Now over 127 sheriffs won't enforce Obama's gun control laws


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bds
January 26, 2013, 10:44 AM
Over 127 sheriffs (including 2 in NY) pledge Obama gun legislation will not be enforced - http://www.examiner.com/article/127-sheriffs-won-t-enforce-obama-gun-laws-specter-of-door-to-door-gun-search
Thus, as popular support for new gun laws gradually cools with the passage of time, and reason takes the place of "knee jerk gun control," gun rights activists may discover that the President's gun control proposals ultimately have no teeth.

Alabama sheriffs (3) (as reported by local news station WHNT, gun rights organization Oath Keepers, media outlet Dothanfirst);
Houston County Sheriff Andy Hughes
Madison County Sheriff Blake Dorning
Morgan County Sheriff Ana Franklin

Arizona sheriffs (2) (according to news outlets TPM and Reason);
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio
Yavapai County Sheriff Scott Mascher

Califonia sheriffs (13) (according to The Modesto Bee, local news stations KRNVand KFSN, and CSPOA);
Del Norte County Sheriff Dean Wilson
El Dorado County Sheriff John D’Agostini
Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims
Humboldt County Sheriff Mike Downey
Lassen County Sheriff Dean Growden
Mendocino County Sheriff Thomas Allman
Modoc County Sheriff Mike Poindexter
Plumas County Sheriff Greg Hagwood
Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko
Tehama County Sheriff David Hencraft
Trinity County Sheriff Bruce Haney
Siskiyou County Sheriff Jon Lopey (letter)
Stanislaus County Sheriff Adam Christianson (letter)

Colorado sheriffs (4) (as reported by local television station KWGN, the El Paso County Sheriff's Official website, the Mesa County Sheriff's Official Facebook page, the Denver Post);
El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa
Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith
Mesa County Sheriff Stan Hilkey
Weld County Sheriff John Cooke

Delaware sheriffs (1) (according to CSPOA)
Sussex County Sheriff Jeff Christopher

Georgia sheriffs (3) (as reported by the Cherokee Tribune, MinnPost Christian Science Monitor and CSPOA);
Cherokee County Sheriff Roger Garrison
Gilmer County Sheriff Stacy Nicholson
Oconee County Sheriff Scott Berry

Florida sheriffs (3) (according to local news station WPTV and Sheriff McKiethen's personal Facebook page)
Bay County Florida Sheriff Frank McKiethen
Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott
Martin County Sheriff Bill Snyder

Idaho sheriffs (2) (according to news station KIFI and newspaper Idaho Statesman);
Canyon County, Idaho Sheriff Kieran Donahue
Madison County Sheriff Roy Klingler

Indiana sheriffs (1) (according to CSPOA)
Elkhart County Sheriff Brad Rogers

Kansas sheriffs (1) (according to the Kansas City Star)
Johnson County Sheriff Frank Denning

Kentucky sheriffs (2) ( as reported by NBC News and CSPOA)
Bath County Sheriff John Snedegar
Jackson County Sheriff Denny Peyman

Minnesota sheriffs (1) (according to NewsMax)
Pine County Sheriff Robin Cole

Missouri sheriffs (4) (as reported on BeforeItsNews, IRN News, news stations KOAM and KCTV, and CSPOA);
Johnson County Sheriff Charles Heiss (letter)
Lawrence County Sheriff Brad DeLay (letter)
Livingston County Sheriff Steve Cox (letter)
Osage County Michael Dixon

Montana sheriffs (2) (according to radio station 96.3TheBlaze and CSPOA)
Ravalli County Sheriff Chris Hoffman
Sanders County Sheriff Tom Rummel (letter)

Nevada sheriffs (1) (as reported by local news station KRNV)
Humboldt County Sheriff Ed Kilgore

New Mexico sheriffs (30) (according to the Portales News-Tribune, Guns.com and CSPOA)
Roosevelt county sheriff Darren Hooker and the New Mexico Sheriff’s Association (30 out of 33 New Mexico sheriffs)

