How Bad Was it for RKBA After Virginia Tech?


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CmdrSlander
January 23, 2013, 11:55 PM
I was not an active part of the Gun Rights movement at the time and was busy with work and school. How viciously was the 2A attacked following the shooting at Virginia Tech and were there calls for handgun control?

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hogshead
January 23, 2013, 11:56 PM
Nothing like today.The last time it was this crazy was when Bozo got elected.

CmdrSlander
January 24, 2013, 12:00 AM
Nothing like today.The last time it was this crazy was when Bozo got elected.
Yep, I remember '08, that was nuts.

jamesbeat
January 24, 2013, 12:02 AM
Essentially it was the usual rhetoric; people who support the Second Amendment were portrayed as reckless extremists who were vicariously responsible for the deaths of those kids.

I think they went after pistols that were semi auto versions of machine pistols.

The antis love a good massacre.

CmdrSlander
January 24, 2013, 12:04 AM
Essentially, ot was the usual rhetoric; people who support the Second Amendment were portrayed as reckless extremists who were vicariously responsible for the deaths of those kids.

The antis love a good massacre.
Things have changed a lot since then. The dialogue now is so reserved and thoughtful.

Oh wait... sorry, I was dreaming there for a second :barf:

mrvco
January 24, 2013, 12:06 AM
How does all this compare to the run up to the '94 AWB?

CmdrSlander
January 24, 2013, 12:09 AM
How does all this compare to the run up to the '94 AWB?
I read that a lot of the pro-2A rhetoric was the same, just less of it. Many guys made the same "The revolution begins here! The chair is against the wall!" claims and then promptly complied once the law came to pass. This is why we must defeat it legally, as unlike the founding fathers, our lives, fortunes, and sacred honor, are worth more to us than what the opposition is trying to take... this time.

CmdrSlander
January 24, 2013, 12:16 AM
Anybody else?

rcmodel
January 24, 2013, 12:25 AM
This is still not as bad as it was in the 60's following the JFK, King, RFK assassinations.

But we had none of the Internet foolishness then to tell everybody and his dog that never owned a gun before, and had no intentions of owning one, to run out and strip the shelves bare at Walmart & Cabalas then.

Oh wait!
We didn't have Walmart & Cabala's then either.

At any rate, the The Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 was the biggest change in firearms laws in my lifetime.

The Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act of 1994 following the the 101 California Street shootings, and the 1993 Waco Siege was just a banana peel on the footpath compared to the 68 GCA.

This one, this time, has a chance of being a game changer for all of us before it's over.
Especially if another wacko nut case kills a school full of kids or a wacko religious cult uses AR-15's in a firefight with law enforcement just before the vote on the new bill.

rc

1911 guy
January 24, 2013, 12:27 AM
There was a little more talk about mental health if I recall. And it went away (the discussion in general) after a few weeks. The biggest difference between then and now is a party in majority control that has historically wanted to infringe on rights they deem unnecessary. Wait. That's both parties, just different rights.

MarshallDodge
January 24, 2013, 12:45 AM
I was around for 94 and from what I remember this time around is much worse as far as the frenzy is concerned. While I had an AR, and knew a couple other guys that owned one, most of the time when I took it to range people would ask me what kind of machine gun that it was. Also, most gun owners had 1911s and revolvers. Higher capacity "wondernines" were in their infancy so not a lot of people were concerned about a magazine limit.

I received a call from a friend a couple weeks before the bill passed telling me that it was going to pass and I didn't believe him. He said that he was going to buy 10 forged AR lowers from Eagle Arms (now Armalite) for $50 a piece and wanted to know if I was interested. Since I didn't think anything would happen, I didn't buy any.

He had his FFL and went to the next gun show after the bill passed. Ended up selling five of the lowers for $400 each. From 94 through 04 there was never a shortage of pre-ban stuff. Sure the prices went up some but there were always guns and magazines available.

While there is a lot of stuff floating around on the errornet, it has become a valuable tool in getting out the word and setting the politicians straight. Since 1994 there has been a huge surge in gun owners that enjoy shooting guns with capacities higher than 10 rounds. This makes it much tougher on the gun grabbers this time around.

XD 45acp
January 24, 2013, 05:54 AM
As happened this time in NY, here right after Tech, the Roanoke Times listed all the CCW in their paper. I heard some rumbling about it, but not as much as when the Journal News did it to NY'ers.

inclinebench
January 24, 2013, 09:26 AM
After Va Tech, the media tried to come after the police and university. Cho's guns were not as "scary looking" as an AR, plus Cho had sent a video to NBC showing how clearly nuts he was. Additionally, Teachers and students complained about Cho for quite some time, but the "New River Valley Mental Health Associates" that screened him said he was A-OK and not someone to worry about.

Lanza has less documentation, and the police were never mentioned as a problem, nor was the schools lockdown policy...that leaves the scary guns. Plus, second term for the pres allows him to not worry about re-election, so he took full advantage of the crisis, as his administration has always preached.

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