Next on the Ban List - EBSR's


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doc540
January 29, 2013, 05:55 PM
No one really needs a rifle like this, do they? ;)

Traded and sold AR mags to get this. Arrived today.:)

Savage M12 in .223 w/Leupold 6.5-20x40

EBSR - Evil Black Sniper Rifle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Savage%20M12/M12C.jpg

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Rollis R. Karvellis
January 29, 2013, 06:03 PM
Don't worry it is on the list, and for the very reason you mentioned.

Dr. Sandman
January 29, 2013, 06:11 PM
That rifle has many legitimate uses. Does the left handed nature of the gun decrease the value?

CmdrSlander
January 29, 2013, 06:12 PM
The proposed AWB in Illinois that was defeated made no distinction between semi-automatic and manual action arms in that it also attacked pump action firearms (though bolt and lever were exempt at that time).

If the Texas Tower shooting or a similar incident happened again today you would, without a doubt hear calls to limit the magazine capacity and optical zoom factor of bolt action rifles.

After all, no one needs a 25x scope with finger turrets to kill a deer!

jmorris
January 29, 2013, 06:13 PM
I imagine the optic will be banned before the rifle.

CmdrSlander
January 29, 2013, 06:14 PM
That rifle has many legitimate uses. Does the left handed nature of the gun decrease the value?
I counsel you to remember that all rifles have many legitimate uses. "Fun" (aka "recreation") is and always has been a legitimate use under the law. That rifle is no more legitimate than an AR15 or, for that matter, a registered (or converted to semi-auto) M2HB.

CmdrSlander
January 29, 2013, 06:16 PM
I imagine the optic will be banned before the rifle.
yep. Anything bigger than 4x and certainly anything with illumination or a mil-dot reticule will be a "military sniper scope" the second somebody decides to go out by climbing a tall building with a hunting rifle and taking shots at the folks below.

littlelefty
January 29, 2013, 06:53 PM
Wow! That's a beautiful rifle!

adelbridge
January 29, 2013, 09:36 PM
I saw a 'high powered rifle" just like that on CNN

jim243
January 29, 2013, 09:45 PM
Nice rifle, really nice. But you have the bolt on the wrong side (LOLOL)

Jim

doc540
January 29, 2013, 09:48 PM
That's the Louisiana model. ;)

ExAgoradzo
January 29, 2013, 09:50 PM
OK, I'm an idiot...
What does EBSR really stand for...the net doesn't know...or I didn't look in the right place.

Thanks,
Greg

jim243
January 29, 2013, 09:53 PM
Just a wild guess, but Enhanced Bolt action Sniper Rifle.

Jim

ExAgoradzo
January 29, 2013, 09:57 PM
I think you have the E and the R right, at least that's what I guessed from EBR.
S is probably right too, I was just looking for better than a guess...
Greg

Walkalong
January 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
EBSR - Evil Black Sniper Rifle . ;)

doc540
January 30, 2013, 07:56 PM
First time to shoot it today.

20-30mph north wind gusts

sighted it in using Wammart 55gr .223

shot at 25, then 75, then 100yds

between gusts it would shoot nickle size groups at 100yds

This has the makings of another fun habit. :)

B!ngo
January 30, 2013, 09:06 PM
Left handed. My kind of peeps.
B

CLP
January 30, 2013, 09:51 PM
That rifle has many legitimate uses. Does the left handed nature of the gun decrease the value?
Not for a Southpaw like myself!

Hunter125
January 30, 2013, 10:53 PM
Didn't that already happen around DC several years ago? Some sniper wannabe was taking pot shots at cars on the highway or something like that. I guess things might be different if it happened in today's political climate.

allaroundhunter
January 30, 2013, 10:56 PM
Ha! Mine isn't black (anymore) :p

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g335/ddirks22/308/IMG_20121230_142056_zps4c6c8fb9-1_zpsb00e0e7c.jpg

earlthegoat2
January 30, 2013, 11:21 PM
Back in late 2008, I made a post similar to this and it never got past the "it's only a sniper rifle if the person shooting it is actually a sniper:neener:

Chuckleheads

klover
January 31, 2013, 02:01 AM
then rifle numbers and names, finally just names.

rodinal220
January 31, 2013, 08:54 AM
They want all the guns,including your Daisy Red Ryder.

