back. Mine has never failed to fire, so for me it is a non-issue.
January 23, 2013, 08:13 PM
I have one and it had to make a trip back to Springfield for a reliability tune up. Since then it's shoots everything. I replaced the sights for a better picture. Novak put on wide cut plain rear and white outline night sight up front.
Now it's just about perfect.
January 23, 2013, 10:00 PM
I have an emp 9 on order from Buds. The price is less than $1,100 new including shipping and ffl costs. I am still waiting for it. I have shot this gun and I really like it. This is one fine gun.
January 24, 2013, 08:07 AM
I have one in .40S&W with 500 trouble free rounds down the pipe. (except that the grip screws need tightening every one in a while)
$1200 for a used one is a high price, I paid less than $1100 new.
January 24, 2013, 08:32 AM
This is kind of a reach gun for me, as I've never had more than $1k to spend on a gun, and doubt I ever will, but if you have the cash, another to look at is the Dan Wesson ECO, which is a proper Officer's size gun instead of the 3"-barrel Defender size. It's $1600 or so, but much nicer fit and finish.
Which is not to take anything away from the EMP, which is a fine gun with Springfield's bulletproof warranty.
January 24, 2013, 08:42 AM
Thanks for the info
January 24, 2013, 09:09 AM
Shot a friends EMP awhile back. Smooth shooting and a nice feel to it. Another time took two first time lady shooters out. They tried an assortment of other guns. The EMP was their first choice by far
January 24, 2013, 11:25 AM
I have an EMP in 9mm. It had to go back to SA for several problems. The gun still has a nasty habit of stripping the top round in the magazine forward to the point where it contacts the ramp. Makes it a SOB to remove a partly full mag to top it off. SA has tried to fix the problem, but to no avail.
January 24, 2013, 02:35 PM
The main thing about them is that they are not just a 1911 with a short barrel and a 9mm chamber/barrel. They were designed from the ground up to work with short cartridges, like the 9mm and .40, rather than the longer COAL of the .45 ACP (or 10mm). They are supposed to, therefore, be more reliable than a comparably-sized 9mm 1911.
.40 EMP's can be had new for about your price or less. 9mm's seem to have been out of stock everywhere for months. That may explain the premium.
Just One Shot
January 24, 2013, 02:52 PM
Wearing one as I type this. Great gun but that's too high for a used one. A local shop sold a brand new one for, if I remember correctly, $1150.00 + tax.
A few months later the guy wanted something else and put it on consignment at the same shop. They had it listed for $950.00 and it wasn't fired much at all.
I haven't had any issues with mine. It's great for CCing and it has an awsome trigger. You should be able to find a nice used one any where from $850.00 to $1000.00 depending on the condition.
January 24, 2013, 03:01 PM
If you really want it, don't hesitate to attempt to negotiate for it. As Americans, we often don't get an opportunity to haggle over prices for everyday things. Local gun stores can be an exception, as they are commonly mom&pop businesses. If the employee you talk to won't negotiate on the price, ask if the store owner is there. My favorite LGS can be haggled with, but only with the owner. The employees are not empowered to make deals. My favorite way of going about this is as follows: "hi, I really want an EMP, but I was wondering if maybe I could get it for X amount. Bud's (or whomever) is offering it for X price brand new, however I would rather support local business and buy from you. If we could make a deal on this gun I would really appreciate it". This has worked for me many times. Often they would rather make the sale right then and there than lose your business. Don't get greedy, offer a realistic price. Be polite and let them know you want to support their business.
January 24, 2013, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the info
I bought my EMP9 a few months ago NIB $1048... Used $1200 is too much. You can find an EMP online "new" around that price. Guess I got lucky w/$1048 NIB :)
Absolutely love my EMP9!
January 24, 2013, 03:58 PM
See them for 900 used or 1000 used with extra mags, new sights etc.
A used one is on my list eventually.
January 24, 2013, 09:34 PM
Superb guns (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=115220&stc=1&d=1265772620), but as others have said, $1200 is too much for a used one, no matter how nice.
Peter M. Eick
January 27, 2013, 10:58 AM
I bought mine maybe 12 months back and it was $1084 out the door as I remember. It is a good gun, very reliable, easy to shoot and no real issues with it. I rotate carrying it and have a VMII holster for it and it rides well.
I like mine enough that I am now looking into a trip back to Springfield for some customizing. I am thinking of bobtailing the frame, a bit of checkering and possibly some other cosmetic customizing. The frame is the big issue though. It is just sharp enough to jab me in my side occasionally when I carry IWB. Not a big issue, but enough that it would be worth the customizing trip.
I highly recommend it and several folks I shoot with have bought one because they tried mine.
January 27, 2013, 11:04 AM
Good little gun, heavy in 40, and the sights need changing, it does recoil a bit but overall is a nice carry gun, too nice, I traded mine for an xds and cash. You should not pay more than 9-950 for a used one.
January 27, 2013, 12:11 PM
I've got a little less than a thousand rounds through my EMP-9, but I had to send it back to Springfield for a few issues.
The pistol came from the factory with an extractor that put absolutely no tension on the casing. I fixed this one myself by tensioning the extractor. I don't believe Springfield test fires these pistols before they leave the factory. After I fixed this issue, I haven't had a single malfunction with it.
The hammer was impacting the sear while passing by the intercept notch. This one didn't cause any issues while firing the pistol, but I didn't like it being there. Springfield fixed this one.
There is also the issue of the top round in the mag impacting the ejector when inserting a loaded mag with the slide locked back. I say "is" because Springfield didn't resolve this issue when I sent it back to them. I sent a note along with the pistol that stated the issues, but I guess they forgot to take care of this one. Now when a mag is inserted, the brass on the rear of the casing on the top of the mag has an indentation that matches the edge of the ejector. I think I may take a file to it and shave a little metal off myself.
On the note I sent with the pistol, I asked that they pin the ejector in place (I don't like the idea of a glued ejector, especially when the top round in the mag impacts it every insertion), and they did this for me, for free.
So, I don't know that I would recommend this pistol to someone who wasn't a gun guy, or wasn't willing to go through some hassle to get it working right, but it is easy to shoot accurately, and it shoots surprisingly soft for a pistol this size. After I put about a thousand rounds through it (after I fix the ejector issue), I'll consider carrying it on occasion if it functions right from now on.