Texas to soon allow open carry. Maybe.


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black_powder_Rob
January 25, 2013, 08:25 PM
A bill was introduced today that would allow Texans to open carry.
http://m.news-journal.com/mobile/news/local/new-legislative-push-for-open-carry-gun-law-in-texas/article_80bd0955-5597-582f-af8f-e09c4a959eab.html
Looks like some good news for texans in times like these.

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allaroundhunter
January 25, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oh I hope this one passes. Not so much because I want to open carry, but because I don't want to worry about it being 100% concealed 100% of the time...

black_powder_Rob
January 25, 2013, 08:30 PM
Also wanted to add God bless Texas.

KTXdm9
January 25, 2013, 08:35 PM
Oh I hope this one passes. Not so much because I want to open carry, but because I don't want to worry about it being 100% concealed 100% of the time...
Me too, although I might open carry some of my heavier pistols.

Byrd666
January 25, 2013, 08:37 PM
Works for me.

M2 Carbine
January 25, 2013, 08:40 PM
I guess I'm just a pessimist but I don't think it will pass.

I'd like to see it. I probably wouldn't OC much, but I still want the choice.

Texan Scott
January 25, 2013, 08:44 PM
Write your state congresscritters. I want this BADLY. I likely wouldn't OC, but it would make wearing a full-size pistol OWB under a light shirt a lot less worrisome.

Ms_Dragon
January 25, 2013, 08:48 PM
I have a lot of admiration for the Lone Star State and if my heart wasn't set on Arizona Texas would be my next choice.

Let's hope things go your way.
The political noises I'm hearing from that way makes me really hopeful it'll pass if only to thumb their noses at Washington.

orionengnr
January 25, 2013, 08:51 PM
It has been introduced in several Legislative sessions, but never comes up for a vote.
As long as we are stuck with RINO Joe Strauss as Speaker of the House, it will never happen.

nathan
January 25, 2013, 09:27 PM
I would like to but its better to have it hidden so no one knows you are armed and dangerous.

Deltaboy
January 25, 2013, 09:31 PM
Heard that Rick is for it and we need Lt Gov David Dewherst on board .

Snowdog
January 25, 2013, 09:34 PM
Wait, so my state of North Carolina allows open carry while Texas currently does not? Woah, that's hard to wrap my mind around.

Silent Bob
January 25, 2013, 10:25 PM
An Open Carry bill (as well as a campus carry bill) are introduced almost every year in the Texas state legislature, but go nowhere. This year may be different; while gun control measures that usually go nowhere in eastern states are suddenly gaining traction post-Sandy Hook, conversely I think pro-gun measures in Texas and other midwestern states are going to gain traction.

That said, I am not exactly a proponent of open carry, and don't ever plan to even if legal, but we should have the option.

VA27
January 25, 2013, 11:28 PM
We've had open carry since November and I've yet to see my first OC. It's really been a non-event. I hope my Texas friends get it soon.

Walter
January 26, 2013, 12:38 AM
Hey, never say "Never", guys. I never thought I would live to see the day "Shall-Issue" concealed-carry permits would be legal in Texas either, but it finally happened. For many years Texas had some of the strictest handgun laws in the country. It was practically forbidden to carry a handgun anywhere except in the field, while hunting. And carrying a loaded handgun in your car, especially concealed, was a serious no-no.

But times have changed for the better and maybe this time "open-carry" will make it through. I'm like a lot of people, I probably won't carry openly, but I would like for the option to be available.

Walter

tarosean
January 26, 2013, 01:41 AM
Oh I hope this one passes. Not so much because I want to open carry, but because I don't want to worry about it being 100% concealed 100% of the time...

Same boat. doubtful I would go open, other than the hunting I do now. However, I got lots of nice leather I would like to let see some daylight once in a while.

Zardaia
January 26, 2013, 02:08 AM
Wait, so my state of North Carolina allows open carry while Texas currently does not? Woah, that's hard to wrap my mind around.
Yeah, I find it surprising every time I hear it that TEXAS dosn't allow OC. Guess one more reason why stereotypes r bad huh? Fl tried it awhile back and it got knocked down to protection against prosecution for "brief inadvertant exposure".

umadcuzimstylin
January 26, 2013, 05:16 AM
"Oh I hope this one passes. Not so much because I want to open carry, but because I don't want to worry about it being 100% concealed 100% of the time..."

exactly this!

Gun Geezer
January 26, 2013, 10:16 AM
I just detest CCW. The weapons are all too small, underpowered, and/or limited capacity for concealment. All I can carry comfortably is 380ACP. I have yet to find a pocket 9 I care for.

Give my OC. Big honkin 45 ACP with 3 each 8-round spare mags. That right there is a decent defense rig with tremendous deterent.