New York sheriffs (2) (according to CSPOA)
Otsego County Sheriff Richard Devlin Jr.
Schoharie County Sheriff Tony Desmond

Ohio sheriffs (2) (according to radio station KyPost and WCPO);
Boone County Sheriff Michael A. Helmig
Clermont County Sheriff A.J. Rodenberg

Oklahoma sheriffs (1) (according to CSPOA)
Wagoner County Sheriff Bob ‘Big Block’ Colbert

Oregon sheriffs (14) (as reported by Fox News, online newspaper OregonLive, local radio station KCMB, local television station KMTR, Herald News, gun rights organization Oregon Firearms and CSPOA);
Baker County Sheriff Mitchell Southwick
Coos County Sheriff Craig Zanni (letter)
Crook County Sheriff Jim Hensley
Curry County Sheriff John Bishop (letter)
Deschutes County Sheriff Larry Blanton
Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin (letter)
Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer (letter)
Jackson County Sheriff Mike Winters (letter)
Josephine County Sheriff Gil Gilbertson (letter)
Klamath County Sheriff Frank Skrah
Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller (letter)
Malheur County Sheriff Brian Wolfe (letter)
Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton
Washington County Sheriff Pat Garrett

South Carolina sheriffs (3) (according to The Post and Courier, news station WYFF and CSPOA);
Berkeley County Sheriff Wayne DeWitt
Charleston County Sheriff Al Cannon
Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright

Texas sheriffs (3) (as reported by local news station KLTV, Dallas News and CSPOA)
Collin County Sheriff Terry Box
Randall County Sheriff Joel W. Richardson
Smith County Sheriff Larry Smith

Utah sheriffs (28) (as reported by CSPOA)
Beaver County Sheriff Cameron M. Noel (letter)
Box Elder County Sheriff J. Lynn Yeates
Chache County Sheriff G. Lynn Nelson
Carbon County Sheriff James Cordova
Daggett County Sheriff Jerry Jorgensen
Davis County Sheriff Todd Richardson
Duchesne County Sheriff Travis Mitchell Utah
Emery County Sheriff Greg Funk
Garfield County Sheriff James D. Perkins
Grand County Sheriff Steven White
Iron County Sheriff Mark Gower
Juab County Sheriff Alden Orme
Kane County Sheriff Lamont Smith
Millard County Sheriff Robert Dekker
Morgan County Sheriff Blaine Breshears
Puite County Sheriff Marty Gleave
Rich County Sheriff Dale Stacey
San Juan County Sheriff Rick Eldredge
Sanpete County Sheriff Brian Nielson
Sevier County Sheriff Nathan Curtis
Summit County Sheriff David Edmunds
Tooele County Sheriff Frank Park
Uintah County Sheriff Jeff Merrell
Wasatch County Sheriff Todd Bonner
Washington County Sheriff Cory Pulsipher
Wayne County Sheriff Kurt Taylor
Weber County Sheriff Terry Thompson
Utah County Sheriff James Tracy

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xfyrfiter
January 26, 2013, 10:51 AM
Now that's why I love NM, 30, and UT, 28.

mberoose
January 26, 2013, 11:06 AM
...and not one of our sheep stood up on 2 legs. :mad:

...predictably.

CookeMonster
January 26, 2013, 11:09 AM
Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller commented below the article that lists him saying that he did not state that and wonders how his name got on the list. Makes me wonder about the validity of that list. I'd love for it to be true, but I have trouble accepting the article when one has already publicly stated he is not part of it.

Ryanxia
January 26, 2013, 11:10 AM
That's fantastic! We need to stay united and keep up the pressure! As New Hampshire's motto is, 'Live Free or Die'.

TNBilly
January 26, 2013, 11:30 AM
Thank you bds for finding and publishing the list. Most ashamedly I see there's not one TN listed. Makes me feel like OK is more my home..... never should'a left!

j.kramer
January 26, 2013, 11:33 AM
the sworn oat of every sherriff is to uphold the constitucion ever sherrif should be on that list unless they dont want to do their job

Big Boy
January 26, 2013, 12:05 PM
Tim Mueller had a letter of no compliance that he wrote posted on his own sheriff's facebook page.

