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January 28, 2013, 10:40 AM
I have a hornady lnl and was wondering what powder check die everyone is using.

thanks in advance

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Spammy_H
January 28, 2013, 11:06 AM
I have the Hornady, and it works well. Easy to adjust. Just clean it well to prevent powder from sticking to the foot.

I had thought about the RCBS check die, but liked the simplicity of the Hornady one.

Hadn't tried the lockout die yet. I don't want to make it so automatic that I'm not thinking.

cfullgraf
January 28, 2013, 11:25 AM
I also am using the Hornady powder cop die on my Hornady progressive. It is about the only place I use the Lee o-ring lock rings as this die gets adjusted with each cartridge change. I load 10 different cartridges on the Hornady changing the press frequently.

Easy to adjust and set as Spammy H said.

i also have not tried the RCBS lock out die. It looks like it is more difficult to adjust correctly and it is too expensive to buy one for each cartridge that I load. But, like i said, I have not used one and perception may not be reality.

Spammy_H
January 28, 2013, 11:31 AM
Chuck - good idea on the Lee lock ring. I still have one or two of those. I'll try it out.

UnderTheGun
January 28, 2013, 12:25 PM
I use the RCBS. No issues on changing from one caliber to another. Has functioned fine for several years.

CatManDo
January 28, 2013, 12:32 PM
I have a couple of the Lock Out Dies; when ANYTHING is out of whack, either the no powder or excess powder, it shuts the Press down, period.

GT1
January 28, 2013, 01:36 PM
I use lock outs.

The only thing about the Hornady, is you have to watch it, which kind of negates the point, might as well just set up a press light and look in every case(If you are properly set up in relation to your bench, press, to eyes, it is easy to do so, anyway).

vtail
January 28, 2013, 08:05 PM
Definitely get the RCBS lock out die.

The Hornady die just indicates where the powder is. You still have to be watching it.

The RCBS locks the press down.

When I first started reloading 9mm with my LNL, I had everything set up perfectly and was going along just fine when all of a sudden the press locked up. I knew I hadn't missed a round with the powder, so I start checking everything to see what was binding.

Finally, after at least five minutes, I checked the case under the lock out die and it had no powder. I would have bet you a thousand dollars that there was nothing wrong with any powder in any of the cases.

If I hadn't had the lock out die, I would have missed it.

Still to this day I don't know what happened to cause me to not charge that case, but I did, and it caught it. Kind of scared the hell out of me.

I will not run my LNL without that lock out die in place and set.

It's frustrating to set up the first couple of time, but keep trying until you figure it out.

morrow
January 28, 2013, 08:07 PM
^^^ agreed
The Hornady powder cop die is junk. May as well just visually check cases. It's about the same safety wise.

The only ones i'd ever use is the RCBS lock out die or the Dillon power check die.

ColtPythonElite
January 28, 2013, 08:11 PM
The Hornady has worked well for me for several years. Yeah, you gotta pay attention to what you are doing. Of course, you should do that anyway.

sjd78
January 28, 2013, 10:36 PM
Another vote for the RCBS lock out die. Once you learn how to adjust it, it's easy and quick to do. I won't reload without one!

ConcernedCitizen
January 28, 2013, 10:59 PM
I also use the RCBS lockout die. I visually check every case too, but the lockout die always catches them before I do. I like being the second line of defense.

I've had a few empty cases lately due to powder buildup on the stem of the powder measure. It would occasionally stick in the up position, which wouldn't drop any powder in the next case. The lockout die caught them immediately. I've since cleaned the powder measure, and haven't had the problem since, but it's nice knowing that the lockout die is doing it's job.

I've also had the lockout die catch a .380 case that I missed during sizing. It was too short to activate the powder measure, and when it hit the lockout die, I somehow managed to use enough force to crush the case completely! I thought it was just a tough primer to decap, and it didn't take much more force than normal to buckle the .380 case completely. That lockout die is solid when it locks up.

Mike 27
January 28, 2013, 11:31 PM
The RCBS is awesome, set it and forget it. Let's you pay attention to everything else. I still watch the powder in the shell case before seating. Mine starts locking at between .2-.3 off of the adjustment.

119er
January 28, 2013, 11:47 PM
I too load on the LNL AP and I use the RCBS lock out die with all the pistol cartridges and the Hornady Powder Cop with all rifle. I had some issues with the powder cop at first but after some easy fixes and learning how to make adjustments, it works great.

These are threads I started about the issues I had and how I resolved them.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=686876&highlight=powder+cop+issues

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=689380&highlight=powder+cop+issues

BYJO4
January 28, 2013, 11:57 PM
I began with the Hornady Powder Cop Die and it worked great but you must watch it every time you pull the handle which is not going to happen 100% of the time. I switched to the RCBS Lockout Die about about 1 1/2 years ago and it has been completely reliable. I now have one set up for each of my pistol calibers so I have no adjusting when changing from one to another. I think they are an excellent safety precaution.

dickttx
January 29, 2013, 11:44 AM
I too would not reload on a progressive without the RCBS Lock-out die. And I still visually check the powder level before I set a bullet.
I am a cheap skate and only have one of the $50 dies. The biggest hassle is changing the plastic foot between 38 Super and 45 ACP. It is pretty easy to set off the press. I check it for no load, load, and double load each time I set up to reload. It has never failed a test.

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