Patrice
January 26, 2013, 12:37 PM
Hhmmm....I thought there were very good reasons for concealed carry, and I believe that those reasons had nothing to do with convenience. Open carry is certainly more convenient, but it does nothing to supplant the reasons/rationale for concealed carry. Each to their own though.--Patrice

heeler
January 26, 2013, 12:57 PM
It will be interesting to see this time how it goes.
But some here believe most people dont notice when someone around here is open carrying and I will relate something that happened yesterday.
I was standing in line at a Pappa's BBQ place to order lunch and a two guys ahead of me were open carrying because they were plain clothes Harris County Sherrifs Officers as I saw one's badge pinned on his holster and the other guy was a lefty and had his credentials hanging by a lanyard from his neck.
Two women were behind me and due to certain body positioning one woman saw the lefty's pistol,which I think was a Glock 26/27 and I suddenly heard her say to her friend in a low tone of "My God that man has a GUN!!"..I turned and told them they were police officers.
She was pretty freaked out to say the least.
What was truely funny is my LCP was out of sight in my right front pocket and she didn't have a clue about that.
I am of the opinion one reason we dont have OC here in Texas is that things of this nature scare people who are not involved with firearms in their daily lives and it probably makes business people nervous as well.
Just my opinion.

FiremanJim
January 26, 2013, 03:46 PM
In the city. firearms are pretty taboo, and open carry would cause a panic to be honest.
But in small towns that I've vited and anywhere in the Texas Hill country were guns are a part of life, no one has a problem with them.

Maybe I oughtta move back to Kerrville.........

EmbarkChief
January 26, 2013, 05:06 PM
Gun Geezer wrote
I just detest CCW. The weapons are all too small, underpowered, and/or limited capacity for concealment. All I can carry comfortably is 380ACP. I have yet to find a pocket 9 I care for.

Give my OC. Big honkin 45 ACP with 3 each 8-round spare mags. That right there is a decent defense rig with tremendous deterent.

I had to chuckle at this because a "big honkin .45" is exactly what I conceal carry every day. Although I only have 2 spare mags not 3. I also agree with the other posters in that I wouldn't necessarily OC very often but it would be nice to have the option.

JFrame
January 26, 2013, 05:08 PM
I'm really surprised that a state like Texas doesn't already have open carry. The Old Dominion has had it for years...


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GEM
January 26, 2013, 06:36 PM
Don't hold your breath. Overt support does not mean that the Gov. and Lt. Gov will really push for it.

The campus carry debacle of last session says it all. Lots of posture and no results.

Queen_of_Thunder
January 26, 2013, 07:48 PM
Open carrying 8 3/8 S&W model 29.

EvilGenius
January 26, 2013, 09:55 PM
Anyone got links to where we can contact our reps?

JFrame
January 27, 2013, 11:03 AM
Anyone got links to where we can contact our reps?

Looks like this will do the trick:

http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml


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orionengnr
January 27, 2013, 01:20 PM
An Open Carry bill (as well as a campus carry bill) are introduced almost every year in the Texas state legislature, but go nowhere.
Actually, that is every other year, as the Texas Legislature only meets biennially.

Dewhurst has been reported as "in the bag" for Joe Strauss. Joe Strauss was recently re-elected as Speaker of the House. Joe Strauss is at best a "moderate" and, more realistically, a RINO. (Do some research on how he was elected Speaker the first time--it was a coalition of all the Dems and a couple "Moderate" Republicans. He has open disdain for Tea Party members and (big "C") Conservatives. As a result, I predict that yet again, nothing gets done on:

--Campus Carry
--Open Carry
--Illegal Immigration
...or any items of interest to real Conservatives.

texasgun
January 27, 2013, 03:29 PM
what's so great about OC ? I fail to see the benefits... people freak out, gun grabbers are encouraged and the bad guy knows EXACTLY who has a gun and who hasn't.

even more : if you do not have the commitment and make the effort to properly conceal and carry a gun... maybe you shouldn't be carrying at all? this is not Tombstone where you put the biggest gun you can find onto your belt holster...

The only good thing about OC is that "printing" is not an issue. But even in WA State when hiking most people try to conceal their guns somewhat... every time you have OC you have some dude walking a long a busy highway with his gun in plain visibility and filming it for youtube... just to wait for cops stopping him :scrutiny:

Deltaboy
January 27, 2013, 04:50 PM
Sorry I disagree LEO' s carry all the time even in plain clothes and the public doesn't' freak out. We need OC and better public education. I had a clueless sheep try to tell me we find' t have CCW in TX. 3 minutes and using their I- Phone they read it for themselves and became even more scared. So let them cry or move to NY.

PavePusher
January 27, 2013, 06:14 PM
In the city. firearms are pretty taboo, and open carry would cause a panic to be honest.
But in small towns that I've vited and anywhere in the Texas Hill country were guns are a part of life, no one has a problem with them.

Maybe I oughtta move back to Kerrville.........
Doesn't seem to be a problem here in Tucson, or in Phoenix or Salt Lake.

