Who can say they shoot revovlers better.


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Rob96
February 2, 2003, 01:43 PM
While I have no problems shooting my two semi's accurately , especially my G19. I just seem to shoot my KGP-141 better than anything I own. Today I took it too the range, and I was just plowing the center of the target in nice controlled but quick paced pulls of the trigger. Don't know why. Maybe when I am shooting my GP I have a different frame set and know I can't spray and pray. I don't do that with my Glock either. Just weird how I noticed I shoot the revovler better.

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Maestro
February 2, 2003, 01:50 PM
I shot revolvers for many years before owning a semi.So I shoot them better.But now,I prefer the semi's for plinking and carry.The revolvers for more refined shooting and hunting.

Shane
February 2, 2003, 01:55 PM
In double action, revolvers are hard to hit precisionly with. However, 99% of the time I shoot revolvers in single actioin, and I can hit better with revolvers than semi-autos.


This especially holds true at far ranges, where the revolvers extra sight radius makes a difference (most of my revolvers have AT LEAST a 6" barrel).

JoeHatley
February 2, 2003, 04:10 PM
"In double action, revolvers are hard to hit with."

Sorry, but I just couldn't let a statement like that go...

http://elwood.pionet.net/~hatley/pc625.jpg

It just takes a bit of practice.

Joe

Rob96
February 2, 2003, 04:28 PM
Thats what I'm talking about Joe. When at the range with my Rugers I never shoot them in SA, it's not te way I would do it in a real situation, so I don't shoot 'em that way.

MJRW
February 2, 2003, 04:36 PM
Shane,

There is no difference in the accuracy of a revolver between double action and single action. The difference is how consistently the shooter pulls the trigger and holds and points the firearm. Everything but the trigger remains the same.

I shoot revolvers better. I actually shoot them better double action. I'd like to point out, that better is still a far cry from good.

Jason Demond
February 2, 2003, 06:00 PM
I have always shot better with a revolver.

larryw
February 2, 2003, 06:05 PM
I shoot better with a wheel gun as well. Biggest question in my mind is, why is that so?

Shane
February 2, 2003, 06:13 PM
There is no difference in the accuracy of a revolver between double action and single action. The difference is how consistently the shooter pulls the trigger and holds and points the firearm. Everything but the trigger remains the same.

I know, but a short and light trigger pull (SA) is inherently easier to shoot accurately than a long and heavy trigger pull (DA). Most of the DA triggers I've tried are not even smooth, so you often also have to deal with imperfections in the double action arc. No doubt with tons of practice one can do very good with a DA trigger, but IMO it will never equal a SA trigger for long distance hitting. How many revolver hunters use the DA trigger mode to hunt with? IME, not many. Most hunters I know use SA triggers to take long shots, even if their revolver has DA capability.

Gary A
February 2, 2003, 06:35 PM
I also shoot revolvers better and, over time, have dramatically improved how well I can shoot them double-action. As was said above, just practice goes a long way. I have read and agree that there is a rhythm to double-action revolver shooting. I ain't smart enough to explain it but with practice it becomes apparent and it is super fun and satisfying to do.

Arub
February 2, 2003, 07:19 PM
Before Friday I would have joined the 'revolvers' group. Took my GP141 and a P944 to the range. I shot circles around the revolver with the auto chucker. Just one of those days, I guess.

Neil Casper
February 2, 2003, 07:39 PM
I can shoot my S&W Model 19 double action about as well as I can shoot any autoloaders. The same with my S&W Model 18. I shoot that better DA then I could my old S&W 41. The 41 was a very accurate autoloader, but I never could get the hang of it.

Kronos
February 2, 2003, 08:08 PM
I do shoot better with medium frame DA revolvers than with any automatic. I can't say I know why, but I'd rather face serious unpleasantness with a smith .357 and a couple of speedloaders than with a 1911 and 3 magazines.

Old Fuff
February 2, 2003, 08:10 PM
Neatly done Joe - that's a nice group.

I find it far easier to hit while shooting double-action with a revolver vs. a DAO pistol. But admitedly I prefer pre-war Smith & Weson's with the older "long action." These were always smoother then the later "short action" and when combined with a set of Wolff springs are unsurpased. Those who are interested in double-action revolver shooting should get a copy of Ed McGivern's book "Fast & Fancy Revolver Shooting and see how the master did it. So far as shooting in the single-action mode I don't see much difference between revolvers vs. pistols, but I think revolvers are usually more accurate - other then true traget grade pistols, but they cost two to three times what a revolver does.

Mike Irwin
February 2, 2003, 09:38 PM
For me it depends on the gun.

The gun I can shoot best, hands down, is a P7M8 or M13.

After that, thought, come my revolvers, with my 1911 and my Hi Power somewhere in the middle of the pack.

10-Ring
February 2, 2003, 09:49 PM
After shooting pistols semi auto only, I forced myself to learn how to shoot DAO. I've learned that w/ enough practice, it can be done & it's VERY satisfying shooting revolvers & pistols DA...
As for the original question of this thread...I shoot revolvers as well ;)

cratz2
February 2, 2003, 10:40 PM
The handgun I shoot the best with is my 6" Dan Wesson 22 revolver. At 100 yards, I like to keep about 80% of the shots within 6". Sometimes it comes easy, sometimes, not so easy.