Airbrush Artist
January 26, 2013, 12:12 PM
Every Police Chief Every Sheriff every Law Administrator in every County in the Country Should be put too task and Asked the QUESTION< What Will "YOU" Do?>

TarDevil
January 26, 2013, 12:22 PM
So bitterly disappointed that North Carolina has no representation on that list.

Embarrassed.

Ashamed.

au01st
January 26, 2013, 12:25 PM
Proud that my sheriff is first on that list. And he has confirmed that statement.

jamesbeat
January 26, 2013, 12:41 PM
I wonder what the (awesome) NY sheriffs on that list will do about complying with the new AWB/magazine restrictions?

MachIVshooter
January 26, 2013, 12:49 PM
Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller commented below the article that lists him saying that he did not state that and wonders how his name got on the list. Makes me wonder about the validity of that list.

While at the same time, our sheriff (Elbert County, CO) did write a letter affirming that he won't let the federal government trample our rights, and he is not on the list (yet).

230RN
January 26, 2013, 12:50 PM
From the Examiner article:

"Public safety professionals serving in the executive branch do not have the constitutional authority, responsibility, and in most cases, the credentials to determine the constitutionality of any issue. Law enforcement officials should leave it to the courts to decide whether a law is constitutional or not."
(Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson)


That troubles me, because it seems to be the attitude of so many politicians who figure they can pass a law and leave it up to someone else to challenge it to determine "constitutionality," when the document, and especially the Bill Of Rights, was written in language understandable to the layman.

As they say, what's so hard to understand about "shall not be infringed" and "the people?"

What's so hard to understand about why those ten Amendments were affixed to the Constitution?

Well, it was in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of the Federal Government's powers.

That's why.

Terry, 230RN

scaatylobo
January 26, 2013, 12:53 PM
The Sheriff of Erie County in NEW YORK STATE [ Tim Howard ] has stood tall and spoken out against this passage of STUPID laws that accomplish NOTHING at all.

Feel good / touchy feely spouting of a hot pile of Poo does NOTHING to make the citizen safer and NOTHING to stop the lawbreaker.

He said as much and I was THRILLED to hear him.

JRH6856
January 26, 2013, 12:56 PM
WOW! Only 2,906 to go.

MachIVshooter
January 26, 2013, 01:05 PM
From the Examiner article:



"Public safety professionals serving in the executive branch do not have the constitutional authority, responsibility, and in most cases, the credentials to determine the constitutionality of any issue. Law enforcement officials should leave it to the courts to decide whether a law is constitutional or not."
(Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson)

That troubles me, because it seems to be the attitude of so many politicians who figure they can pass a law and leave it up to someone else to challenge it to determine "constitutionality," when the document, and especially the Bill Of Rights, was written in language understandable to the layman.

As they say, what's so hard to understand about "shall not be infringed" and "the people?"

What's so hard to understand about why those ten Amendments were affixed to the Constitution?

Well, it was in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of the Federal Government's powers.

That's why.

Terry, 230RN

Remember that Arapco is a blue county, despite having a large rural, gun owning population on the Eastern side. The City of Aurora gives Arapco it's mandates, much like Denver and a couple other cities tarnish the state as a whole.

youngda9
January 26, 2013, 01:05 PM
Legislators should be required to read the federalist papers and pass a test on the founders intent.

Dr_B
January 26, 2013, 01:09 PM
The sheriff of Latah county in northern Idaho also has publicly announced he will not support new gun control.

armoredman
January 26, 2013, 01:16 PM
Add MY Sheriff, Sheriff Babeu to the list, Arizona, Pinal County.

http://ktar.com/22/1604910/Babeu-wont-enforce-executiveorder-gun-laws

...Babeu told KTAR he finds it ironic that an administration that put 2,000 weapons into the hands of Mexican drug cartels with the Fast and Furious would try to take away Second Amendment rights.

76shuvlinoff
January 26, 2013, 02:05 PM
Shame on Michigan

MAKster
January 26, 2013, 02:54 PM
Last I checked sheriff's enforced state law not federal. These sheriff's couldn't enforce a federal weapons ban even if they wanted to.

