How long to send FFL to seller?


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gossamer
January 29, 2013, 05:06 PM
Hoping some who are FFLs might weigh in:

I purchased a gun via GunBroker. Paid, etc.. I contacted my local FFL and they said they would send the FFL to the seller. I know they're busy these days (or so I'm told :) )

I know there is something about how they have 24 hours to enter their receipt of the firearm into their log within 24 hours. But, is there anything covering how long they have to send their FFL to the seller/shipper? Or how long is a reasonable amount of time to give them to send the FFL info to the seller? Or, to put it another way, how long should I give them before I ping them again?

Thanks as always for the input.

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kimbershot
January 29, 2013, 05:08 PM
get a file ffl copy--have it signed for the particular transaction and mail it your self with the $$ to the seller's ffl holder--always worked for me.

good luck.

MtnCreek
January 29, 2013, 05:12 PM
IMHO, they should send it same day or the next, assuming you gave them everything they need.

gossamer
January 29, 2013, 05:21 PM
Well, I gave them everything they asked for (the said they would email it).

Kimbershoot: That makes sense but I'm not sure how/where to find a file copy of their particular FFL.

oneounceload
January 29, 2013, 05:24 PM
Why not fax it or email it?

CLP
January 29, 2013, 05:32 PM
Why not fax it or email it?
I second email. My FFL has emailed his license to Widener's, Brownells, and Buds. No problems with any, and it only took him a few minutes.

gossamer
January 29, 2013, 05:41 PM
My FFL said they will email it to the seller. My question is just (1) is there a mandated amount of time they have to do so? and, if not, (2) how long is reasonable/respectable for them to do it? Before I "remind" them so as to not invite negative feedback (and so I can get my new-to-me gun)?

M-Cameron
January 29, 2013, 05:44 PM
My FFL said they will email it to the seller. My question is just (1) is there a mandated amount of time they have to do so? and, if not, (2) how long is reasonable/respectable for them to do it? Before I "remind" them so as to not invite negative feedback (and so I can get my new-to-me gun)?

1) im not sure there is a legally mandated amount of time they have to send it in, they dont have to send it at all if they dont want to...

2) a 'reasonable' amount of time?....ide call back in 3-4 days if they havent sent it in that time.

medalguy
January 29, 2013, 08:25 PM
See if you can find an FFL with whom you can establish a good relationship for future orders. My FFL gave me a signed copy of his FFL that I can send to anyone, and even sent me a scanned copy to save on my computer so I can email it directly to any seller. I always tell him immediately after I buy something and advise that I'm sending the scanned copy so he knows what's happening all the time. The original signed copy is to keep in case I find something that I need to buy right now and have sent to him. :D

dogtown tom
January 29, 2013, 08:34 PM
gossamer
My question is just (1) is there a mandated amount of time they have to do so?
No.




and, if not, (2) how long is reasonable/respectable for them to do it?
If they can't do it in two days find another FFL.

ezypikns
January 29, 2013, 09:06 PM
sends a copy by FAX. Almost always the same day.

They also charge 10.00 for a transfer to ANYONE. They really support our
2nd Ammendment Rights. They are absolutely reliable.

If you're in the DFW area call Lewisville Pawn Shop. I don't think you'll be disappointed

Bubbles
January 29, 2013, 10:52 PM
Is the seller a licensee? If not, no copy of the license will go out, you get the numbers to run using ATF's FFL EzCheck.

If the seller is an FFL, does he accept an emailed copy of the license? Some want only faxes, and I've encountered two that didn't even want that, they wanted a mailed, wet-ink copy of my license.

tarosean
January 30, 2013, 01:14 AM
See if you can find an FFL with whom you can establish a good relationship for future orders. My FFL gave me a signed copy of his FFL that I can send to anyone, and even sent me a scanned copy to save on my computer so I can email it directly to any seller.


This.

I just shoot him an email of what I have incoming from whatever state and I dont have to bother him its a win win for both of us.

mgkdrgn
January 30, 2013, 07:35 AM
Well, I gave them everything they asked for (the said they would email it).

Kimbershoot: That makes sense but I'm not sure how/where to find a file copy of their particular FFL.
You don't "find" one, the FFL (if he is stupid enough) gives you one.

There is no "rule" as to how long they have ... I tend to send mine within minutes of being given the "where to" information. I'd give them a day, then bug them again. As long as it gets there before your payment does it won't slow anything down.

mgkdrgn
January 30, 2013, 07:37 AM
and I've encountered two that didn't even want that, they wanted a mailed, wet-ink copy of my license.

... ahhh yes, the Troglodyte Flat Earthers ....

Bubbles
January 30, 2013, 08:57 AM
... ahhh yes, the Troglodyte Flat Earthers ....
One was an 03 selling a modern gun. :banghead:

gossamer
January 30, 2013, 09:02 PM
Thanks everyone. I ended up finding an FFL 2 blocks from my house who send his FFL in less than 2 hours and charged me less than my (now former) FFL.

To my knowledge they never did send him the FFL info. IF this guy works out I'll be very happy as I can swing by his place on my runs and tie new purchases to my dogs back for the .5 mile trip back home.

22-rimfire
January 30, 2013, 10:18 PM
Email works. Most have a scan of their license. The seller should check to make sure the receiving FFL is on the list and probably give them a call.

tarosean
January 31, 2013, 02:38 AM
You don't "find" one, the FFL (if he is stupid enough) gives you one.

Why do you say that?

MtnCreek
January 31, 2013, 08:44 AM
Some dealers are worried that someone would take the copy and change the info on it to obtain firearms w/o an ffl.

Coyote3855
January 31, 2013, 08:54 AM
My LGS gave me a copy marked FILE COPY ONLY. They will accept firearms shipped by a non-FFL. I regularly send/fax/email a copy to sellers. My LGS does a lot of business on line and with auction sites. They complain of often receiving an FFL copy with no reference to which gun has been purchased. They have also encountered some receiving FFL dealers who will not accept email copies, only fax or hard copies. I've never dealt with anyone who demanded a "wet ink" version.

Bubbles
January 31, 2013, 08:57 AM
Some dealers are worried that someone would take the copy and change the info on it to obtain firearms w/o an ffl.
Some dealers have had to spend a lot of time dealing with the ATF and other authorities because people have done exactly that.

tarosean
January 31, 2013, 09:07 AM
Some dealers are worried that someone would take the copy and change the info on it to obtain firearms w/o an ffl.


You would have to worry about that no matter where you sent a copy though... Im assuming most dont just pass it out like a business card.

Im guessing thats one of the risks in todays modern times that the old timers never had to worry about... (internet sales, etc.)

MtnCreek
January 31, 2013, 09:14 AM
You would have to worry about that no matter where you sent a copy though... Im assuming most dont just pass it out like a business card.
If the copy is sent directly to another dealer, the assumption is it will be filed and not passed on to anyone else.

mgkdrgn
January 31, 2013, 10:26 AM
two reasons:

1) Ever hear of "Photo Shop"?

2) -I- want to send the FFL copy so -I- know what is coming in, and for whom. Even with that, I still manage to get a "blind" shipment about once a month. No idea who it is for, what it is, or where it came from (beyond the return address ... IF there is one)

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