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ToraBoraBlues February 2, 2013, 02:44 PM I didn't see this posted anywhere. One scumbag pushing daisies, another in the hospital.
The coach was 70yrs old, and a reserve police officer.
http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/man-shot-near-martin-luther-king-jr-high-school-in-detroit
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gspn February 2, 2013, 02:56 PM I'm glad he was there to escort those young ladies to their cars. I don't like to think about what might have happened had he not been there.
MarshallDodge February 2, 2013, 03:06 PM "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun."
Wayne LaPierre, NRA Executive VP
BHP FAN February 2, 2013, 03:13 PM I LOVE a story with a happy ending!
wannabeagunsmith February 2, 2013, 04:52 PM to jail he goes, he broke the sacred gun free school zone (probably)
pa350z February 2, 2013, 04:59 PM He had a gun on school property. Ruh Rho... hoping his LEO status helps him out otherwise, he may be charged. Further... it could hurt him in the forthcoming civil suits by the deceased's family and the injured robber.
OptimusPrime February 2, 2013, 05:02 PM Bravo Coach.
2 young ladies were kept safe.
Cesiumsponge February 2, 2013, 05:08 PM If this coach was simply a law-abiding CPL holder and not a reserve officer, the outcome would be much different if he chose to follow the law. I'm assuming the media outlet would plaster "gun illegally carried by reserve officer" all over if there wasn't some sort of statute that allows a reserve officer to carry on school grounds.
Of course, most of the comments regarding this story have shifted, with most of the anti comments being "so what! You don't need an AR-15 to defend yourself! See? See?! SEE!?!"
I'm waiting for Piers "Moron" Morgan to invite him onto his farce of a show so Piers can yell over the coach and grill him about AR-15s instead of his deeds.
stonecutter2 February 2, 2013, 05:09 PM Man, I'm ecstatic to see these kinds of stories actually getting reported with more frequency - with the "debate" going on in public, the news is allowing these things to pop up more lately. It's great seeing someone protect those around them.
I hope all are well who were hassled by these thugs. Job well done, coach.
Airbrush Artist February 2, 2013, 05:39 PM We have 2 Resource Officers at The High school I drive my school bus too.Unarmed, but we have 2 city Police Officers that monitor 5,200 students a day for all the schools in My city,I'd say the coach is In a bad situation certainly acted Justifiably in the actual confrontation but ,If He was in a Gun Free school zone and it can be proven,Coutroom here we come criminal and Civil by the parents of the Deceased and wounded.I asked 3 Ohio Highway patrolmen that safety check all the buses at Our bus garage the other day if I have my firearm locked up in my vehicle in my car in the parkig lot was I violating the school Gun Free safety zone per Our school system and state law,They all said YES,but If you do it Just keep quiet...Interesting choice I can Make...
Deltaboy February 2, 2013, 07:50 PM Hope the NRA can help.him out! Way to go Coach.
BHP FAN February 2, 2013, 07:54 PM I think with the current furor over school shootings, he may just get a medal ...
tkaction February 2, 2013, 07:58 PM If he has a CCW from that state he is legal in the "Gun free school zone"
EBK February 2, 2013, 07:58 PM I'm glad he was there to escort those young ladies to their cars. I don't like to think about what might have happened had he not been there.
From the sounds of it nothing. Article I read said they were after the coaches gold necklace.
I cant shake the feeling that this guy would be up poo creek without a paddle if he wansnt a "RESERVE OFFICER"
One of us regular joes would be hung out to dry for packing on school grounds.
76shuvlinoff February 2, 2013, 08:13 PM In Michigan I believe we are allowed our concealed pistol in the school parking lots as we are dropping off and picking up children just not inside. His reserve officer status will likely protect him even further. My kid is well out of high school, I may be wrong.
Regardless, if the report holds true this is an excellent shoot. The NRA ought to be falling all over themselves to hold this gentleman up as an example if he is willing. I am not sure I would want the publicity myself. Tough call.
OptimusPrime February 3, 2013, 09:16 AM I'd like to think that if I were 70 and done a truly honorable thing like he did, I'd be comfortable with the publicity and cantankerous enough to let them use me as the test case.
To the posters who think they were just after his necklace, come on. 2 armed teenage boys in a parking lot approaching and assaulting an old guy and 2 teenage girls? You don't think they were after more than a necklace?
Regardless, intent is moot when they cross the line and take action. They WERE armed. They DID assault. This coach did a great thing and those girls are safe.
mrhill February 3, 2013, 09:22 AM I bet you won't be able to find this story on the "mainstream" news.
Double Naught Spy February 3, 2013, 10:00 AM Since when is ABC not mainstream news?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-detroit-high-school-basketball-coach-shoots-attackers/story?id=18387109
Here is FOX
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/03/detroit-high-school-coach-shoots-suspected-attackers-outside-school/
Drudge
http://www.drudge.com/news/165239/high-school-coach-shoots-attackers
Here it is showing up in Denver...
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/u-s-world/detroit-high-school-coach-shoots-2-attackers-outside-school
It was a local event covered by local news and picked up on the internet. It was distributed by ABC outside of the local area and ABC is definitely part of the mainstream media.
Russ Jackson February 3, 2013, 10:08 AM Watch the surviving creep will sue because he was shot in a gun free zone. The 70 year old hero will go to jail. Betting this story will get little press.
JRH6856 February 3, 2013, 12:21 PM Schools are not gun free zones to anyone with a CHL issued by the state.
From the article: Police sources say the coach has a Concealed Pistol License and is reportedly a reserve police officer.