MachIVshooter
January 26, 2013, 03:03 PM
Last I checked sheriff's enforced state law not federal. These sheriff's couldn't enforce a federal weapons ban even if they wanted to.

These sheriffs are not talking about not enforcing a ban; They're saying they won't allow it to be enforced. Some have threatened to arrest federal agents attempting to enforce unconstitutional laws, and some lawmakers have even proposed legislation that would make it a felony to attempt to enforce such laws.

JRH6856
January 26, 2013, 03:54 PM
some lawmakers have even proposed legislation that would make it a felony to attempt to enforce such laws.

Which in itself is unconstitutional. It is well established that State cannot nullify federal law, and that when in conflict, federal law prevails.

That said, there is a proposal in New Hampshire to make it a felony to attempt to enforce federal law against arms and ammunition manufactured and sold within the state of New Hampshire. The theory being that since they are not involved in interstate commerce, Congress has no authority.

If this passes, it will be interesting to watch as it certainly has SCOTUS written all over it. Gutting the commerce clause would be a major victory.

bds
January 26, 2013, 04:16 PM
Ooops

nathan
January 26, 2013, 04:18 PM
Only a few from Texas so far. I can see Harris County with Sheriff Garcia will not join in.

bds
January 26, 2013, 04:23 PM
It is well established that State cannot nullify federal law, and that when in conflict, federal law prevails.
Justified medical marijuana use and legalization by many states is happening in conflict with federal laws ... If majority of the states legalize the use of marijuana (currently 18 states and 7 more pending (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000881)), I do not believe Obama will be able to reverse the passage of these state laws - http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=002481

I think similar situation can occur if states pass gun laws that conflict with federal laws.

Anyone more keen on legal aspects care to help us out?

MachIVshooter
January 26, 2013, 04:40 PM
Which in itself is unconstitutional. It is well established that State cannot nullify federal law, and that when in conflict, federal law prevails.

If the federal law is unconstitutional, then it can't be enforced anyway. These state laws making enforcement of unconstitutional laws a crime give local law enforcement the tools to combat it, rather than just play Switzerland while citizens and federal agents duke it out.

As well, states certainly can and do enact laws that conflict with federal law, and there's really not much fed gov can do about it if the issue remains intrastate.

JRH6856
January 26, 2013, 06:31 PM
Whatever law Congress enacts and the President signs is Constitutional until SCOTUS rules otherwise. Under the Constitution, the President is the chief magistrate and it is his duty to determine constitutionality before signing. This is the way it was understood until John Marshall established SCOTUS as the final arbiter. So any law is considered constitutional and enforceable until a court with jurisdiction says otherwise.

Federal do not normally reach inside the state. but there are exceptions. See Articles IV, V, VI and the 14th Amendment, for examples. And Congress can be very creative in applying the Commerce clause.

bds
January 26, 2013, 06:45 PM
any law is considered constitutional and enforceable until a court with jurisdiction says otherwise.
So why is Obama not enforcing federal laws for medical/recreational marijuana and letting various states "unconstitutionally" violate them? (See post #27)

Am I missing something?

Texan Scott
January 26, 2013, 06:46 PM
I'll point out that most TX sheriffs have not said much because it's a moot point: our AG Abbott and members of the TX legislature will have their hides on the side of the barn if they try to enforce a new AWB.

Fred Fuller
January 26, 2013, 07:41 PM
https://www.facebook.com/FranklinCountySheriffOffice?ref=stream

Franklin County Sheriff's Office of North Carolina
Wednesday
Letter to the Citizenry:

Citizens of Franklin County North Carolina,

As most of you are aware I attended a meeting at Fargo’s Restaurant in Zebulon some weeks back. The purpose of the meeting was simple, to provide clarification to the citizenry as to where your Sheriffs stand with regards to your 2nd Amendment Rights to Keep and Bear Arms. Particular interest was given to the possibility of any new Federal Laws and/or restrictions and how each Sheriff would react should such measures be taken. Since that community meeting I have received countless emails and letters from concerned citizens within Franklin County. In response to these concerns please allow me, as the Sheriff of Franklin County, to make the following declarations.

