Would you give some to get some back?


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solman
January 27, 2013, 06:28 PM
OK I am going out on a limb here but..
Why doesn't Obama get rid of some of the crazy red tape and bureaucracy from our present gun laws before asking us to give up more.
I am pro 2A and an NRA life member but was wondering if people on this forum would be willing to bend on Magazine capacity if the draconian rules and red tape was removed from legitimate gun owners trying to buy a gun. Again this is just to voice thoughts on the issue. I know living in New Jersey it's a long and tying process to get a permit to purchase a handgun. The wait can run not weeks but months to get an ID card or a permit to purchase. These permits which take so long to get then expire and you have to go through it again the next time you want a handgun. I think its time they give us something before asking for more restrictions.

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jdex
January 27, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nope, I wouldn't here in KY I walk out with it 5 minutes after saying "i'll take it" I see no trade off for me.

Solo
January 27, 2013, 06:30 PM
No.

skeeziks
January 27, 2013, 06:32 PM
Oh, here we go again!

Mod's...?

Fremmer
January 27, 2013, 06:33 PM
NO NEW GUN CONTROL! No! No more compromise or giving or not having. None of it.

Obama will reduce red tape in exchange for my 2nd amendment constitutional rights? Yeah sure. NO!

jamesbeat
January 27, 2013, 06:34 PM
No, even though I live in NY.

freyasman
January 27, 2013, 06:35 PM
Hey guy... you're playing "just the tip" with a bunch of rapists

wheelgun6T9
January 27, 2013, 06:36 PM
zero compromise.

RetiredUSNChief
January 27, 2013, 06:40 PM
No.

The wording in the Second Amendment is clear enough. There is no reason whatsoever to compromise.

It would be a meaningless as compromising on the First Amendment Freedom of Speech or the Thirteenth Amendment issue with slavery.

Texan Scott
January 27, 2013, 06:44 PM
New Jersey can compromise, concede, relenquish, or submit anything its citizens are willing to lose forever in exchange for their foolish belief in a politician's promise. Count Texas out.

I'll tell you the same thing I tell all the other judas goats... NO, go away.

traderpats
January 27, 2013, 06:44 PM
How about the radical left "compromising" and instead of infringing on our God given rights they do the decent thing for once and address mental health issues? You know, the main issue that could possibly make a difference? Now THAT would be a "compromise" most could support....

skeeziks
January 27, 2013, 06:46 PM
New York compromised and look where THAT got them!

twsnnva
January 27, 2013, 06:50 PM
I know living in New Jersey it's a long and tying process to get a permit to purchase a handgun. The wait can run not weeks but months to get an ID card or a permit to purchase.

That's all NJ state stuff. Here in the Commonwealth of Virginia we don't have purchase permits and I've never had a firearm purchase (pistol or otherwise) take more than 10 minutes. Heck, getting my CHP took less than 6 weeks.

I'm all for creating a system that allows privates sellers to perform a background check if they choose, but not for making it mandatory.

blkbrd666
January 27, 2013, 07:05 PM
New York compromised and look where THAT got them!

Looks like NJ must have already compromised at some point.

Romeo 33 Delta
January 27, 2013, 07:10 PM
Guys ... remember that skit on the Andy Williams show ... the one with the bear, knocking on the door and always asking for cookies?

Here's my answer: "NO! NOT NOW! NOT EVER"!

I am I clear enough?

Kim
January 27, 2013, 07:13 PM
NO.

Gimmered
January 27, 2013, 07:17 PM
No. What you have is a New Jersey problem. Don't take away from Nebraska to fix New Jersey.

psyopspec
January 27, 2013, 07:32 PM
New Jersey can compromise, concede, relenquish, or submit anything its citizens are willing to lose forever in exchange for their foolish belief in a politician's promise.

And they and other states have done so. I assure anyone who wants to look that if you go back to the introduction and ratification of these state level gun laws, the words "reasonable" and "compromise" will have been used somewhere in the process as they made their way through the legislature.

Would you give some to get some back?

No. Especially your example, where you propose giving up magazine capacity in the form of a federal law in exchange for doing away with state-level restrictions that would at best make NJ more typical compared to other states.

Queen_of_Thunder
January 27, 2013, 07:39 PM
Well my suggestion is for you to move. I see no reason for any Texan to give up a Right so someone in NJ can have things easier.

Just in case you don't understand: NO COMROMISE. NEVER.

Sam1911
January 27, 2013, 07:41 PM
There have indeed been a WHOLE LOT of "which of someone's rights would you sacrifice for ..." threads recently. They all seem to end the same way.

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