Five Round Pistol Magazines?


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Leonard Pone
January 24, 2013, 03:04 PM
I live in New Jersey (I know, I should move, but given that moving is not an option) and I just discovered that some geniuses in the State Assembly are trying to pass a 5 round limit on pistol magazines (AB 3664).

Based on a quick perusal of the internet, it looks to me like there is no such thing as a 5 round magazine for most pistols and thus, this would act as a de facto ban on all semi auto pistols.

Does anyone know if anyone anywhere is making 5 round pistol magazines? I would greatly appreciate any info you could provide to help me fight this last assault on the battered, bruised and beaten Liberty of the people of New Jersey.

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el Godfather
January 24, 2013, 03:09 PM
Might cap an regular mag to 5 shot. If I was in your shoes (which I am luckily not) I would get 1911 in limited mag cap or just switch or revolver. Given that this ridiculous bill passes. It surprises me why Americans send folks to govern. I have noticed this Obama wagon has gun control agenda as one of their top priorities. Too bad. It may have trickle down effect in the entire world.

carsten1911
January 24, 2013, 03:11 PM
Hi,

the best help for your stated cause is to pass on the simple word:
"No gunmaker produces 5-round magazines. Full stop. End of message."

Carsten

Leonard Pone
January 24, 2013, 03:16 PM
Saddly, NJ has very perverse laws regarding "defacing guns". This law appears to be written in such a way that altering mags might well violate that provision.

If it were to pass, I am thinking a S&W .357. That said, I am hoping it will not come to that

The Lone Haranguer
January 24, 2013, 03:23 PM
Might cap an regular mag to 5 shot.
They will have that covered, because plugs or caps can be removed and the original capacity restored.

LNK
January 24, 2013, 03:26 PM
Hi,

the best help for your stated cause is to pass on the simple word:
"No gunmaker produces 5-round Pistol magazines. Full stop. End of message."

Carsten

Fixed it for you.....

LNK

tuj
January 24, 2013, 07:49 PM
my bullseye pistols have 5 round mags

Leonard Pone
January 24, 2013, 08:38 PM
Now I see that Senator Feinstein has introduced a bill to ban Mini 14s. My Mini 14 is the only firearm I own that takes a 5 round mag.

Quincy12
January 24, 2013, 08:42 PM
Last time I checked, most wheel guns hold 6 rounds; does this also cover them? Are you supposed to put plugs in an 8 round S & W?

Ridiculous

USAF_Vet
January 24, 2013, 08:44 PM
the standard XDs .45 mags are 5 round mags also. But traditionally, most manufacturers do not make low capacity mags for anything other than pocket guns.

Dan-O
January 25, 2013, 12:41 AM
Kahr PM45

forindooruseonly
January 25, 2013, 01:31 AM
Hmm. I guess I could carry around my S&W Model 52, those mags only hold 5 rounds. Wouldn't be too confident in the powderpuff wadcutter loads it prefers for stopping power though. It'd be really big for carry, too...

LUCKYDAWG13
January 25, 2013, 08:41 AM
the XDS in 45acp has a 5 round magazine

ku4hx
January 25, 2013, 09:11 AM
Push comes to shove, I'll use one of several five round revolvers and/or my 870 shotgun. The 870 has a 20" barrel and holds five in the magazine. Not a scientific test by any standard, but if its effect on a human target is similar to what it is on a large Black Diamond watermelon the fight will be over very quickly.

If significant demand for 5 round magazines become a reality, they'll be available by the ton. That's Economics 101 supply and demand, and if and when the demand spikes, so will the supply on a slightly delayed basis.

Kiln
January 25, 2013, 02:07 PM
A complete ban on handguns is unconstitutional. So just make a law saying that handguns can only carry five rounds. That is more or less a ban anyways and makes owning a handgun almost useless.

tarosean
January 25, 2013, 02:14 PM
Google didn't show any specifics just they wanted to lower capacity. Course you would know more than I.


I don't think I'd put up with the girth of a double stack semi auto for 5rds.

Gary A
January 25, 2013, 02:19 PM
I thought one of the hallmarks of the Supreme Court decision was to affirm that individuals have a constitutional right to own firearms that are "in common usage". Five round semi-automatics are not in common usage. New Jersey simply seems to be in a frenzy to keep up with and exceed their larger neighbor. Political inferiority complex that has nothing to do with anything except deliberately sticking a sharp stick into the eye of many thousands of law abiding and tax paying citizens. The working man in New Jersey need to realize the democrats are not his friends if he values liberty.