For centerfire, I probably shoot the best with the 1911. Followed by the CZ75 design and the Taurus PT99. Then the 686. I've never really tried to shoot super accurately with the centerfire revolvers. I never considered carrying them and even though we have the 686 as the primary house handgun, 7 yards isn't much of a problem. ;)

The wife usually practices with the Dan Wesson and the 686. I don't think she's ever shot my Taurus and that is the centerfire handgun I've put the most rounds through.

bpisler
February 2, 2003, 10:42 PM
I seem to be just as accurate with my 625 mountain gun in 45 colt but slower compared to my glocks.The times are getting better the more i practice,after all it takes a little getting used to firing 255gr compared to 115gr's.

Poohgyrr
February 2, 2003, 11:04 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that I can still improve. And I usually shoot revolvers more accurately than all but one (Coonan) of the autos I have ever shot.

About accuracy, check out PPC and that competition I can't spell where they shoot way far away at tiny steel animal shaped targets. Look at the revolver shot targets.

I've been lucky to shoot with a few local old time shooters who really knew (and still know) how to shoot revolvers. That kind of accuracy and speed is attainable, but not without work. Same with autos.

NeverAgain26
February 2, 2003, 11:39 PM
My S&W 686 was hanging out in my GunVault loaded up for HD and rarely came out to play. I have enough semi-autos to have fun with. I took it out sometimes to give newbies some experience with revos when I was showing them the ropes.

The other day, I took it out as I was worried that the sight was knocked out of alignment when it nicked the lip of the vault one too many times. I brought along 3 boxes of ammo and went down to the range.

Sights were dead on, so no worries there.

But I have to say I have never had such a great day at the range. At 25 yards free hand I had lots of X rings, plenty of tens and nines and a few eights. I developed a new respect for revos.

I am taking my semi-autos down tomorrow to see if it's me or the revo.

In any case, I just put up one of my semi-autos (Beretta 9000) for sale and intend to devote the proceeds to a nice carry revo (not sure which one yet).

I also ran the gun at 7 yards with quick target acquisition and shooting double action every shot and ran through 50 rounds in a short time with most shots clustering in a 4" center with some shots out to 8". But that was on the draw with little time to aim.

Needless to say, I love the firepower of semi-autos, but I think it is time for me to devote some funds and range time to revo proficiency.

NA26

M58
February 3, 2003, 12:21 AM
Started with revolvers.
Can handle autos.
Still prefer Rev.
(never qualified with autos as high as I did with revo.):neener:

Dave Williams
February 3, 2003, 03:47 AM
shoot better with revolvers.

Dave

Rob96
February 3, 2003, 06:23 AM
Basically I was also saying the same thing, "Just can't figure out why". Maybe in our subconcious we are more deliberate in our shots than we are with a semi. The reason I posted this, I was considerring trading my KGP-141 on a future purchase, but decided to take it out one more time just to see if I really wanted to trade it. Weather wasn't to great and I was a little tired, but I concentrated on the task at hand. I was astonished at how well I did, because I haven't shot this gun in a little while. Sat back and thought to myself, "There is no way I can trade this gun". It was like rediscovering something.

Tamara
February 3, 2003, 07:09 AM
I shoot better with revolvers; specifically double action revolvers.

Why? Well, I spend a lot more time practicing with them; it's a lot easier to sit around the house and do a few zillion dry-snaps with something you don't have to cock the hammer on.

Penman
February 3, 2003, 09:25 PM
When shooters find that they shoot better with the double action stroke of a revolver, it may be because it's easier to get a "surprise break" on the trigger, where the hammer falls without the shooter anticipating the shot and flinching slightly. If you have a smooth double action stroke, you are concentrating on your sight alignment, and don't anticipate the shot, as you would with a single action trigger. Most revolvers also have smoother and lighter single and double action strokes than semi autos, and that would also provide a large advantage. One advantage to a double action stroke is that the hammer falls in a shorter arc than with a cocked, single action position. Take out your revolver, CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT'S EMPTY AND POINT IT AT A SAFE BACKSTOP, and dry fire it double action. Note how far back the hammer moves before it falls, and compare that to the cocked position. Ifr the sights are properly aligned, the shorter hammer arc of the double action shot provides a faster lock time, and less likelihood that the gun will move off target before the shot.

jar
February 4, 2003, 12:20 PM
I guess I fall in the Shoot Revolvers better than semi-s group, not that either are really that great. I particular, I shoot revolvers MUCH better weak hand than any of my semis weak hand.

And I have a theory about why it might be true.

First, in a revolver, the center of mass is much closer to the front of the gun then on a semi-automatic. Just as you add weight to the barrel of a gun to increase accuracy, this inherent forward mass may give revolvers a slight advantage.

Second, for a given barrel length, the revolver will have the longer effective barrel length. Just because of the way the barrels are measured, a 4" revolver will have about an inch longer actual barrel than a 4" semi-automatic.

Third, the weight and balance of a revolver remains more constant during firing. The revolver retains the weight of the empty casings and that weight remains in the cylinder which is above and forward of the trigger. In a semi-automatic, the casing is ejected and throughout the round the center of mass of the gun will change as the grip gets lighter.

I don't know how valid these observations really are, but I'd certainly be interested in hearing your comments.

sixgun_symphony
February 4, 2003, 06:21 PM
I always shot best with a DA revolver in SA mode.

The SA trigger is lighter and breaks clean while the DA trigger is long and heavy.

Edward429451
February 4, 2003, 09:52 PM
Gotta be the revolver in DA mode especially as distances increase. I see some truth in what one poster said about more deliberation in revolver shooting. Thinking about it I dont practice exactly the same way with my semi's as with my revolvers, cept the Bulldog. Semi practice is for quick (er) minute of felon size double or triple taps. Revolver practice I tend to slow down just a bit in anticipation of a game related shot in which I'd have more time. Maybe.<shrug>

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