3 notable testimonies from today's public CT Gun Violence panel


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mberoose
January 29, 2013, 12:14 AM
Excellent.

Henson -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyYYgLzF6zU

Linda -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJmlz40su4

Derek -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtZjUcze-k0

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friscolatchi
January 29, 2013, 01:17 AM
Henson is excellent. Thanks for sharing.

goon
January 29, 2013, 01:17 AM
I felt a stir of pride when Henson was speaking. Whether English is his first language or not, I'd have that man as my neighbor any time.

4v50 Gary
January 29, 2013, 01:32 AM
Sometimes it takes an immigrant to appreciate what natives take for granted.

jamesbeat
January 29, 2013, 01:32 AM
All three were fantastic, but my favorite was Henson too.
As a fellow legal immigrant, I share his bewilderment about how all this can even happen here in the States.
The thing that sets America apart from the rest of the Western world is the Constitution.
Watching so-called 'Americans' trying to destroy this great nation from the inside out by attacking the Constitution is heartbreaking.

jamesbeat
January 29, 2013, 01:33 AM
Sometimes it takes an immigrant to appreciate what natives take for granted.
Beat me to it :D

Ignition Override
January 29, 2013, 01:42 AM
Superb, with excellent command of English.

Zardaia
January 29, 2013, 01:46 AM
Yep, all three were good but Henson was special. Too many of us that were born here take things for granted and/or drink to much progressive kool aid. Great to see a legal immigrant who gets the point of the 2A and supports it, rather than certain others that flee england only to try and turn us into the place they left.

Popular thread i guess, three others in the time it took to write this on iphone :)

General Geoff
January 29, 2013, 01:52 AM
I have to ask, this is three out of how many speakers total?

goon
January 29, 2013, 02:47 AM
In Connecticut... Probably not enough.

somerandomguy
January 29, 2013, 06:06 AM
Nice! Thanks.

Blackstone
January 29, 2013, 06:21 AM
Thanks for posting

gunNoob
January 29, 2013, 06:44 AM
Good stuff. Some people who actually have brains.

gunNoob
January 29, 2013, 06:51 AM
Thought this was good. The father of one of the murdered children is on our side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0xLbhWsUfE

RetiredUSNChief
January 29, 2013, 07:21 AM
Great videos!

Again, as asked before...how many people total are we talking about here, in terms of testimonies?

Boostedtwo
January 29, 2013, 09:52 AM
I have to give it to Hansen.

mberoose
January 29, 2013, 10:35 AM
I have to ask, this is three out of how many speakers total?

Around 1,300. Over 16 hours of testimony, went til 3 a.m. Probably 80%+ pro-gun. Even one of the CT Firearms Permit Examiners testified against the proposed bills.

mberoose
January 29, 2013, 11:13 AM
Oh, and here's what one of the biggest proponents of gun control, Senator Beth Bye, does while at the hearing.

http://i.imgur.com/0tzKxU4.png

http://i.imgur.com/D2GLzwE.jpg?1

jamesbeat
January 29, 2013, 11:46 AM
Thought this was good. The father of one of the murdered children is on our side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0xLbhWsUfE
That poor, poor man :(

It is certainly significant that this guy, who is clearly an intelligent and articulate man, is speaking out, not particularly to defend gun ownership, but to tell these idiots that they are barking up the wrong tree.

No new laws, simply enforce the ones we already have.

I thought that the part where he said that he would not condone a new law even if they called it 'James' Law' was particularly effective.

jamesbeat
January 29, 2013, 11:48 AM
Oh, and here's what one of the biggest proponents of gun control, Senator Beth Bye, does while at the hearing.

http://i.imgur.com/0tzKxU4.png

http://i.imgur.com/D2GLzwE.jpg?1
She doesn't need to hear the other side of the argument because she already knows she's right.

Many people would lose their job if they were sitting on facebook during a meeting, pity she won't.

Maybe we should all send her emails asking her why she was messing around on facebook during an important meeting, while getting paid for it on taxpayer's money...

RetiredUSNChief
January 29, 2013, 11:52 AM
Thanks!

Those numbers put these interviews into perspective.

:):)

Manco
January 29, 2013, 12:21 PM
Sometimes it takes an immigrant to appreciate what natives take for granted.

It is easier to see what is going on for what it is when you've seen what has happened in other parts of the world, and have made the effort to learn as much as you can about the history and founding principles of the country you have chosen to make your new home. This isn't true of all immigrants by a long shot, but it does seem to help those who opened their eyes and took a hard look at where this country was and where it is headed, from a more global perspective.