Inebriated
January 25, 2013, 02:26 PM
Kahr PM45 (CM45 coming out soon... cheaper option)
Springfield XDs .45

If legislation is passed, manufacturers will likely adapt.

ku4hx
January 25, 2013, 03:54 PM
I thought one of the hallmarks of the Supreme Court decision was to affirm that individuals have a constitutional right to own firearms that are "in common usage". Five round semi-automatics are not in common usage. New Jersey simply seems to be in a frenzy to keep up with and exceed their larger neighbor. Political inferiority complex that has nothing to do with anything except deliberately sticking a sharp stick into the eye of many thousands of law abiding and tax paying citizens. The working man in New Jersey need to realize the democrats are not his friends if he values liberty.
Before it's all settled, the Supreme Court will have their say.

hoodfu
January 25, 2013, 04:13 PM
Same thing just happened in NY with the 7 round limit. It's imperitive to become politically active in times like this. Don't doubt for a second that it can be passed in states like these. That said, if they want to limit things to 5 shots, your best trade-off is a S&W 500 magnum with a 2" barrel. You might not hit your attacker, but he won't be able to see or hear anything after the second shot.

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 04:28 PM
Quincy, check out my poll in the revolver thread "5 or 6?" The majority of people who carry revolvers carry a j-frame or similar, which is a 5-shot revolver. Also, these bans usually don't apply to internal magazines.

The only things I can think of are weapons like a sub-compact 1911 (commander or officer, whatever it is) or a similar single-stack .45 ACP (like the XDs).

2wheels
January 25, 2013, 04:37 PM
Quincy, check out my poll in the revolver thread "5 or 6?" The majority of people who carry revolvers carry a j-frame or similar, which is a 5-shot revolver. Also, these bans usually don't apply to internal magazines.

The only things I can think of are weapons like a sub-compact 1911 (commander or officer, whatever it is) or a similar single-stack .45 ACP (like the XDs).
Even an Officers framed 1911 holds at least 6 rounds (most ship with 7 rounders), wouldn't qualify.

I'll be interested to see how magazine makers respond to this and NYs 7 round law if in fact they do become law.

Inebriated
January 25, 2013, 05:05 PM
I'll be interested to see how magazine makers respond to this and NYs 7 round law if in fact they do become law.

My guess? Fixed 7-round mags that still fit a full-sized magwell.

I see no reason why that wouldn't work.

SullyVols
January 25, 2013, 07:37 PM
500 S&W

Now no one will survive a gunshot wound.

HKGuns
January 26, 2013, 11:53 AM
Threads like this really annoy me. Are you just sitting back waiting for them to take your rights away and looking for options or are you doing something about it? Writing your reps, your Gov.....contributing to the NRA-ILA?

You can move too. I know I would if I lived in such a backward thinking State. All of these would be my first options before searching for 5 round pistol magazines.

Inebriated
January 26, 2013, 07:37 PM
Threads like this really annoy me. Are you just sitting back waiting for them to take your rights away and looking for options or are you doing something about it? Writing your reps, your Gov.....contributing to the NRA-ILA?

Expecting legislation doesn't mean OP is not doing anything to try and stop it.

45ACPBMW
January 26, 2013, 08:30 PM
I left CA after retiring from the Navy, moved to SC. Here, we just go out in our back yard & do what we want to do - no talk in the State House about any mag limits.
Oh darn - I just thought - if any liberals are reading our post, they'll all want to move here and try to change things!

CPshooter
January 26, 2013, 08:32 PM
XDs .45, PM45, and PPS .40 all have 5-round flush-fitting magazines.

wgaynor
January 26, 2013, 08:39 PM
They can ban it all they want... doesn't mean people will comply. Doesn't stop drunk driving, drug use, speeding, robberies, or jay walking.

Would suck being caught with it, but then again... rather be judged than buried.

Stringfellow
January 26, 2013, 09:21 PM
This is the kind of ridiculousness we get stuck with, when one side won't compromise (NRA) to agree on something reasonable.

But then again, remember that the NRA is a trade association. They will love the fact that people will have to go out and buy an entire new class of firearms. And then once they have milked that, they will carve out loopholes that will maximize the prices and profitability of potential gun sales.

Inebriated
January 27, 2013, 06:26 AM
:rolleyes:

ccsniper
January 27, 2013, 07:00 AM
It seems like all the gun control states are trying to outdo one another on ridiculous laws, or are they trying to goad the people into doing something to stop it? Sounds like they are trying at trouble.

SullyVols
January 27, 2013, 02:50 PM
I'm sure popular gun companies will offer solutions - but I'm being serious about a 500 S&W.

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