Ankeny February 3, 2013, 02:18 PM The coach isn't a teacher at the school. It's not uncommon for school districts to outsource for extra-curricular activities. For all practical purposes, the attackers were shot by an off duty police officer.
Kiln February 3, 2013, 04:04 PM Reminds me of a while back when a town I grew next to had a guy beaten to death. The news showed all of the neighbors talking about what a great guy he was and how friendly he'd always been.
Then later the news stopped talking about it when they found out that the guy that was beaten to death had multiple criminal convictions for drugs and violence.
The perp is always "a nice guy who could never have done this" to their friends and neighbors.
Teachu2 February 4, 2013, 01:55 PM http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2013/02/04/news/cops_and_courts/doc510fb0146aaaf631857545.txt
Double Naught Spy February 4, 2013, 02:26 PM I guess that would fall under the category of it being better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
TarDevil February 4, 2013, 02:45 PM If he has a CCW from that state he is legal in the "Gun free school zone"
Not in my state... and it was my understanding not in Michigan either.
mac66 February 4, 2013, 02:48 PM Just some additional information about CPLs in Michigan and Detroit.
While the law allows reserve police officers to carry in gun free zones the intent was to allow them to work sporting and other events which is common in Detroit. However the law does not stipulate that the reserve officer has to be working so he was probably legal.
School employees in Detroit are not allowed to carry on school grounds so if he was an employee he probably is in trouble. If he was a volunteer, and judging by his age he may very well be he is probably has nothing to lose from being fired as a coach.
Understand that there are two distinct Detroits. The Detroit Metro area is the tri county area of surrounding suburbs. It is much like any other metropolitan area with a population of 5 million or so.
The City of Detroit is the area within the city boundaries. The difference between the city and metro area is like night and day. Population about 600,000. It is fundamentally a dysfunctional, broke, poverty stricken, drug infested, third world cesspool. Unlike some big cities, guns are not banned and just about everybody is armed either legally or illegally. Crime is rampant. Police are corrupt and slow to respond. Armed citizens are the only ones keeping a lid on things. You are pretty much on your own if you live there and only the people who can't afford to move or are too stupid to leave still live there.
Russ Jackson February 4, 2013, 03:15 PM Just some additional information about CPLs in Michigan and Detroit.
While the law allows reserve police officers to carry in gun free zones the intent was to allow them to work sporting and other events which is common in Detroit. However the law does not stipulate that the reserve officer has to be working so he was probably legal.
School employees in Detroit are not allowed to carry on school grounds so if he was an employee he probably is in trouble. If he was a volunteer, and judging by his age he may very well be he is probably has nothing to lose from being fired as a coach.
Understand that there are two distinct Detroits. The Detroit Metro area is the tri county area of surrounding suburbs. It is much like any other metropolitan area with a population of 5 million or so.
The City of Detroit is the area within the city boundaries. The difference between the city and metro area is like night and day. Population about 600,000. It is fundamentally a dysfunctional, broke, poverty stricken, drug infested, third world cesspool. Unlike some big cities, guns are not banned and just about everybody is armed either legally or illegally. Crime is rampant. Police are corrupt and slow to respond. Armed citizens are the only ones keeping a lid on things. You are pretty much on your own if you live there and only the people who can't afford to move or are too stupid to leave still live there.
You are correct. People from other states and areas have no idea what Detroit is really like. Detroit is a horrible unsafe place. Worse than anywhere in this country. I knew the 70 year old man would be arrested. It's most likely safer for him is he is off the streets. Where have all the Fathers gone?
GOLDN February 4, 2013, 05:25 PM They are all "nice guys" ...getting their life together....until you dig a little deeper and find out differently. It's sad
Unistat February 4, 2013, 06:09 PM Just some additional information about CPLs in Michigan and Detroit.
While the law allows reserve police officers to carry in gun free zones the intent was to allow them to work sporting and other events which is common in Detroit. However the law does not stipulate that the reserve officer has to be working so he was probably legal.
School employees in Detroit are not allowed to carry on school grounds so if he was an employee he probably is in trouble. If he was a volunteer, and judging by his age he may very well be he is probably has nothing to lose from being fired as a coach.
Understand that there are two distinct Detroits. The Detroit Metro area is the tri county area of surrounding suburbs. It is much like any other metropolitan area with a population of 5 million or so.
The City of Detroit is the area within the city boundaries. The difference between the city and metro area is like night and day. Population about 600,000. It is fundamentally a dysfunctional, broke, poverty stricken, drug infested, third world cesspool. Unlike some big cities, guns are not banned and just about everybody is armed either legally or illegally. Crime is rampant. Police are corrupt and slow to respond. Armed citizens are the only ones keeping a lid on things. You are pretty much on your own if you live there and only the people who can't afford to move or are too stupid to leave still live there.
I'll also agree with this statement and I will add that there is a further distinction between Wayne Co. (where Detroit is located) and the rest of Michigan. At work we have a saying, "There's State of Michigan law, and then there's Wayne County law."
fanchisimo February 4, 2013, 06:14 PM Sounds kind of like there's Illinois law, and there's Cook county law.
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Kiln February 5, 2013, 02:09 PM You are correct. People from other states and areas have no idea what Detroit is really like. Detroit is a horrible unsafe place. Worse than anywhere in this country. I knew the 70 year old man would be arrested. It's most likely safer for him is he is off the streets. Where have all the Fathers gone?
Reminds me of the mom in Chicago who lost four kids to gun violence. Come to find out that at least one of them was previously in a gang but was "getting his life together" as she put it.
I'm sorry but isn't getting shot kind of like an occupational hazard of being a current/former gang member?
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