Hmmmm....

PavePusher
January 27, 2013, 06:17 PM
what's so great about OC ? I fail to see the benefits... people freak out, gun grabbers are encouraged and the bad guy knows EXACTLY who has a gun and who hasn't.

even more : if you do not have the commitment and make the effort to properly conceal and carry a gun... maybe you shouldn't be carrying at all? this is not Tombstone where you put the biggest gun you can find onto your belt holster...

The only good thing about OC is that "printing" is not an issue. But even in WA State when hiking most people try to conceal their guns somewhat... every time you have OC you have some dude walking a long a busy highway with his gun in plain visibility and filming it for youtube... just to wait for cops stopping him :scrutiny:
Yeah, Constitutional Rights should only be exercised covertly, or you aren't responsible.

Wow. Seriously?

This doesn't seem to be a problem in Utah or Arizona. Maybe people living there are smarter then people elsewhere?

k_dawg
January 27, 2013, 06:31 PM
Being concerned with OC's [ where legal ] is a sign of the chilling effect.

To me, it is equal to being afraid of being seen walking into a voting booth.

Imagine if the police were called each time someone of color 'dared' to use a water fountain.

texasgun
January 27, 2013, 06:48 PM
wel.. OC makes it incredibly hard to the police to spot the danger...

let's say a guy gets a call that his car is being towed and runs thru a shopping mall with a gun on his belt ... now expect the same scenario with a CCW holder... what's less scary and would trigger less 9-11 calls?

youtube is full of videos with OC dudes walking next to a busy highway and just waiting for being stopped and questioned by the cops. the fact is: IF the police gets a call that a "weird looking" guy with a gun is walking next to the highway... they HAVE to investigate. I'd much rather seem then focus on real crime instead of being forced to follow thru on OC calls.

Or how about the guy in Utah doing his mall shopping with an AR15 on his shoulders?

Only because you have the right to do something, doesn't mean you actually should do it.

I for example am not a huge fan of gay pride parades with dudes kissing in public wearing leather / latex clothes on. Do they have the right to do it? sure. Is it smart/appropriate? questionable. Same way I feel about guys going grocery shopping with an AR15 over their shoulder or going to the movies with a 1911 visibly on your body....

Gaiudo
January 27, 2013, 07:10 PM
Are you also in favor of being charged with a crime if your shirt flies up in the wind and reveals your CCW?

Let's let LEGAL be separate from PRUDENT. One is a matter of punishment, the other of wisdom. Thanks for not adding the possibility of jail time just because you don't think something is prudent.

KnekBeard
January 27, 2013, 07:42 PM
I OC almost all the time and have never seen anyone freak out. I don't exactly live out in the wilderness. The only people who have said anything about it have been either supportive or curious. Never had the cops called to my knowledge, but have been around some at various places. I think the fears are overblown.

SimplyChad
January 28, 2013, 01:33 AM
Personally I pistol hunt and would like to be able to strap my redhawk on my hip.

tarosean
January 28, 2013, 01:39 AM
SimplyChad we can do that now...

<snip> from out CHL laws.

Sec. 46.15.
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
(4) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is conducted, or is en route between the premises and the actor's residence, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;

SimplyChad
January 28, 2013, 01:41 AM
I mean on the way. I have however forgot it was still on my hip and went to Walmart. No one noticed.

chris in va
January 28, 2013, 03:41 AM
Oh I hope this one passes. Not so much because I want to open carry, but because I don't want to worry about it being 100% concealed 100% of the time..


It's my understanding you don't have to worry about printing any more. I thought they relaxed the restrictions a couple years ago.

allaroundhunter
January 28, 2013, 01:37 PM
It's my understanding you don't have to worry about printing any more. I thought they relaxed the restrictions a couple years ago.

But it is still very dependent on where you live. I live in a town where police officers take any possible occasion to call for back up because they need a reason to turn on their sirens... Someone takes two turns to pull over instead of one during a traffic stop? 3 police cars will be behind them and chances are they will be ordered out of the car. Heck, I was walking back from school one day and had 2 cops come up behind me because I was "acting suspicious".... I was walking with my head down because I was reading a book....

slamfirev10
January 28, 2013, 02:03 PM
It's my understanding you don't have to worry about printing any more. I thought they relaxed the restrictions a couple years ago.

i just took my tx renewal class, printing is still a no no

tyeo098
January 28, 2013, 02:19 PM
All the chest thumping 'move to Texas' nonsense and you guys can't even open carry?

Screw Texas, move to Virginia!

EvilGenius
January 28, 2013, 02:39 PM
All the chest thumping 'move to Texas' nonsense and you guys can't even open carry?

Screw Texas, move to Virginia!
Yes, please redirect all the NY'ers to VA.

tyeo098
January 28, 2013, 03:39 PM
Yes, please redirect all the NY'ers to VA.
Wait...

Crap.

Wait, no. We need more gun owners!

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