Personal defense weapons if the government has them


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Grassman
January 27, 2013, 09:41 PM
The Department of Homeland Security is seeking to acquire 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons” (PDW) — also known as “assault weapons” when owned by civilians. The solicitation, originally posted on June 7, 2012, comes to light as the Obama administration is calling for a ban on semi-automatic rifles and high capacity magazines.

Citing a General Service Administration (GSA) request for proposal (RFP), Steve McGough of RadioViceOnline.com reports that DHS is asking for the 7,000 “select-fire” firearms because they are “suitable for personal defense use in close quarters.” The term select-fire means the weapon can be both semi-automatic and automatic. Civilians are prohibited from obtaining these kinds of weapons.

The RFP describes the firearm as “Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) – 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required.” Additionally, DHS is asking for 30 round magazines that “have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.”

Republican New York state Sen. Greg Ball also issued a press release this week bringing attention to the weapons purchase request.

Calls made to DHS seeking information regarding whether or not the RFP was accepted and fulfilled were not immediately returned on Saturday.

Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) on Thursday introduced legislation that would enact a so-called “assault weapons” ban. The bill would ban more than 150 firearms and limit magazines to 10 rounds. There is no expiration date on Feinstein’s bill.

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Siaharok
January 27, 2013, 09:50 PM
Can anyone give me a logical explanation why the DHS needs 7000 rifles? I can't figure it out.

BHP FAN
January 27, 2013, 09:53 PM
Because they'll need them when they come to take ours.

Texan Scott
January 27, 2013, 09:54 PM
Why would ANYONE need high-powered, large capacity assault weapons? They're only good for killing large numbers of people as quickly as possible, right?

Oh. ... OH!

allaroundhunter
January 27, 2013, 09:55 PM
Can anyone give me a logical explanation why the DHS needs 7000 rifles? I can't figure it out.

Have you seen what goes on at the Southern border of the US?....

Huskerguy
January 27, 2013, 09:57 PM
I assume these are to arm the newly formed "FEMA" army. They will shoot the millions of rounds of hollow point ammo that has been ordered.

gossamer
January 27, 2013, 09:59 PM
Link? Source material? Proof? Otherwise, more conspiracy theory.

PGT
January 27, 2013, 10:02 PM
another thread on this? the other one is active just this morning

gunnutery
January 27, 2013, 10:09 PM
Why would ANYONE need high-powered, large capacity assault weapons? They're only good for killing large numbers of people as quickly as possible, right?

Oh. ... OH!

I see what you did there :) and it was spot on. The kicker is that the PDW's they're looking at buying is an ACTUAL assault rifle with selective fire. But NNOOOO, semi-auto only get called "assault rifles." GRRR!

Siaharok
January 27, 2013, 10:10 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/26/if-assault-weapons-are-bad-why-does-the-dhs-want-to-buy-7000-of-them-for-personal-defense/

AR-15Nutt
January 27, 2013, 10:23 PM
Can anyone give me a logical explanation why the DHS needs 7000 rifles? I can't figure it out.

true or false this is a joke ?

true or false this is ignorance ?

true or false this is extreme sarcasm ?

true or false should i :banghead:

ApacheCoTodd
January 27, 2013, 10:34 PM
A "Chicago style politics" attempt at currying favor with a manufacturer/s?

Contract buys silence if not outright support?

Remember S&W's rollover.

Another way to analyze the decision is the ballistic version of "follow the money" in an investigation. In this case - hypothetically imagine looking down the sights of these weapons. What's down range for them?

AR-15Nutt
January 27, 2013, 10:44 PM
come now gossamer, it is all over the i-net news sites Drudge, WND, FOX, News Max, even the lying lame stream media has it, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc, etc. to no end !


just type or C&P to "Goooogle" this:

Department of Homeland Security wants to buy 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO Rifles

Clean97GTI
January 27, 2013, 11:18 PM
Can anyone give me a logical explanation why the DHS needs 7000 rifles? I can't figure it out.
the us cost guard is part of the dhs.

helotaxi
January 28, 2013, 12:38 AM
Have you seen what goes on at the Southern border of the US?....
Sure have. And it explains the purchase request very well. Who else is going to supply the cartels with more guns?

arizona98tj
January 28, 2013, 12:45 AM
Have you seen what goes on at the Southern border of the US?....

So....since Obama nor DHS has any intention of securing the border, you are saying that DHS is going to be passing these select fire rifles out to those of us that live in Arizona, NM, Texas, and CA? OK....I guess that will work for now. Mighty nice of them to help out. :rolleyes:

Sam Cade
January 28, 2013, 12:53 AM
the us cost guard is part of the dhs.


As is Customs,the Secret Service, FEMA and half a dozen other agencies. My gosh, their combined budgets have got to be untold billions.

Trent
January 28, 2013, 01:24 AM
I thought all those illegals were going to be made US Citizens?

Why do we need so many rifles on the border, then?

;)

PRM
January 28, 2013, 07:54 AM
Link? Source material? Proof? Otherwise, more conspiracy theory - gossamer

Conspiracy theory ... Its not hard to Google it. Fox reported it over the weekend and there are a number of sites reporting it.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/26/if-assault-weapons-are-bad-why-does-the-dhs-want-to-buy-7000-of-them-for-personal-defense/

The government confiscated guns during Katrina. So coming after law abiding citizens guns already has a history. Make no mistake - the current administration is in bed and on-board with the gun grabbers. The verbiage is there.

Feinstein said on CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995, "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it.

Rep. Charles Rangel is under assault for comment that "Southern areas have cultures that we have to overcome" when it comes to gun control.

Why are government agencies stockpiling weapons like the "assault rifle" (personal defensive rifle)??? To use against its citizens.

Law abiding citizens need to be thinking about what freedom means to them, and get active if any of our 2nd Amendment freedoms and Constitutional rights are to remain.

BoilerUP
January 28, 2013, 08:12 AM
Click the links in The Blaze article folks...they go right to the actual RFP where one can see Immigration & Customs Enforcement is the agency requesting the rifles.

CDW4ME
January 28, 2013, 08:33 AM
So, if they have it, it's a "personal defense weapon"; if we have it it's an "assault weapon". :barf:

PGT
January 28, 2013, 09:29 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=699145

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