Ruger SP101 in .38 Spl


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Deaf Smith
February 3, 2013, 12:09 AM
Found one for sale for $300.

It's an older one, short cylinder, in .38 Spl. and not .357.

2 1/4 inch barrel and stainless with original grips.

Sound like a keeper?

Thanks,

Deaf

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colorado_handgunner
February 3, 2013, 12:09 AM
At $300 I would jump on that in a heartbeat.

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CTGunner
February 3, 2013, 12:18 AM
I saw a new one today for $500, .38special only, and I thought that was a good price. I think 300 dollars for any quality revolver is a GREAT deal.

sidheshooter
February 3, 2013, 08:25 PM
I have the same thing in SPNY guise. The short answer is "hell yes".

The longer answer is that the shorter frame is just slightly more svelte; it just seems to feel better and look more proportioned. As well, mine shoots to POA with 158s in either standard or +P loadings. It's probably my favorite revolver to shoot these days.

So far as $300, did you see my short answer, above?

Remllez
February 3, 2013, 10:51 PM
Deaf,

If everything checks out I would buy that one and smile all the way home!! You could turn it
Pretty quick in today's market or keep it and shoot the bejeebers out of it. They are nice well made guns that stand up to hard shooting and ask for more.

It's your dough!!!.......:)

Trad Archer
February 3, 2013, 11:18 PM
A LGS about 2 months ago had one for $350. I've been :banghead::banghead::banghead: for not buying it.

Deaf Smith
February 3, 2013, 11:23 PM
I did a.... lay-away.

Yes I'll have it in a week but that was just to tempting to pass up so I just had them sit on it for me.

I used to have one many years ago but a ex-girlfiend wanted a good compact gun. Mine I had the hammer bobbed and a good set of Houge combat grips,

Yes I'm married but this was before I met my wife! It was a mighty good .38 and I'm real happy to find another. I do have the SP101 .357 but these .38s are a bit shorter and lighter.

Kind of like my first CCW guns. A S&W 640 in .38 and 2 inch 64, also in .38. I still have them to.

Deaf

Mosbyranger
February 4, 2013, 12:57 AM
A year ago today my Dad passed. I inherited his SP 101 in .38. It's built strong and shoots well. It now lives in the nightstand. If you find that you do not like yours, please PM me immediately and I'll arrange to take it off your hands at a profit for you.
MR

Arkansas Paul
February 4, 2013, 12:58 AM
Don't blame you. I would have jumped all over that if I could spare the change.

ColtPythonElite
February 4, 2013, 01:03 AM
I will be the odd man and say I wouldn't want one....I don't want a .357 strong gun only chambered for .38....However, I wouldn't pass up one for 300 bucks.

Orion8472
February 4, 2013, 12:23 PM
Pics when you get it, . . . or it didn't happen.

PabloJ
February 4, 2013, 01:47 PM
A LGS about 2 months ago had one for $350. I've been :banghead::banghead::banghead: for not buying it.
No need to :banghead: the original stainless revolver known as S&W Model 60 is not all that difficult to find.

rhinoh
February 4, 2013, 07:57 PM
I will be the odd man and say I wouldn't want one....I don't want a .357 strong gun only chambered for .38....However, I wouldn't pass up one for 300 bucks.

Same here, and I don't quite get why Ruger makes both.
Why would someone buy the .38 over the .357 for the same price, weight, size etc..I must be missing something:confused:

Deaf Smith
February 4, 2013, 08:19 PM
rhinoh,

I use hot .38s in my .357 SP101. Magnums are a handful. Most people shoot .38s out of their small .357s due to the blast and recoil. But the .357 version gives you options the .38s don't.

And yes gang, I'll post a side-by-side of the .357 and .38 versions (I get it Friday, yes this Friday.)

Deaf

skidder
February 4, 2013, 11:38 PM
Congrats Deaf. Not a bad deal at all.
I shoot mostly 38s in my SP 357. I used to buy 38 reloads from the highway patrol in Spokane through a guy I worked with. $4 for 50 back in the early 90s. The reason most of my reloads are 38 today.

The shorter cylinder should take a little weight off the gun, more appreciated after a long day of packing.

foghornl
February 5, 2013, 09:21 AM
Whaddya mean "it isn't ALREADY in Deaf's Artillery Locker" ? ? ?

$300 for that isn't just a steal, it is more like robbing Fort Knox.. {GRIN!}

Ruger (I think) might have made both a .38 & .357 model to satisfy requirements of security, armored car guys, etc that could only have .38's

ColtPythonElite
February 5, 2013, 11:32 AM
I doubt many uniformed guards carry 5 shot snubs.

Deaf Smith
February 5, 2013, 08:11 PM
foghorn,

When the SP-101 first came out it was in .38 only. Cylinder length just right for .38s, as was the frame.

But the cry came from gun writers that it should take .357s, just as the S&W 640 .38 was found strong enough to take .357s and S&W just lengthen the frame and cylinder to make the 640-1 (and yep I have both versions.)

Well at first Ruger just chambered some strait to .357 but the cylinder was to short (and hence the '125gr only' stamped on the gun.

So then Ruger re-designed and made the frame and cylinder a bit longer and vola, the .357 SP-101 was born.

Yes it's a bit shorter and lighter than the .357 full framed SP-101.

I nab it Friday and I'll add it to the stable.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=179089&d=1359948436

Deaf

Trent
February 5, 2013, 09:53 PM
Holy crap Deaf.

That's a whole lot of wheel gun goodness there.

fxstchewy
February 5, 2013, 10:16 PM
I would buy it and load it with Buffalo Bore 158+P's.........

sgt127
February 6, 2013, 01:31 AM
Heres an SPNY to keep you ammused until yours shows up.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j277/sgt127/SPNY.jpg

foghornl
February 6, 2013, 09:00 AM
Deaf:

I didn't remember that Ruger just made the .38 version at first; I was more of a single-action revolver kind of guy then.

