.40 Cal Comparison


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miamivicedade
February 2, 2013, 07:03 PM
All -

I will be getting a new .40 caliber tomorrow and have narrowed my search to three guns. I am looking at either the Glock 23, the FNX40 or the FNS40. Any experience or suggestions about these, and which one is best. It could potentially be a carry gun.

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meanmrmustard
February 2, 2013, 07:08 PM
I've only experience with the G23.

They're great, and I go so far as to say the finest .40 I've fired and owned. Plus, feeling froggy?

Get a G32 barrel, instant Glock in .357 Sig if you so choose.:)

MaterDei
February 2, 2013, 07:14 PM
I understand that BATFE agents are fond of the Glock foty.

miamivicedade
February 2, 2013, 07:27 PM
Thanks, guys. I think I will get one of those.

meanmrmustard
February 2, 2013, 07:29 PM
Thanks, guys. I think I will get one of those.
You can't go wrong with FN.

You'll be hard pressed to do better than a G23. You've picked a reputable manufacturer, and my personal favorite in that chambering.

May I ask: what gen are you getting?

miamivicedade
February 2, 2013, 07:41 PM
3rd Gen is my preference. My local shop does have a 3rd Gen. I currently have a 19 3rd Gen, and holster for it. The 23 would be fit the same. I have always wanted a good .40 caliber gun. I like that caliber the best. I am kinda becoming an FN fan, and really like the FNX, but I think striker fire would be optimal for ccw, but I don't know for sure.

My 19 has been great. I do love glocks, but those FNs are so pretty, and I believe they have 3 mags, at 14 rounds per. Highly respectable (as far as I know) for .40 caliber.

JO JO
February 2, 2013, 07:45 PM
I have an fns 40, it has become my favorite by far, always goes bang,
hits right on the mark, super easy disassembly comes with 3 mags, even
being a 40 recoil is soft has a low bore axis I really feel there top notch
I have shot and owned many brands to me fns really does well,

bds
February 2, 2013, 07:49 PM
I have G22/G23/G27. The Gen3 G23 I bought last year is actually outshooting the G22 bought two years ago.

Nice thing about G23 is that with the 40-9 conversion barrel, it will allow you to shoot cheaper 9mm rounds for practice and carry the 40S&W for SD/HD (It's like having two guns for the price of a barrel of $100-$150).

With the price of ammunition right now (if you can find any), you could pay for a reloading setup before too long. With lead bullets, I can reload 50 9mm rounds for around $5 that are more accurate than factory target loads.

If you end up getting the G27, the G23 conversion barrel will also work in the G27.

miamivicedade
February 2, 2013, 08:23 PM
Great advice. Thanks. I am looking forward to getting it.

JDGray
February 2, 2013, 08:28 PM
Had a 23, have a 35, great shooting guns! My CZ40B will out shoot them, but not by much.:D

dirtengineer
February 2, 2013, 08:52 PM
My wife has a Gen 3 G23. Nice gun.

meanmrmustard
February 2, 2013, 08:52 PM
3rd Gen is my preference. My local shop does have a 3rd Gen. I currently have a 19 3rd Gen, and holster for it. The 23 would be fit the same. I have always wanted a good .40 caliber gun. I like that caliber the best. I am kinda becoming an FN fan, and really like the FNX, but I think striker fire would be optimal for ccw, but I don't know for sure.

My 19 has been great. I do love glocks, but those FNs are so pretty, and I believe they have 3 mags, at 14 rounds per. Highly respectable (as far as I know) for .40 caliber.
3rd is my fave. Cool.

hardluk1
February 3, 2013, 12:38 PM
And with the glock you do have the option of a 357sig barrel or a 9mm conversion barrel for practice/fun shoots.

Frizzman
February 3, 2013, 09:16 PM
The G23 is my favorite Glock. I bought my first Glock in 1990. It was a 23. Since then, I have had just about every model and I have come back to the G23. Its a good balance of power, capacity, shootability, durability, simplicity. It is a proven design and the choice of the FBI, with the G22 also, and many other LE agencies. There are lots of parts and accessories widely, at least there were before the recent insanity. I have a Gen 4 and I think it is an improvement over previous generations. I have a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel and will be getting a .357 Sig barrel too...So, have a G18, 23 and a G32...The other pistols you mentioned may be good too. I have never had one of those.

Trad Archer
February 3, 2013, 10:48 PM
Good luck with your choice. I hope it will be what you want.

Armedleprechaun
February 4, 2013, 03:05 AM
I love my Glock 23 Gen4.

ku4hx
February 4, 2013, 05:30 AM
I own guns of various make, model and caliber. In many cases, multiplies of each with respect to both model and caliber.

I bought my Glock 23 in 1993 and at first it was a bit problematic to say the least. But, Glock fixed that and it's been my constant companion for several years: daytime carry, bedside table, house carry and etc. It has proven to be reliable, accurate and a joy to shoot.

