What some socialists think on gun rights


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tipoc
January 25, 2013, 10:56 PM
Another opinion in the debates.

Below are links to two articles that have appeared in the pages of the socialist newspaper "The Militant". The Militant generally reflects the views of the U.S. based Socialists Workers Party. Unlike many of the "socialists" in the U.S. they have never been a part of the Democratic party.

They support the 2nd amendment and oppose the current Republican and Democratic push on the Bill of Rights.

http://www.themilitant.com/2013/7701/770101.html

A second article on the Obama proposals and executive actions.

http://www.themilitant.com/2013/7703/770303.html

tipoc

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Silent Bob
January 25, 2013, 11:03 PM
Wow, that was like looking into some sort of Bizarro World. Their Soviet forebears sure did not feel that way about an armed proletariat.

j.kramer
January 25, 2013, 11:05 PM
someone saying it like it is

both parties are taking our rights away in the name of freedom

Sam1911
January 25, 2013, 11:11 PM
Anti-social violence and senseless murder ... are first and foremost a by-product of social relations under capitalism—buttressed by cop brutality, deaths and maimings on the job, and bloody wars of conquest abroad.Well...that's one angle we haven't seen brought up pretty much anywhere! On the job accidents and deaths -- happening clearly to OTHERS, not the violent actor himself -- induce a social pressure which manifests in young men of college age committing mass murder? Learn something new every day!

j.kramer
January 25, 2013, 11:14 PM
Wow, that was like looking into some sort of Bizarro World. Their Soviet forebears sure did not feel that way about an armed proletariat.

you confusing the socialist with the communist

Silent Bob
January 25, 2013, 11:17 PM
....

Artigas
January 25, 2013, 11:33 PM
A lot of socialism has anti-authoritarian and anarchist subtexts, so this is not entirely surprising. This kind of issue is usually the differentiating factor between left-statists and left-anarchists. Anyway, the Communist Party has come out in support of gun control (http://www.examiner.com/article/communist-party-usa-backs-obama-gun-grab-calls-second-amendment-obsolete).

tipoc
January 26, 2013, 01:30 AM
Thanks for posting that Artigas.

This is the remnant of the pro Moscow Communist Party USA. By and large they declared Marxism irrelevant after the demise of the Soviet Union and dissolved themselves into the left wing of the Democratic Party. They had been comfortable there for decades beforehand.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/fight-to-end-gun-violence-is-key-to-defending-democracy/

tipoc

tipoc
January 26, 2013, 04:03 PM
The People's World article is one of liberalism's best shots at a theoretical attack on the 2nd Amendment. One of the things the Stalinists have always done best, provide some left "theoretical" cover for depriving working folks of their rights.

tipoc

AlexanderA
January 26, 2013, 04:04 PM
The truly loony "revolutionary" Left is in favor of gun rights, because it thinks the availability of guns will enable its revolutionary fantasy. If it ever got into power, it would immediately ban guns for everybody except its own members.

LemmyCaution
January 26, 2013, 04:42 PM
Comment made irrelevant by action of the moderators.

Sam1911
January 26, 2013, 04:55 PM
I think it's really telling that we allow rank anti-semitism to pass without comment on this board, effectively welcoming it to the RKBA movement,Ok...I can't let that pass. What the HELL are you talking about?

Reply via PM.

tipoc
January 26, 2013, 05:16 PM
Sam1911,

Looks like the rancid Mel Gibson like Jew hating comments that were made were deleted by the poster who made them and who may have thought better of it. Comments replying to them were also deleted by the fella who replied. It seems Lemmycaution saw the comments and reply before they were dropped and so his post.

Now you're caught up I think.

tipoc

Sam1911
January 26, 2013, 05:19 PM
Ahhh...that often happens when folks rant instead of hitting the "Report Post" button. It is awful gentlemanly of everyone to give us a chance to police ranks before they rail against us in public.

Fortunately our reptilian hides don't permit us to be wounded by such slings and arrows, and our saintly patience is eternal and undiminishable.

;)

blarby
January 26, 2013, 07:35 PM
OMG, you mean not all "socialists" are rabid, foaming gun haters ?

I'm absolutely shocked. Just shocked :scrutiny:

you confusing the socialist with the communist

You must be confused. That NEVER happens on THR. Everyone here is fully versed in the subleties of the political theories that they decry. Shame on you :cool:

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