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BHP FAN
January 25, 2013, 01:24 AM
this is saweeet!

http://www.therightscoop.com/great-new-ad-by-glock-wrong-girl/

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helitack32f1
January 25, 2013, 01:31 AM
Very nice! Wish I had that guy as a cop in my town!

1911 guy
January 25, 2013, 01:49 AM
Funny yet on message.

Ms_Dragon
January 25, 2013, 02:10 AM
Damn I LOVE that ad!

And I'm kinda tickled by that dandy little gun safe under the bed as well.

BHP FAN
January 25, 2013, 02:19 AM
me too! I might have to get one of those!

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 02:31 AM
Looks like a gunvault. I have the multi duluxe version. It's a nice safe for access control. Has its limitations, but so do all safes.

Really like this ad. Also know that it probably didn't take Glock long to find a gun guy with a creeper beard ;)

BHP FAN
January 25, 2013, 02:32 AM
is that safe what they call ''biometric''?

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 02:39 AM
I don't think that's the biometric version. I wouldn't trust a biometric safe (I'd be afraid of a false negative). It has four buttons, and you can press one or multiple buttons at a time for the combination. Essentially one button for each finger on one hand (sans thumb). So your combination could be 1-2-3-4 or it could be 12-34-14-23, or even 1234-1234-1234. The advantage is that unlike a numpad or a dial, you can easily access it in the dark or without looking.

http://www.gunvault.com/

A thief who knows what he's doing can break into the safe. If it's not bolted down it can easily be stolen. The top can be ripped off, exposing the controls. With a bit of determination and some power tools you can break into it. Anyone with a round lockpicker can pick the mechanical key back-up. However, your average thief will probably be deterred from stealing your guns (especially if it is bolted or at least cabled down), and if someone breaks in during the night they will most likely not access your guns quickly...but you could. (Granted, they can grab your kitchen knife and stab you in your sleep, but they can't get your guns).

Manco
January 25, 2013, 03:21 AM
It's amusing, but probably not the most believable example of a home invasion.... ;)

And I'm kinda tickled by that dandy little gun safe under the bed as well.

I'd recommend a safe that has an all-mechanical push-button lock for quick access instead, such as the following:

http://www.fas1safe.com/
https://www.ftknox.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=59
http://www.vlineind.com/Products.php?category_id=1

All of these are equipped with a Simplex lock, which is extremely reliable, requires no batteries (which can fail) or backup keys, and is just as quick to unlock. On top of that, these safes are far more sturdy than GunVaults, for what it's worth.

BHP FAN
January 25, 2013, 03:29 AM
Mine is a simple key lock.

Manco
January 25, 2013, 03:52 AM
Mine is a simple key lock.

Those work fine, too, as long as you can keep the key both handy and secure at the same time. Some folks wear the key around the neck, for example.

The only type of quick-access lock that does NOT make sense to me is the highly popular electronic type (push-button or biometric), since they're not reliable enough to be the sole means of access, and require you to keep a backup key handy (and secure). If you have to do the latter anyway and do not mind, then why not skip the expensive electronics altogether and use a simple key lock? Those who really want a push-button safe and don't mind paying for the convenience (and won't forget the combination while under stress) should go for the Simplex-based ones.

The foregoing is just my opinion, although it is based on the pragmatic reasons I just described. Obviously electronic safes work fine for many people despite my misgivings, but I for one feel better using something that makes more sense and is more reliable.

Hacker15E
January 25, 2013, 06:04 AM
Good ad. I liked the use of the safe in the scenario, too. Well done.

ku4hx
January 25, 2013, 07:26 AM
That was my wife six years ago. The only difference is she used a model 23 and the guy turned and ran.

beatledog7
January 25, 2013, 08:27 AM
A very PC ad, but it makes the point, to a point. The safe is unnecessary if she lives alone and is not at risk of having the gun be discovered by a child or prohibited person. Some will beg to differ, I know, but to me it unnecessarily adds a layer of complexity and a time delay to her ability to respond. The depiction of the robber/rapist fainting when he sees the muzzle of a gun pointed at him is unrealistic and idealistic; it implies that just having the gun--even unloaded, one could think--will deter the intruder. A better but less PC version would have the guy rush her and getting a triple tap to the chest and head.

There's another Glock ad that's similarly weakened in its attempt to be PC. A guy in a mask enters a diner with a shotgun and demands everyone comply with his attempt to rob them, then stumbles, at which point everyone in the place, badges now in evidence, draws on him. Obviously he surrenders at once--as in the girl at home ad, nobody fires. Then, in case viewers miss the badges, the camera pulls back and pans to reveal a banner posted in the diner--a banner welcoming patrons to a LEO convention in town. That's good to a point as well, but why the LEO convention? Why not simply present all the diner patron as CCW holders exercising their rights? OK, it's trying to make the point about Glocks being popular among LE agencies, but still, it's an opportunity missed.