Flatbush Harry
January 31, 2013, 09:13 AM
Let's see...IIRC, the Second Amendment reads, "A well regulated wildlife herd, being unnecessary to anyone but rednecks, the right of some people to keep and bear arms suitable for one shot efforts at killing, shall not be infringed until we, the coastal liberals led by 'Mayors Against All, er, Illegal, Firearms' infringe all the other gun rights that those foolish rednecks are too disorganized to protect. Then we'll get their churches"

Yup, I'm pretty sure that's how it reads.

FH, normally leaving all but the Second Amendment to the ACLU but rethinking that strategy

gunsandreligion
January 31, 2013, 12:01 PM
I saw a whole article about how only one shot is needed for the majority of murders. Which proof the the author used to point out we need to get rid of all guns. Not realizing he just was explaining why baseball bats are more dangerous than guns.

.455_Hunter
January 31, 2013, 12:36 PM
Be careful allaroundhunter!

Some folks might think you are trying to damage those power lines...

allaroundhunter
January 31, 2013, 12:38 PM
Be careful allaroundhunter!

Some folks might think you are trying to damage those power lines...

If you are worried about that from the picture.... You should see us dove hunting out there ;)

doc540
February 1, 2013, 09:31 PM
I should'a done this a long time ago!

Thanks for all the help here, too.

(flyer was from another string)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/c5240625-8ffa-4fd7-ab50-6951f34e1970_zps862c210c.jpg

Walkalong
February 2, 2013, 09:38 AM
Nice. :)

doc540
February 19, 2013, 05:35 PM
trying different weight bullets with different powder loads

getting it dialed in

55gr hp's w/25gr Varget are the ticket
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/6096b7d4-148a-4b21-ab10-2f80fe3a506f_zps9074e95c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/51aec8d5-14f1-49c8-9b4f-3441303bb641_zps0df383eb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/dd84e2d2-1e70-4d9c-86ac-5d8fcbe052dc_zps8429a762.jpg

USAF_Vet
February 19, 2013, 05:48 PM
Didn't that already happen around DC several years ago? Some sniper wannabe was taking pot shots at cars on the highway or something like that. I guess things might be different if it happened in today's political climate.
This very sort of thing happened in the Detroit area just a few months ago.

I don't recall if they ever mentioned the type of gun used. only one individual was injured as I recall.

I got my EBSR a couple weekends ago.

corky52
February 19, 2013, 08:13 PM
Mine is not black. So, am I safe?:evil:

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx269/tucasfacious/Savage/DSC_0579.jpg

CApighunter
February 19, 2013, 08:51 PM
Corky- is that a Savage 10 Precision Carbine? I have been looking at getting one in .308 since they first came out. How do you like yours?
CApighunter

mjw930
February 19, 2013, 09:12 PM
Doc,

I just got a Savage 12 BTCSS early January in .223 and found the same thing, bullet wise. I don't load but I have a place I buy from that will make up combos to try. They sent me some 55gr V-Max with 24.5gr of Varget to try. I have a safe full of PMC 55gr .223 that runs through my AR's like butter but the Savage absolutely hates it. 1" spacing at 50 yards and 4" high and right from POA. I was thinking I had a bad rifle until I ran 2 three round groups of the 55gr custom V-Max down range and literally made 2 ragged holes, one from each group of 3. The next time out I tried a string of 55gr Hornady Superformance and it was literally all over the target at 100 yards. Don't waste money on hot, light loads in this rifle, it hates them.

I'm new to target rifle shooting and had heard about how sensitive some rifles can be to ammo but never experienced it like I have with the Savage. Deadly accurate with one round and barely on paper with another......

corky52
February 19, 2013, 09:13 PM
Yep, Mdl 10 PC in .308. I love it. There are days that I think it should have an additional 2" on the barrel. Then I shoot a string, and ask why? It shoots better than I do. I was leary about the Accustock, but I have it dialed in now. It is pretty stable, all things considered. With the short barrel (20") it has a bit of a bounce off of the bipod. Using the sling and snapping in well seems to solve that though. Shooting offhand with the 20" barrel is a dream. It also took a while for the ACU camo to speak to me. The original black finish on the metal was a stark contrast. Painting the metal olive and the Turner sling in green took care of that.