As the Sheriff of Franklin County North Carolina I have sworn an oath, as have the men and women who serve under me, to "Support and maintain the Constitution and laws of the United States, and the Constitution and laws of North Carolina not inconsistent therewith". When I swore to this oath it was not intended on my part to be merely ceremonious in nature. Those words have meaning. They represent the very basis of what makes our society different from so many others worldwide. We have established a form of Government which derives its powers from the governed, as is clearly stated in our Constitution. Our founding fathers recognized that each of us is born equally into this world with certain rights. These rights were put to paper in clear and concise wording for all to understand, even future generations.

The 2nd Amendment states “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Our founding father’s words still hold true today. However there are some who would seek to “adjust” the meaning of this amendment and its purpose. The 2nd Amendment was not intended to secure the citizenry the right to hunt wild game; it was intended to assure the continuation of a Free State. Having that in mind I respectfully make the following statement.

“As the Sheriff of Franklin County North Carolina I, Jerry W Jones, will not participate in, nor enforce, any Unconstitutional Edicts, Orders or Laws handed down by any Government Body. As the highest ranking law enforcement officer within my jurisdiction I feel as though it is my duty to make this statement clear. No Law Abiding Citizen of Franklin County shall have their Constitutional Rights infringed upon. I have sworn an oath attesting to this statement and it will be honored at all times. I thank each and every one of you for your time and continued support of the Office of Sheriff.”

Sheriff Jerry W Jones

Ole Humpback
January 26, 2013, 08:34 PM
I wouldn't take it as a bad thing if your counties sheriff isn't on that list. Alot of states have legislations ready to go that uses the 10th Amendment to reassert their states sovereign constitution:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14273-states-aim-to-nullify-obama-gun-control

They played by the courts rules on Obamacare. This time around I think they are going to use the 10th Amendment for all its worth.

Wichaka
January 26, 2013, 10:36 PM
This post may be deleted, but it's time we have a passionate discussion about the future of gun rights. We can think of other countries where this has happened, and yet we can't discuss it on forums?

I'm not talking about a physical confrontation, but a line drawn in the sand..and stand firm.

Yes I guess it may come down to violating the law...but when does the law become valid when rights are trampled?

I myself being a LEO have told friends, don't register anything.

The rumblings I'm getting from friends in ATF & DHS have come to pass.

The Gov. is trying to get AR's and the like under NFA rules, and at least want them all registered. They don't know where they all are at as of now, but they will if folks register them. If confiscation follows, they will know where they are if they don't get turned in.

I have told my Chief and those around I will not enforce any new laws, unless the firearm is used in the commission of a crime...then I will add on the new enforcement guidelines.

There are a lot of LEO's that have had it with those so called upper echelon types who stand in the media spotlight claiming to represent LEO's across the nation, when they do not have even the least little clue of what we think/feel.

It's time we stand up all together and say a very loud "NO!".

r1derbike
January 26, 2013, 11:25 PM
I wrote an email to our new county sheriff, to ask where he stood on the 2nd, and other issues. He is an CHCL instructor, family-oriented, and from what I've seen on TV and heard, a stand-up lawman.

I'll wait for a bit on a reply, he must be knee-deep in getting the department on the same page, so I'm sure his time is very limited.

Mulk
January 26, 2013, 11:39 PM
Oconee County, Cherokee County, Gilmer County, and Paulding County, Ga are saying shove it. Frankly I am trying, and hoping to encourage Millsap and Warren from Bartow and Cobb County (home of Kennesaw, Ga fyi) to get on board the bus here. That would be the entire NW suburbs of the Atlanta area backed up by the entire NW and NE parts of Georgia. So a good 5 to 8 million people saying no way!

And this isn't even the two or three million on Middle and South Georgia. Few more Sheriffs and you got a good 8 to 10 million people represented in this fight just from one state.

