Beretta M9 trigger lock/slide position question


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DeadMoneyDrew
January 28, 2013, 11:20 PM
Hey all,

Here's a noob handgun owner question. I just bought a Beretta M9 a few weeks ago, my first handgun. I like the way it handles and am very happy with it thus far.

In doing my research I learned that it is not wise to store a handgun with the slide open. That conflicts with what I understood from the instructions on the trigger lock that came with the gun. From what I could tell from the instructions the lock is supposed to be employed as such:
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but this requires storing the gun with the slide open. What do I have wrong here? This can't be right.

Here's a little more gun porn for those of you who are nice enough to wade through my noob question!

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Joe I
January 28, 2013, 11:50 PM
If you just put the cable through the trigger guard behind the trigger, is the cable thick enough to keep the trigger from being fully actuated? If so, problem solved.

Otherwise, you could at least release some of the tension on the recoil spring by letting the slide close gently on the cable, leaving the cable the way you have it now.

-Joe

P.S. - If you haven't yet, go to Berettaforum for any Beretta-specific questions that aren't answered here. Tons of info there, and a good group of people, too.

DeadMoneyDrew
January 29, 2013, 12:29 AM
Thanks Joe. The cable is BARELY thick enough to block the trigger when run through the trigger guard, it being so close that I'm not quite comfortable securing the weapon that way. I threaded the lock as shown in the original picture again and released the slide, per your suggestion. Will that cause any long-term damage?

I'll definitely check out berettaforum so thanks for the suggestion.

Ewcmr2
January 29, 2013, 12:38 AM
When did they start putting M9's in plastic boxes?

ugaarguy
January 29, 2013, 01:07 AM
It's a cheap cable lock that Beretta includes to comply with the federal law requiring that all hand guns be shipped with a lock. I meets the requirement of a locking device that will disable the pistol, and nothing more. It's not intended for long term storage. Spend a few dollars on a true hard side plastic case and pad lock, or a small steel pistol lock box.

tarosean
January 29, 2013, 01:12 AM
The only thing I use those locks for is flying with a gun... otherwise they make cheap gate locks for my pasture..

MrCleanOK
January 29, 2013, 01:22 AM
It's okay to store your pistol with the slide open. It's also okay to gently close the slide on the cable as long as the cable is coated.

DeadMoneyDrew
January 29, 2013, 09:03 AM
Cool, thanks. I'm thinking that a pistol case is going to be my best bet.

Pilot
January 29, 2013, 09:23 AM
Do you have children in the house? What is the purpose of locking the pistol? Do you not want to use it for home defense?

Many of us have dedicated gun safes to hold all our firearms, and those of us with children usually also have a small biometric safe next to the bed for safe keeping of a loaded handgun with the ability to get it quickly if needed.

Here are some examples.

http://www.gunvault.com/gun-safes/biometric-gun-safes.html

BSA1
January 29, 2013, 10:08 AM
A aftermarket trigger lock will allow you to store your gun with the slide closed while rendering the gun totally inoperative and is very affordable.

Ehtereon11B
January 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
Keep the original box, papers, lock and everything that came with the pistol in that case. Just in case you ever decide to sell it. Easier to sell with all the original accessories.

As stated most of us have dedicated firearm cases. Since this is your first handgun you can easily get away with a evault or similar sized gun box without buying a full sized RSC (gun safe) for $1000 or more. Try to get one of the larger evaults if money allows, that way if you decide to add to your handgun collection you can store multiple firearms there without buying a different one.

Racinfan83
January 29, 2013, 05:32 PM
I got my M9 about a year ago and it was in a plastic case. With the cable lock. Which will never see the light of day again. Why have it if you have to ask the guy who broke into your house to give you a minute so you can unlock and load your defense weapon....

Drail
January 29, 2013, 07:30 PM
I would never store a gun in a foam lined case. They are for shipping and transport purposes only. Some of them will suck moisture from the air like a sponge and hold it next to your gun. The idea that a gun will be damaged by storing it with the slide open is about the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time. If Beretta is actually telling people this I have to wonder about their products.

Owen
January 29, 2013, 08:29 PM
easing the slide down on the cable lock won't hurt anything. Neither will leaving the slide locked back.

DeadMoneyDrew
January 29, 2013, 11:10 PM
Guys thanks for the input. I appreciate it. Beretta is not telling people not to store the weapon with the slide open. I read that in a couple different places with a couple different reasons offered. It's a moot point now since I picked up a locking case today.

I'll definitely look into getting one of those biometric safes. For now I am going to keep the pistol locked up. I've only fired it a few times and need some serious practice and training before I'll feel comfortable using it outside of the firing range. Anybody standing right in front of my gun is perfectly safe right now, though anyone unfortunate enough to be crouching down and to the right of wherever I'm aiming is in big trouble :uhoh:

I'll sign up for some pistol classes, get some training, and practice. Once I'm comfortable with my control then I'll get one of those safes and keep the gun in the bedroom. Until then, my home defense will consist of good outdoor lighting, solid doors with good deadbolts, good windows, and a Mossberg 500. I'll add the pistol into all of that once I feel ready.

labhound
January 30, 2013, 12:42 AM
^ Well said!! :)

Pilot
January 30, 2013, 04:21 AM
In addition to the biometric safes, they have less expensive versions that just have a combination you tap in with your fingers. It is almost as fast, and just as secure.

Have the "D" spring installed to replace the mainspring/hammer spring in your M9. I just bought a 92FS (essentially the same gun) and ordered the D spring from Brownells. Mine is an Italian made gun so I'll have to deal with the roll pin. :rolleyes:

The D spring will lighten your trigger pull, and potentially help make it easier to shoot more accurately, but yeah training is key. Try to find someone who is well versed in the Beretta 92/M9 as the safety operates differently than most guns and training to get it safely into (and out of) action is important. I just keep mine with the safety off, and hammer down. That long DA first trigger pull is a good enough safety FOR ME, but you may be different, and I would never recommend not using a safety device to a person new to handguns.

FAS1
January 30, 2013, 09:20 AM
I'll definitely look into getting one of those biometric safes. I'll sign up for some pistol classes, get some training, and practice. Once I'm comfortable with my control then I'll get one of those safes and keep the gun in the bedroom.

Congrats on the new M9.

Be sure and look at all your options for a handgun safe as there are many to choose from. Personally, I stay away from any electronics on any of my safes, especially one that I trust my life to opening when I need it to. For proven reliability, durability, speed of access, and no finicky electronics to worry about, take a look at the mechanical push-button lock safes while you are looking at the electronic ones. There are several very good ones available depending on what features you want.

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