Am I Safer If My Neighbor Has A Gun?


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Westfair
January 28, 2013, 06:12 AM
I'm sure most of us would answer a resounding YES. But if you know someone on the fence, this might get them thinking:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarotta/2013/01/27/am-i-safer-if-my-neighbor-has-a-gun/

It also gives an interesting insight on how DC has lowered it's crime rate and it has NOTHING to do with gun control.

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Resist Evil
January 28, 2013, 06:20 AM
misfire.

Westfair
January 28, 2013, 06:41 AM
Misfire?

Resist Evil
January 28, 2013, 06:43 AM
I wrote something and after I posted it, I didn't like it. I deleted it.

Westfair
January 28, 2013, 06:44 AM
Ahh, gotcha. :)

JFrame
January 28, 2013, 08:38 AM
Wow -- that is an excellent little article... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/good2.gif

Among other things, it subtly makes the case that politicians are unwilling to tackle the difficult social reasons for violence (including firearm violence), opting instead to simply demonize the inanimate objects that, in fact, may be the BEST deterrent to violence.


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Westfair
January 28, 2013, 10:53 AM
Wow -- that is an excellent little article... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/good2.gif

Among other things, it subtly makes the case that politicians are unwilling to tackle the difficult social reasons for violence (including firearm violence), opting instead to simply demonize the inanimate objects that, in fact, may be the BEST deterrent to violence.


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My thoughts exactly. I also enjoy finding articles like this outside the normal circles we usually find to be gun friendly. While I don't read Forbes regularly, this sort of surprised me when it popped up.

MErl
January 28, 2013, 11:42 AM
could have been a little more focused, it seemed to ramble around. starting off talking crime demographics and ending on 2nd protecting against tyranny isn't a straightforward path.

Were still a couple good points in there though.
Perhaps the optimum situation is to be the only household without a gun in a neighborhood where most homeowners are suspected to have one.

Isaac-1
January 28, 2013, 12:00 PM
When asking this question, keep in mind it depends on the neighbor, over the years I know I have had a few where I felt safer knowing I have a gun.

holdencm9
January 28, 2013, 12:19 PM
I agree it could have been more focused and had more citations for all the claims it makes. Not that I disagree with them, but any anti that sees an article that says 2.5 million defensive uses of guns without a citation to a study, will just shrug it off as a lie.

Then again, even if you do cite a study, they'll just say the study is flawed/biased. But it is still better than nothing.

oneounceload
January 28, 2013, 12:27 PM
It also gives an interesting insight on how DC has lowered it's crime rate and it has NOTHING to do with gun control.

Why is that surprising? Crime is ALWAYS highest in the poorest, welfare zones. get rid of the ne'er-do-wells, and voila! Crime goes down

slamfirev10
January 28, 2013, 12:38 PM
good article, will pass it on, thanks

Westfair
January 28, 2013, 12:41 PM
Why is that surprising? Crime is ALWAYS highest in the poorest, welfare zones. get rid of the ne'er-do-wells, and voila! Crime goes down

Not sure I feigned any surprise. But read it as you will. As you can see, I'm from Washington State, not Washington D.C. so I'm not intimately familiar with the changes going on there. But in general, yes - ne'er-do-wells down, crime down.

Skribs
January 28, 2013, 01:31 PM
I like the point that if you want the safety a gun provides without the chance of injury due to accidental discharge, you should be the only non-gun-owner in a neighborhood full of them. The opposite position of most of the anti-gun crowd (none of my neighbors should have guns because they might snap and shoot everyone).

jamesbeat
January 28, 2013, 03:17 PM
Who needs a gun for home defense anyway?

These women foiled a home invasion simply by shouting 'Jesus':

http://m.news4jax.com/news/Women-order-armed-robber-out-in-Jesus-name/-/16626108/18295714/-/7skdxj/-/index.html

Maybe this is what the antis would prefer we do...

12131
January 28, 2013, 03:20 PM
Am I Safer If My Neighbor Has A Gun?
Not really. You (we) are safer, if you have a gun, not your neighbor. Safety depends on you, not someone else.

Texan Scott
January 28, 2013, 03:55 PM
We slept the soundest when our next-door neighbor was a state police officer and parked his patrol car out front. (...) Perhaps the optimum situation is to be the only household without a gun in a neighborhood where most homeowners are suspected to have one.

A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” ― John Stuart Mill

My guns are for my wife and kids' safety. Be a man and get your own, Mr. Forbes columnist.

jamesbeat
January 28, 2013, 06:37 PM
My guns are for my wife and kids' safety. Be a man and get your own, Mr. Forbes columnist.
Precisely.

Although this doesn't just apply to men. My wife knows her way around a pump, and a mother's instinct to protect her children is formidable.

Texan Scott
January 28, 2013, 06:54 PM
LOL.. jamesbeat, MY guns are for my wife's and kids' safety first, even if my own safety has to come second. My wife knows this, which is why her gun is likewise for her husband's and kids' safety. She has stood behind my shoulder with a loaded .38 more than once in our marriage, and don't think I don't appreciate it.

J-Bar
January 28, 2013, 07:28 PM
Thanks for posting this link.

"Ignoring the possibility [of a tyrannical government] is a mistake free people get to make only once."

cambeul41
January 28, 2013, 07:55 PM
"Am I Safer If My Neighbor Has A Gun?"

Of course, it depends on the neighbor.

I know some of mine do. I hope the rest do.

Byrd666
January 28, 2013, 08:19 PM
And he speaks so much truth.

SharpsDressedMan
January 28, 2013, 09:08 PM
My neighbors are safer. If they were in danger, I'd act in their behalf at any time. Every neighbor should do the same for each other, and I believe my neighbors would, too.

Westfair
January 29, 2013, 06:08 AM
My neighbors are safer. If they were in danger, I'd act in their behalf at any time. Every neighbor should do the same for each other, and I believe my neighbors would, too.
Exactly - I think people need to remember if they have neighbors than THEY are a neighbor to somebody else. Even if you don't agree with someone else's ideology it really shouldn't stop you from being a stand up neighbor and help them in a time of need or danger.

Jolly Rogers
January 29, 2013, 06:36 AM
Only if he likes you.
Joe

beatledog7
January 29, 2013, 08:04 AM
The article never achieves any focus. I'm surprised it made Forbes. Still, even without citation, it does make a few interesting points that many readers will not have considered.

The question its title asks is never close to answered. Reminds me of that video in which people pose as anti-gunners and go around asking homeowners if they'd mind having a "we have no guns" or something like that on their lawn, and getting no takers.

My neighbors are not safer because of my guns--they are safer because every criminal knows that every household might have a gun.

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