Of the guns we own, it's the one we've both had occasions to use in a defensive situation. I like the gun and I highly recommend it. Of course, others have other stories and opinions and their recommendations should be noted.

Skribs
February 4, 2013, 11:51 AM
I don't like FN. They seem to think they know better than their civilian customers. Their non-manual-safety model FNS pistols are only available to LEO/military (or if you can find one used), and if a civilian sends in a letter requesting they open it up to the public they receive a very snarky response about how the safety is just low profile. It would be one thing if they didn't make such a model...

I would recommend the Glock.

skeezer1
February 4, 2013, 12:20 PM
P 16 40 para. All metal

shepsan
February 4, 2013, 07:36 PM
miamivicedade, at present I own a FNS-40, FNX-40 and Glock 27. All are .40 S&W semi-automatic pistols.

I carry the FNS concealed under a jacket in winter, the Glock 27 is my concealed pocket carry gun in summer and the FNX-40 is my bedside gun year round.

The FNS-40 is an excellent striker-fire pistol. The FNX-40 is an excellent hammer action pistol. Both have a multitude of features that incorporate some of the best ones found in Glock striker-fire pistols and in 1911 hammer action pistols.

am impressed with the FNH models because of their designs and craftsmanship. Both fit well in my hands, have good balance, buffered recoil, are accurate, easy to disassemble and clean, and neither has failed to properly load fire or eject the various brands, weights, and types of ammunition I have used.

Their 3-dot sights are very good. During daylight or with a flash light attached at night, the front sight rivets my eyes to whatever point I wish to aim.

The lighter weight of these two models compared to my all-steel 1911ís is less tiring to carry or to hold for extensive training shooting periods.

The ambidextrous safeties are easily manageable. And, once I worked the take-down levers a number of times, disassembly became quite simple to do. Cleaning and lubing is an easy task with the FN line of pistols.

I am highly accurate up to 15 yards with both pistols. Thus, for short defensive distances, these are effective weapons when loaded with powerful .40 S&W ammunition.

It is my personal opinion that either FNH model is superior to any of the Glock .40models. To carry it a further step, I think these two pistols are superior to ANY .40 S&W pistols whether they be made of polymer or steel.

miamivicedade
February 4, 2013, 09:31 PM
All - I went with the one I really really wanted, for a long time. The FNX-40. I currently have a Glock 19, and I love that gun. It's been flawless for 6-7 years. I wanted to try something new, and have heard great things about the FNX.

When I went to the gun shop - I picked it up, and it felt great. I knew that would be the gun.

My only concern is that I got the last one they had, and it was in the display case. I did see a little barrel wear, but it was listed as new, with a full FNH warranty. Am I screwed? :what:

meanmrmustard
February 4, 2013, 09:48 PM
All - I went with the one I really really wanted, for a long time. The FNX-40. I currently have a Glock 19, and I love that gun. It's been flawless for 6-7 years. I wanted to try something new, and have heard great things about the FNX.

When I went to the gun shop - I picked it up, and it felt great. I knew that would be the gun.

My only concern is that I got the last one they had, and it was in the display case. I did see a little barrel wear, but it was listed as new, with a full FNH warranty. Am I screwed? :what:
No, you are not screwed. Barrel wear will be noticeable early. Are FNXs tilt barrel?

miamivicedade
February 4, 2013, 10:10 PM
Do you mean when the slide is pulled back? If so, yes.

Bovice
February 4, 2013, 10:37 PM
Most, if not all guns are test fired at the factory. Seeing a little wear on the barrel surface is to be expected.

shepsan
February 5, 2013, 05:19 AM
Often someone posts concern about a visual sign of a rub or wear on a new gun such as that previously posted. It is not my intention to criticize the poster's concern or to demean him in any way. However, I consider a gun as a tool that can do a job and not an object of financial investment.

I do not buy a gun so that a future time I might make a profit of it. I buy it because I think it is the best tool I can afford at that time to meet my specific firearm need. Thus, unless it displays a downright ugly scratch or worse that significantly detracts, as long as that marring does not impair the operation of the gun, I do not disqualify it from my ownership of it.

With regard to a warranty, if a gun is warranted, that becomes my insurance the gun will perform as designed.

However, if one collects guns for the purpose of subsequent sale for profit at a later time, then any visual imperfection seen on the gun will detract from its value. In this instance, the gun is not purchased as a tool but as an object to hold until it becomes of greater monetary value and subsequent sale.

meanmrmustard
February 5, 2013, 06:08 AM
Do you mean when the slide is pulled back? If so, yes.
There ya go.

For one, they proof at the factory.

Secondly, I've noticed more wear at the end of barrels, especially those with a flared muzzle, out of battery with the tilting design.