Good ads, but Glock shies away from depicting actually firing a pistol in SD in one and implies that only LEOs should have guns in the other. In both cases, the message is weakened.

FAS1
January 25, 2013, 09:09 AM
Would have been better if she had the gun on her when she walked up to the door the first time, but I'm sure Gunvault paid a few bucks for the exposure.

Would have been quite different if he just busted in without knocking. A lot of good that Glock would have done locked in the bedroom.

While I do have a home defense gun in my quick access safe in my bedroom, I also always at least pocket carry around the house. Oh yea, Glock doesn't have a pocket size gun! :)

hk-sigman
January 25, 2013, 09:17 AM
Unlikely to happen like that but it does make the point and the girl is good to watch for 2 minutes ;)

GAMALOT
January 25, 2013, 09:45 AM
My wife watched and said, "If it was here it would have been a bloody mess".

She thinks the minute he breaks down the door she has the right to protect her castle.

I can't say she is wrong.

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 11:08 AM
FAS1, maybe, except the only way I knew it was a GV safe is because I have one. I think it was a PC bit.

Manco, you're right that a push-button safe might be a better option, but I don't consider it likely that the electronic lock on my safe will fail. I would not want to fumble around with keys or a dial in the middle of the night.

MedWheeler
January 25, 2013, 11:18 AM
Two things missing on her strategy: a deadbolt lock on the door, and her yelling to him before he enters that, if he does, he will be shot.
Still, an easy video on the eyes.. can't put my finger on why I had to watch it twice. :D

And R. Lee Ermey as an EMT? Now that's funny!

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 11:40 AM
Still, an easy video on the eyes.. can't put my finger on why I had to watch it twice.

I'd make a joke about the beautiful curves...of the gun...but it's a Glock so that joke won't work.

her yelling to him before he enters that, if he does, he will be shot.

Some people believe this is the best bet, others do not. If you call out that you are armed, the BG knows where you are and can prepare for you being armed. So it might scare him off, it might give him tactical knowledge. I wouldn't call the way they did this an error.

mooner
January 25, 2013, 11:51 AM
It is not as PC as you guys think - its just more subtle. You don't see her fire the gun, but the guy is strapped down on a stretcher and the Gunny is a paramedic. I don't think the guy survived this break in. You just have to pay attention to notice it. :neener:

GAMALOT
January 25, 2013, 12:04 PM
I agree Mooner, They did not show the graphics but that dude would be a dead guy 9 times out of ten and completely justifiable.

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 12:33 PM
I just assumed they were treating him because he passed out.

GAMALOT
January 25, 2013, 12:37 PM
It would have been better if they showed the Coroner's car instead of the EMT's.

allaroundhunter
January 25, 2013, 02:32 PM
That was not a biometric safe, though GunVault does make that MiniVault in a biometric configuration. That was their standard model.

I use a Gunvault MicroVault and it is great.

I wonder if my Gen2 G19 will scare a burglar into unconsciousness also? :neener:

allaroundhunter
January 25, 2013, 02:34 PM
Two things missing on her strategy: a deadbolt lock on the door, and her yelling to him before he enters that, if he does, he will be shot.

Deadbolt? Yes, she needed one.

Yelling to tell him that he is going to get shot? Not, IMO.

The message to him not to come in should have been clear by her not opening the door to check who was there (a very good move). If the robber had been armed, her yelling at him telling him that he was going to get shot could lead to him firing through the door first.

Sit back, call 911, and if the BG comes in.... stop the threat. No more words are needed.

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 02:42 PM
AAH, good point. Calling 911 first would have been a good idea.

hq
January 25, 2013, 02:45 PM
I wonder if my Gen2 G19 will scare a burglar into unconsciousness also? :neener:

Sorry, no, that's a new Gen4 feature that's not available for earlier models. ;)

allaroundhunter
January 25, 2013, 02:49 PM
Sorry, no, that's a new Gen4 feature that's not available for earlier models. ;)

Dang.... I wonder how much Glock's perfection gunsmiths will charge me to add that feature?.... :uhoh:

GAMALOT
January 25, 2013, 03:00 PM
I have to kick this in and ask, Exactly when did we all become so helpless that we need to rely upon the 911 emergency services to come and bail us out because we had a knock on our door?

I think far too many of us are willing to rely upon the police to do the jobs we are all responsible for ourselves. Calling 911 from where I live would the equivalent of a fart in the wind. Calling 911 and saying I had a knock on the door and no one was there would likely elicit a rather rude response from the 911 operator.

Those of you who feel there should be a cop at every corner to respond to every situation have no business having guns and no right to complain about outrageous taxes and out of control government spending. I suppose only those who live in the country will understand this but I call 911 after I finish doing my job.