Well okay Fulton and DeKalb and a few middle Georgia places may be tough. But 7 million or more ain't bad right? If they step up for the people that voted them all in at least.

r1derbike
January 27, 2013, 12:12 AM
I suspect many lawmen and women cannot speak-up because of obvious consequences. I know a lot of LEOs who certainly speak off the record, because we are acquaintances, but would in no way jeopardize their careers by any public statements, and I don't blame them!

They are charged with scooping-up the detritus, have to keep it clean on the job or off, and are always on guard about saying the wrong thing coming back to haunt them (OK, not all of them).

I admire those who are laying it all out there, for all to see. To me that is the ultimate application of civil disobedience, to protest these insane bills at the national, state, or county levels. Kudos, hats off!

JTHunter
January 27, 2013, 12:28 AM
While this is a wonderful start, what percentage of ALL sheriffs does this represent?

JTHunter
January 27, 2013, 12:38 AM
Naturally, none are from Illinois.

We just lost an ally late last year. The local sheriff was an active participant in promoting CC in Illinois. He had participated in at least one town hall meeting arranged by the Illinois State Rifle Assoc. (ISRA.org). He passed away less than 2 weeks after retiring but he had some health problems of late and was about 80 at the time.

BHP FAN
January 27, 2013, 12:43 AM
''Which in itself is unconstitutional. It is well established that State cannot nullify federal law, and that when in conflict, federal law prevails...''

Tell that to all the pot growers in Colorodo and out here on the Left Coast.....

303tom
January 27, 2013, 12:56 AM
Good For Them.................

Wichaka
January 27, 2013, 02:31 AM
r1derbike said;
"I suspect many lawmen and women cannot speak-up because of obvious consequences. I know a lot of LEOs who certainly speak off the record, because we are acquaintances, but would in no way jeopardize their careers by any public statements, and I don't blame them!"


I've got to the point where I do speak up when asked, whether in uniform or not. I figure if they ask, I'm gonna answer with what I honestly think.

12131
January 27, 2013, 02:36 AM
Only a few from Texas so far. I can see Harris County with Sheriff Garcia will not join in.
Garcia is a Dem and BHO supporter. So, you can forget him. Unfortunately, I live in his county.:(

BHP FAN
January 27, 2013, 03:25 AM
I am pleased, and proud, that my Sheriff is saying ''no'' to any unconstitional ''laws''!

somerandomguy
January 27, 2013, 04:44 AM
FML I hate Iowa. Why can't our law enforcement get some brass?

JRH6856
January 27, 2013, 07:45 AM
So why is Obama not enforcing federal laws for medical/recreational marijuana and letting various states "unconstitutionally" violate them? (See post #27)

Perhaps for the same reason he is not investigation 4473 violation. Biden told the NRA, they don' t have the time or manpower. But I don't really know or care so maybe you should just ask him.

EBK
January 27, 2013, 10:22 PM
I see no Iowa sheriffs on the list, Guess I will be moving to Missouri soon

hammerclaw56
January 28, 2013, 07:26 AM
i have read on facebook , statements that Harnett co. and Lee co. sheriffs will stand by the constitution.THEY ARE REAL MEN !!!!!!!!!!!

parsimonious_instead
January 28, 2013, 07:42 AM
Glad to see some NY Sherriffs on that list, but they're WAAAAYYY upstate.

As for Nevada, I'm surprised to not see more on the list, particularly Washoe, a part of the state I'm especially fond of...

Well Now
January 28, 2013, 07:54 AM
Being that most, if not all sheriff positions are elected, a lot of those sheriff's are hesitant about letting their positions known at this time, not wanting to lose favor with other county officials.

Shanghai McCoy
January 28, 2013, 08:00 AM
Interesting that the only sheriff in Kansass is the one from Johnson County, which is pretty much the affluent suburb county of KCMO...

r1derbike
January 28, 2013, 10:54 AM
Sent an email to our newly elected sheriff asking about his stance, and his is for no infringement. Brought-up his oath he took, and other pro-gun thoughts. He is a CHCL instructor as well.

Cannot reprint, as it had a reprint/only for recipient clause, but it was supportive of our rights across the board. Stand-up guy.

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