Al Gore on Gun Safety


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Airbrush Artist
February 2, 2013, 07:52 PM
http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/gore_gun.jpg

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BHP FAN
February 2, 2013, 07:56 PM
well, at least the magazine's not in it...

bobmcd
February 2, 2013, 07:58 PM
Also, a two-dimensional photo does not show that the barrel may well be pointed well to one side or the other.

tekarra
February 2, 2013, 07:59 PM
Very well kitted out, but how far is the motor home?

OptimusPrime
February 2, 2013, 07:59 PM
Man, remember how much grit and grime those triangular fore grips would collect?

Jenrick
February 2, 2013, 08:00 PM
You can't tell if the rifle's well off line of his face or not due to the angle of the photo. Also I'll the man credit he at least wore the uniform and went to Vietnam when a hell of a lot of his Harvard classmates did everything in their power to avoid going.

-Jenrick

Jenrick
February 2, 2013, 08:01 PM
OptimusPrime: I came in well after the A2 was standard, so the need to remove the handguards to clean under them always mystified me. Until the day I got handed an A1 as OPFOR in a squad lane, and learned just exactly how much junk can get in those dang things.

-Jenrick

mljdeckard
February 2, 2013, 08:03 PM
That is one thing I will give Algore. He did actually go and do honorably, and didn't pretend to throw his medals down on the steps of the capitol when he was home.

Airbrush Artist
February 2, 2013, 08:14 PM
At No Time will I ever defend this...well I will let it go...

matrem
February 2, 2013, 08:47 PM
If that bolt is back? ( and i can't tell if it is ) I'm sure I could've been photo captured looking pretty unsafe to somebody not knowing the details.
Man.. I hate even thinking about just defending algore... but have to call it as i see it.

Coop45
February 2, 2013, 09:06 PM
He didn't hide in the Texas Air National Guard either.

Tinpig
February 2, 2013, 09:22 PM
From talking to my son who was in Iraq, I think muzzle and trigger discipline is much better in today's Army than what I experienced in Vietnam, or from what my Dad told me about WWII.

And as others have said, at least Gore was there...why not find a draft-dodger to criticize.

Tinpig

meanmrmustard
February 2, 2013, 09:25 PM
He's pointing the weapon at ManBearPig...I'm super cereal!!!

meanmrmustard
February 2, 2013, 09:27 PM
He didn't hide in the Texas Air National Guard either.
Seriously? The dude could still fly! Can you?

And he's near mentally gifted!

22-rimfire
February 3, 2013, 09:46 AM
Gore went, but he was one of the special group with famous Daddy's.

Steel Horse Rider
February 3, 2013, 09:50 AM
Flying a Thud was probably exposed a man to more danger than being in a protected environment.

ID-shooting
February 3, 2013, 10:06 AM
Interesting picture, brings back some memories. Some things to note, his ruck is fairly full, probably heavy. He seems to be in MOPP gear as well. No magazine, and notice there are no slots visible on the flash supressor? Perhaps he has a cover installed. I would venture to say this was taken on an FTX. He needed to adjust the sling. If he sat down to do it, it would be very akward to get back up, been there, done that. Think of a turtle on its back, LOL. I see nothing to criticize him about in this particular photo.

Russ Jackson
February 3, 2013, 10:11 AM
http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/gore_gun.jpg

Like Barney Fife he was not trusted with a magazine or ammo.

glennv
February 3, 2013, 10:17 AM
I wonder if this picture was taken before or after he invented the Internet.

tpelle
February 3, 2013, 10:38 AM
GWB didn't fly a Thud, he flew Convairs - the Delta Dart or Delta Dagger, I can't remember which.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-106_Delta_Dart

To his credit, those weren't the easiest airplanes to fly, and their mission, should the US be attacked, was to intercept the Soviet Bison and Bear Bombers as far off the coast as possible, at the limit of the interceptor's range. It was pretty much a suicide mission, as, if the bombers' defensive armament or their escorts didn't shoot you down, you wouldn't have enough fuel to get back to dry land.

Back in those cold war days there were LOTS of aviation jobs that were, in time of war, pretty much guaranteed to be suicide missions. I recall the Douglas Skyraider, which was a big single-engine propeller plane, and for a while was the Navy's only nuclear-capable bomber. The profile for those missions was to infiltrate Russian airspace at low altitude as fast as the plane would go (not very), then pull up into a big climbing loop. At the top of the loop you would release the nuke, then pull the airplane over into a split-S, dive to build up speed, and hope to outrun the shock wave of your bomb (not likely).

http://www.warbirdforum.com/toss.htm

JRH6856
February 3, 2013, 11:45 AM
“Of his time in the Army, Gore later stated, ‘I didn't do the most, or run the gravest danger. But I was proud to wear my country's uniform.’ He also later stated that his experience in Vietnam ‘didn't change my conclusions about the war being a terrible mistake, but it struck me that opponents to the war, including myself, really did not take into account the fact that there were an awful lot of South Vietnamese who desperately wanted to hang on to what they called freedom. Coming face to face with those sentiments expressed by people who did the laundry and ran the restaurants and worked in the fields was something I was naively unprepared for.’ ”

Johannes_Paulsen
February 3, 2013, 11:54 AM
Also worth noting (from Wikipedia):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore#Military_service

After enlisting in August 1969, Gore returned to the anti-war Harvard campus in his military uniform to say goodbye to his adviser and was "jeered" at by students.[17][23] He later said he was astonished by the "emotional field of negativity and disapproval and piercing glances that ... certainly felt like real hatred".[23]

Trash Gore's politics all you want. I certainly don't agree with a lot of the policies he's advocated. But he took up arms and served honorably when his country was at war, despite his disagreements with Johnson's and Nixon's policies.

Mocking his service with a photo apparently taken while he was in the field is not the high road.

nathan
February 3, 2013, 11:56 AM
Al Gore is good to go. He was there as a fellow soldier. NO more and no less.

Coop45
February 3, 2013, 12:18 PM
A salute for the 58,220 that gave all!

gym
February 3, 2013, 12:26 PM
And don't forget he invented the interweb, without, without which we could not have these discussions.

texasgun
February 3, 2013, 01:40 PM
he served in Vietnam (like Kerry) when many others avoided the draft (Clinton, Gingrich) or did something less dangerous (G.W.Bush).

to pull out a decade old pictures from a questionable angle is pretty low :banghead:

I do not care for his politics or what he did after the war... but at least he served.

Dr.Rob
February 3, 2013, 01:42 PM
Seriously, this is off color off topic and rather debunked.

This horse is dead people, stop beating it.

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