Personally, although I was born a US citizen, I was born and raised for part of my life in another country (a country that became Communist, no less), and I've found that it does make some difference in my perspective, as well. What we've seen elsewhere can happen anywhere, including the US, because at a fundamental level people are people--what's shocking is how the conditions evolved to this stage in the United States...so gradually...so subtly...escaping the notice of most of its citizens.

The conditions I speak of set the stage for the eventual loss of our liberty. Now they're going after our guns (again), but this time around we're not prepared for a violent revolution or reclamation of our country--we have the Constitution, but do not have the leadership in place. The powers that be are testing the waters, as they often do in many areas (e.g. illegal and indefinite incarceration, borrowing and printing money at a rate that will inevitably bankrupt the country)--they're baiting us to see how we'd respond.

All three were fantastic, but my favorite was Henson too.
As a fellow legal immigrant, I share his bewilderment about how all this can even happen here in the States.

Like I said, by and large people are people--the environment and conditions (including culture) are what change, and the people of the United States today are soft in comparison to the people who colonized this land. Time marches ever forward, and we as a people have been unable to fully maintain the same independent spirit we had started out with. Don't get me wrong, our culture remains largely intact and strong, but we're gradually being overwhelmed here. :uhoh:

The thing that sets America apart from the rest of the Western world is the Constitution.
Watching so-called 'Americans' trying to destroy this great nation from the inside out by attacking the Constitution is heartbreaking.

And for the most part, they're doing it with information, controlling (to a significant degree) what our children are taught in school and what we see through the media. They use bad words like "assault" to describe certain rifles with irrelevant features, which basically amounts to begging the question (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question), tainting any argument against a ban (infringement). Then they say things like "How should we address the gun problem in the US?" which intrinsically (and falsely, of course) implies that guns are the actual problem--another form of begging the question (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question); by the way, I put the links in because most people in this country don't even know what the phrase means anymore. It is amazing how such a simple type of logical fallacy, when used repeatedly throughout the media, can have such a devastating effect on our cause--we usually lose any argument before it even starts. Other basic logical fallacies are used heavily as well (often combined with emotions involving murdered children)--up to and including doublethink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink)--against which most Americans these days are helpless on an intellectual level, just as they have been conditioned to be.

Manco
January 29, 2013, 01:13 PM
Around 1,300. Over 16 hours of testimony, went til 3 a.m. Probably 80%+ pro-gun. Even one of the CT Firearms Permit Examiners testified against the proposed bills.

This, as well as the applause in the above videos, is very encouraging--sure makes me feel better. We have to actively promote our ideals--which are American ideals--now more than ever, not merely defend or make excuses for the liberty we still enjoy.

She doesn't need to hear the other side of the argument because she already knows she's right.

Maybe, or possibly she doesn't want to be proven wrong, for some reason.

Maybe we should all send her emails asking her why she was messing around on facebook during an important meeting, while getting paid for it on taxpayer's money...

We should do that, attaching the image to the message and copying her fellow state senators so that they can see it, too. Shame them like they're attempting to shame us. If there is going to be a "big brother" out there, it should be the people watching over those who supposedly represent us.

mberoose
January 29, 2013, 01:21 PM
Somebody on Twitter called her out on it, and she stated she was only there as an "observer" because she is on the mental health panel rather than the gun violence panel....yet, she has introduced a number of proposals against guns and is consistently on the anti-gun soapbox. In fact, she was at the CT 2A rally the other weekend with her "partner" on a tandem bicycle, shaking her head and staring at her phone the whole time. She really downplayed it like she was doing somebody a favor, and had no real obligation or desire to be there. Regardless, her actions were a slap in the face.

armedaccountant
January 29, 2013, 01:24 PM
The NRA needs to reach out to Henson. I think it would be a very positive force to have a patriotic immigrant like him as a spokesperson.

mberoose
January 29, 2013, 01:40 PM
They'd have to reach no farther than The Freedom Shoppe in New Milford CT. :)

guitarguy314
January 29, 2013, 01:59 PM
The second link ("Linda") was awesome. The other two were good, but she was a spitfire! I also totally agree with her, that helps but wow. She was well spoken and...just awesome.

John3921
January 29, 2013, 02:26 PM
Henson was great. Shared it to my facebook.

58limited
January 29, 2013, 07:40 PM
I love how Linda called out the panel members and berated them for not paying attention. All three videos were great!

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