Even so, doesn't hurt a thing. You can't see it when you're shooting, and you most likely put a lil oil on the barrel anyway, so you're fine!

miamivicedade
February 6, 2013, 09:49 AM
Thanks Mustard. Appreciate it.

ku4hx
February 6, 2013, 10:38 AM
Often someone posts concern about a visual sign of a rub or wear on a new gun such as that previously posted. It is not my intention to criticize the poster's concern or to demean him in any way. However, I consider a gun as a tool that can do a job and not an object of financial investment.

I do not buy a gun so that a future time I might make a profit of it. I buy it because I think it is the best tool I can afford at that time to meet my specific firearm need. Thus, unless it displays a downright ugly scratch or worse that significantly detracts, as long as that marring does not impair the operation of the gun, I do not disqualify it from my ownership of it.

With regard to a warranty, if a gun is warranted, that becomes my insurance the gun will perform as designed.

However, if one collects guns for the purpose of subsequent sale for profit at a later time, then any visual imperfection seen on the gun will detract from its value. In this instance, the gun is not purchased as a tool but as an object to hold until it becomes of greater monetary value and subsequent sale.
This is not mine and if I had recorded the source I'd cite it here. I found this on a now forgotten forum (a Glock forum obviously); maybe some of you know of it. Whether or not you believe all of it or none of it, I think the author made a number of valid points even if your gun of choice is not a Glock.
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*Stop obsessing over every little scratch, mark, and imagined flaw.
*Yes, the last few rounds are difficult to load, and can make it difficult to chamber the first round. You should have muscles, use them.
*Yes, many GLOCK pistols will scratch/dent the spent cases, it's normal. Stop freaking out.
*Dry firing your GLOCK is absolutely fine, unless you hit the 8,000,000 mark, you're not going to damage your pistol. And you might actually learn a thing or two about trigger control.
*Pig-nose is perfectly normal, forget about it, stop obsessing.
*You're gonna shoot low and left, learn trigger control, and try a slimmer pistol/grip if you need to. It will take time, stop obsessing.
*Magazines bulge when fully loaded, stop freaking out about it.
*Unless the pistol is actually malfunctioning, the only problems are in your head.
*Whatever quality JHP you can find is fine. There is no uber psycho-shock ammo that will turn your GLOCK into a single shot man-vaporizor. All service caliber pistols are terrible at stopping threats. Stop obsessing over ammo selection and learn to shoot, then buy a rifle or shotgun.
*+P, ++P+, -P+Q=R ammo is fine. Whatever you can find should work.
*Yes, the ejector on 9MM GLOCKs are supposed to be bent that way, don't be a dumbass and try and bend it straight.
*Tennifer IS NOT the black/grey finish you see, it's impregnated into the metal underneath. Stop freaking out over finish wear, it happens.
*DO NOT RECHAMBER ROUNDS REPEATEDLY. This will cause set backs.
*Just because you can't stop yourself from rechambering the same round repeatedly, and the bullet sets-back until it is almost not visible, and then that round starts failing to feed/cycle, DOES NOT MEAN your GLOCK pistol is defective.
*There is absolutely NOTHING you can start a thread over, that hasn't already been done a bazillion times. Use the search function.
*There is no need to replace your pistols barrel/springs/mags/etc. until they fail. And if you just leave your pistol alone and just shoot it, I can almost gaurantee you that nothing will ever break. Most problems with GLOCK pistols are created by owners that can't just leave them stock.
*Leaving your magazines loaded WILL NOT CAUSE DAMAGE to the springs. Load them and leave them the hell alone. And if you carry your pistol, load it and leave it alone. Don't un-chamber/re-chamber the same round 15 times a day as you come and go from home. You should know why by now.
*Yes, there is supposed to be a metallic noise when you shake your GLOCK, it's the firing pin. Nothing's broken, quit freaking out.
*READ THE MANUAL!!!
*Whatever lube you can find will be great. Engine oil, crisco, WD40, butt sweat, it doesn't matter.

Look noobs, we were all new shooters at one time. We understand the excitement and joy, and remember when we too would take out our newly purchased first GLOCK pistols and obsess and play with them like we were kids on Christmas. Relax. Calm down. The more you muck around with them, knowing absolutely nothing about what you're doing, the better the chances are you're going to have problems.

REPOMAN
February 6, 2013, 10:48 AM
I like the Glock..... Here have some Kool-Aid while you're thinking it over.... LOL....:D

P-Dog
February 6, 2013, 07:24 PM
My 2 cents ... I shoot an XD and love it. I was just talking to a Local Gun shop yesterday and he was showing me the FN your deciding on. He has one ... loves it. Said the same thing as one of the replies above, low bore axis, reduced felt recoil, sight on target is easier to maintain. I personally don't have a glock simply because it doesn't fit my hand well. But I know lots who do and they are lifers on Glock ... kind of a Chevy vs. Ford thing. But I may pick up an FN ... felt really good in hand, dig the 3 mags.

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