:cool:

Charlie

doc540
February 19, 2013, 10:45 PM
"I was thinking I had a bad rifle until I ran 2 three round groups of the 55gr custom V-Max down range and literally made 2 ragged holes, one from each group of 3. The next time out I tried a string of 55gr Hornady Superformance and it was literally all over the target at 100 yards. Don't waste money on hot, light loads in this rifle, it hates them."

Duly noted!

Rollis R. Karvellis
February 21, 2013, 09:24 AM
The two muslim extremist who were shooting up DC used a Bushmaster AR.

The clown who was taking pot shot's from the over passes in Columbus Ohio, was using a Beretta 92, of some flavor. The one woman who was killed was just dumb bad luck.

The Detroit Shooting I, didn't hear about, so I, can't comment on the weapon.

The fun part about this sport is the discovery's of what work, and what dose not.

MCgunner
February 21, 2013, 10:20 AM
"Cept for the caliber, NICE rifle! My Savage is in 7mm Rem Mag. It's taken a few head of game, a mulie out at 370 yards being my longest. I don't shoot game much further and the conditions have to be right. :D Mine's a 20 year old 110 topped with a Weatherby Supreme 3x9x44 and it shoots about 1 MOA at best. It's kinda builet picky, likes 150 Game Kings and 160 Nosler Partitions and RL22 powder. I tried a LOT of combinations in the gun to find the right one. I've shot ONE store bought round through it, guy gave me a box of Federal Premium 160 Nosler partitions. It shot well with that. If I had to use factory ammo, I'd go that round, but they're expensive. I'd rather handload for it, of course.

Ain't no prairie dogs around here.

doc540
February 21, 2013, 06:21 PM
only chose that caliber for commonality of ammo with my SBR

thanks

USAF_Vet
February 21, 2013, 07:43 PM
my EBSR. Savage Axis, .30-06
http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j452/bensmith995/3006_zps9af1dba4.jpg

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j452/bensmith995/30062_zps6efaaa53.jpg

doc540
February 22, 2013, 02:58 PM
found a sweet spot today

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/fee975f7-72fb-41b9-8f12-4e869e7ae7dc_zpsc9b58af6.jpg

Sheepdog1968
February 22, 2013, 05:07 PM
Back in late 2008, I made a post similar to this and it never got past the "it's only a sniper rifle if the person shooting it is actually a sniper:neener:

Chuckleheads
My friends and I have also been talking about this for a long time. CA went after the 50 cal ones a decade or so ago.

doc540
February 25, 2013, 09:45 PM
Thanks

I concentrated on being more precise and consistent with my powder throws with this batch.

better, but a long way to go

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/f4432f33-d2ec-44e7-9b19-d1de5b8067dd_zpsec1b2cb8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/c0a7ac29-a949-4ffd-846f-fb434099d940_zps96c14471.jpg

CB900F
February 25, 2013, 09:55 PM
Allround & Corky;

Your disgusting pseudo-guns are obviously not qualified to be compared to the OP's. Gad men, can't you see! THE BOLT'S ON THE WRONG SIDE.

Flippin' right hander's.

900F

doc540
February 25, 2013, 09:59 PM
It's the Limited Edition "Cajun" model. ;)

Steel Horse Rider
February 25, 2013, 10:08 PM
Now where is that guy who was ranting a few months ago about anyone posting pictures of a target shot with a stock Savage? If I recall he was a non-believer........

doc540
February 25, 2013, 10:29 PM
Really?

Well, here's a few targets, each with a different powder load at 100yds from a stock Savage and, of course, from a rookie shooter.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Targets/d0f91aca-446d-450a-a762-124f2f67c395_zps6764b402.jpg

tech30528
February 25, 2013, 11:04 PM
Mmmmm. Got to love an EBSR. The smell of burned powder and a bit of #9, just makes you want to get comfortable and be very still for a while.

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