If it is rated for the "+P" ammo, it should still be decently comfortable with those loads....not like those "Ultra-Light-Tanium" revolvers. Shooting Budd has one of those 'less than 16 Oz' guns in .357. Shot it with a full-house 158-Gr .357 load....ONCE.

Show us some pics when you get that Ruger in your hands.

Trent
February 6, 2013, 09:49 AM
Are the Ruger SP101's pretty sturdy, as far as reloading goes?

Just got dies ordered for 357, and bought a couple of boxes of bullets when I was out yesterday. :)

Hondo 60
February 6, 2013, 12:11 PM
$300??? :eek:

GRAB IT!

I just spent $550 on a new 357

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=701573

Deaf Smith
February 6, 2013, 08:39 PM
That looks real good Sgt.

I wish Eagle would make their Secret Service Stocks for the SP-101 thinner and a bit smaller. I have a pair on my DAO SP-101 but it's a bit thick. Not real thick but my Ruger Speed Six SS stocks are thin and slim! And after all, these are concealment guns, right?

Two days to go!

Deaf

Delawarean
February 6, 2013, 09:07 PM
I use hot .38s in my .357 SP101. Magnums are a handful. Most people shoot .38s out of their small .357s due to the blast and recoil. But the .357 version gives you options the .38s don't.


Any reason why you couldn't use hot .38s in a .38 SP101?

Deaf Smith
February 6, 2013, 11:13 PM
I use hot .38s in my SP-101 .357 all the time.

The Ruger folks found out early that the .38 SP-101 was so strong it could take magnums. In fact the first .357 SP-101s were on the .38 frame and stamped "125 Gr. Bullet" on the side cause 158gr slugs were to long.

So you see, those .38 SP-101s are plenty strong for any .38 load you could dream up!

Deaf

sidheshooter
February 7, 2013, 01:02 AM
Well now, if people are going to start posting pics of their short frame SPs/SPNYs...

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=176671&stc=1&d=1356556302

Deaf Smith
February 8, 2013, 07:40 PM
Got it!

It's a 570-xxxxx. Total cost of $319.

I also got the Browning High Power at another shop for $645 (tax inc.), including the origination box, papers, 2 'Bill Clinton' 10 shot mags, 1 Browning 13 shot mag, and two South Aferican military 15 shot mags,. The P-35 was almost mint cond.

Yes it was an expensive day!

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=179365&d=1360366831

The P-35, bring so dark colored, if I used flash the SP-101 would have been blinding white!

Deaf

sidheshooter
February 8, 2013, 10:25 PM
You could make a damn good argument for that pair being all you *really* need with regard to carry pieces. Congrats on the catches!

Lucky Derby
February 9, 2013, 06:45 AM
You could make a damn good argument for that pair being all you *really* need with regard to carry pieces. Congrats on the catches!
That's the truth. 99% of the time I have either my 3" SP101 or one of my HPs on me.
DeafSmith-Nice pair of sidearms you got there.

Orion8472
February 9, 2013, 11:57 AM
Thanks for posting the pic.

Like

PabloJ
February 9, 2013, 12:27 PM
Looked over SP101 six-shot 3" 32H&R magnum. Nice revolver in caliber I have never heard of. I recon it would make very nice woman revolver.

Deaf Smith
February 9, 2013, 06:31 PM
You could make a damn good argument for that pair being all you *really* need with regard to carry pieces. Congrats on the catches!
Sid, Lucky,

Actually you are quite right.

My normal carry is a Glock 26 and S&W 642.

The big gun is the winder gun, main gun, house gun, etc..
And the small gun ones summer gun, backup gun, spare gun for wife.

But dang it... they don't make'em anymore! That SP-101 570- number also has a zero after the dash. First year production and a low one at that. And the P-35? I see them on Guns America for $899. Even Britain has now gone to the Glock to replace the P-35.

Anyway I shot them today. 10 yards 3 inch black bullseye. All shots from BOTH guns dead in. The SP-101, with Winchester 130 gr FMU actually put three of the five in the red dot (1/2 inch size.) The P-35 used 115 gr reloads and while not quite as accurate as the SP-101 I bet I just need to get used to it.

Soon I'll go and clean them up and put them to bed in the safe.

Deaf

Trent
February 11, 2013, 09:36 PM
Deaf, since you seem to have every Ruger ever made....

The grips on my SP-101 tear the HELL out of my thumb knuckle when I shoot 158gr loads. (Still bruised and sore after 3 days, and I only shot 10 rounds).

I've got big hands so my thumb comes down at an angle, and the little "knob" pointy part on the top of the thumb recess rides the inside of my thumb knuckle under recoil. With 125's it's not a big deal until I've shot about 50 rounds, but with 158's it is IMMEDIATE and PAINFUL to shoot.

Any aftermarket grips you (or any others) would recommend for bigger handed fellows? Something SMOOTH that didn't have a point like the stock ones would be great.

Deaf Smith
February 11, 2013, 10:55 PM
Trent,

Houge Monogrip.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1151344380/hogue-monogrip-grips-ruger-sp101-rubber

For me the Momogrips are kind of long .vis. the 2 inch barrel but they are great for shooting.

I have a pair right no on the little .38 version until I can get the original ones cleaned up.

Deaf

Trent
February 11, 2013, 11:02 PM
Ooh! Those have finger ribbing too. That was another thing I wanted but forgot to mention. (Recoil on those 158's was making the muzzle flip up a LOT more than I'd like, but squeezing the damn thing to death to try to stop it doesn't help my wobble....)

Thank you very much Deaf!!!!

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