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 03:05 PM
"Someone is trying to break into my house" at the point where he starts adamantly banging on the door and jiggling the handle trying to get in.

Calling 911 has several benefits...
1) Helps establish yourself as the victim who is defending him/herself.
2) Brings the calvalry, because while you have the right to defend yourself, it's a lot easier if there are a lot more guns on your side.

GAMALOT
January 25, 2013, 03:12 PM
She had about 2 seconds from the door handle jiggling to the door flying open. I guess if you live where there is a Calvary to come it might be a viable remedy. Out here where I am the cop is probably 30-45 minutes away if both of them are on duty that night.

allaroundhunter
January 25, 2013, 03:18 PM
I have to kick this in and ask, Exactly when did we all become so helpless that we need to rely upon the 911 emergency services to come and bail us out because we had a knock on our door?

The first one to call the cops is considered the victim 99% of the time by first responders.

Also, it wasn't the knock on the door that would get me to call 911, it was the fact that after the knock there was no answer and then it happened again. That usually means that a person is trying to get you to open the door without seeing them - they are there to cause trouble.

It doesn't hurt to call the police. Exactly why do you think that calling them is asking to get "bailed out"? That is not my intentions when calling the police. I would like them to show up before anything goes bad, but they are not there to bail me out. I am confident that I can take care of myself better than a police officer can.

However, I would love for them to arrive before I have to engage an assailant because it would save me a lot of money in legal fees...

I guess if you live where there is a Calvary to come it might be a viable remedy. Out here where I am the cop is probably 30-45 minutes away if both of them are on duty that night.

And what exactly is the harm of calling them to get them on their way? If it turns out to be nothing, you will still be on the line with them and you can apologize and explain the situation. If you have to shoot, then at least law enforcement is already on their way.

I understand that when seconds count the police are only minutes away...but some people actually use that as a reason not to call the police? That is missing the point of the statement.

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 03:24 PM
I will agree that sometimes it just isn't possible to get to 911 before you can defend yourself (IMO, smart phones are actually a part of the problem here, it would be a lot easier on an older phone...or if we went to the british system of 999), but if you can, you should.

GAMALOT
January 25, 2013, 03:31 PM
I guess we see things differently and like I said, those who live in rural areas will better understand my point. I don't want the cops coming unless it is absolutely necessary. With so few on duty in such a big area I don't want one flying to my aid unless I am positive I need him. I get late night knocks on my door all the time out here from folks who hit deer or had and accident and I answer the door with protection every time. Cell phones are useless so it comes with the territory.

Skribs
January 25, 2013, 03:34 PM
But there's a difference between someone who knocks on your door and is in plain view, vs. someone who acts suspicious and gets angry about being denied access to your domain.

GAMALOT
January 25, 2013, 03:39 PM
You need to see some of the characters I get who just walked a mile or more in lousy weather and after an accident that has them bloody.

Your point is well taken but I have to go with what works for me out here. There has been more than a few times when I did not want to even open the door after seeing what/who was knocking.

ifit
January 25, 2013, 06:27 PM
cool commercial, not a huge glock fan myself...but after seeing gunny at the end of that video a 1911 would have been even cooler.

josiewales
January 25, 2013, 07:08 PM
Hysterical!

MedWheeler
January 25, 2013, 10:32 PM
Gamalot, this girl's apartment didn't look like it was in a rural area with two cops in a 500-square mile county. Most of us were actually commenting on the scenario given, not on any possible scenario.

PGT
January 25, 2013, 10:52 PM
after the first knock and nobody there, gun and a phone should have come out. after the second knock and nobody there, a call to 911. Jiggling of the lock......911 on the phone and gun raised = perfect response. Door open and intruder NOT turning tail or immediately dropping to the ground = ______________ (insert your local/state laws about defense in the home.

Manco
January 26, 2013, 02:31 PM
A better but less PC version would have the guy rush her and getting a triple tap to the chest and head.

This would be much better because it shows both the bad guys and the good guys what could happen. It should also be paired with a video showing what could happen (e.g. rape, murder, both) if the woman didn't have a gun. The actual video is just a silly cartoon that trivializes a potentially deadly scenario. I realize that it's an ad, but it does go a bit far in PCness.

Deadbolt? Yes, she needed one.

Deadbolted doors are easy to kick in unless the frame is reinforced.

osteodoc08
January 26, 2013, 02:44 PM
Should put 2 in the chest as soon as he busted through. A little unPC, but now I'm gonna be stuck paying his hospital bill and hotel stay. That being said, anyone that carries for protection needs to be mentally prepared for deadly force, I don't think she was quite there mentally.....

powder
January 26, 2013, 03:22 PM
Good times!

Impureclient
January 26, 2013, 03:40 PM
Thought for sure seeing him waking up it was going to be a copy of the Pulp Fiction scene with Zed in the basement. That would be a commercial.

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