Affordable rifles that take AR15 magazines?


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breakingcontact
February 3, 2013, 12:50 AM
Looking for AR15 priced or less, nothing exotic/expensive.

I know there is the Keltec SU-16. Is this a quality/reliable rifle?

What else is out there?

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breakingcontact
February 3, 2013, 09:56 AM
That Mossberg is interesting. Didn't know it existed. Thanks.

SaxonPig
February 3, 2013, 09:59 AM
There were a bunch of ARs (I assume this is what you mean by "rifles that take AR15 magazines") priced around $800 or so... two months ago. Unfortunately, if you waited until NOW to shop for one, they will all be $2,000+.

soloban
February 3, 2013, 10:03 AM
Go to YouTube and look up "nutnfancy su 16" he's done about 3 or 4 reviews on the SU 16. He seems to be a fan. Good luck finding one at the moment though.

calapooia
February 3, 2013, 11:36 AM
I bought a mossberg predator a few days ago. $569.00 out the door.It came with a 3x9x40 scopewith no name on it. I removed that and put a nikon buckmaster I had on it.

Shot it yesterday using factory winchester 62 gr sp, federal 55 gr fmj, and wolf 62 gr fmj. The trigger is adjustible but came at about 3 lbs so I left it alone. It shot 1 inch 3 shot groups with the winchester andwolf 62 grain. Federal ran 1.35 inches.

ITs stiff woking the bolt but I am sure that will smooth out with use. IT worked fine with bushmaster and brownells magazines.

breakingcontact
February 3, 2013, 01:07 PM
There were a bunch of ARs (I assume this is what you mean by "rifles that take AR15 magazines") priced around $800 or so... two months ago. Unfortunately, if you waited until NOW to shop for one, they will all be $2,000+.

Not the case.

Looking for an extra rifle that can use mags I already have without the current price of the AR15.

breakingcontact
February 3, 2013, 01:09 PM
$569 for the kind of accuracy and it can us AR mags? That sounds awesome.

I watch nutnfancy and know he's a big fan of the keltec rifle. I may consider it just wanted to know what other options were out there.

tech30528
February 3, 2013, 02:46 PM
Or you could just get a Savage or Remy and get a bottom metal conversion. CDI Precision makes some nice stuff, don't know if they ar AR style for the little ones or not. Their 30cal stuff is AICS mag. But it's worth calling them to find out just for their ring tone. Tried to talk them in to doing one for the MN about a year ago but they weren't interested. Luckily Promag did it. Woohoo!

breakingcontact
February 3, 2013, 05:45 PM
Wow. Id like to check out that Mossberg MVP Patrol.

mr.trooper
February 3, 2013, 06:27 PM
I think the prices on those Remington pumps were around $600 before the hysteria... no idea what price they command now.

breakingcontact
February 3, 2013, 11:58 PM
I see the Mossberg MVP Patrol was just introduced.

Any word on when it will be available and who has them in stock?

Geno
February 20, 2013, 01:08 PM
I have one of the Mossberg MVPs with the 20" barrel. I bought it for firing the factory-loaded 5.56s to plink at steel targets to 200 or 300 yards. Inasmuch as I only ever have fired it at 25 yards indoors, I can't speak to accuracy. It doesn't impress me that at 25 yards, all 10 projectiles went through the same hole. Seriously, not hard. I will be trying it at the farm one of these days soon.

LIKES:
1) The trigger is crisp and that surprised me for the price. I have it set as low as it can be set.

2) The balance is as good as I can imagine a carbine being. It just "fits", sitting, prone, standing, sitting, kneeling. I have yet to get into an uncomfortable position. If you have ever followed any of my posts, I have a problem with "fits". Well, not me personally, not that I'll admit, but getting a rifle that fits me. Saved by the explanation; I almost outed myself.

3) Weight is great. It is heavy enough to be stable, and light enough that even the little 5.56 lets you know, you pulled the trigger on a centerfire.

4) Overall length and length of pull. Mine seems to be a bit short in length of pull, and overall length of mine is 39.5 inches. It may be a "youth" model. I haven't seen that indicated anywhere in writing though in the paperwork. I like the somewhat shorter length of pull, because my 18-year-old daughter is all of about 5'3".

5) Reliability has been flawless. Everything functions as it is supposed to. The bolt is tight, trigger crisp, magazines locks-in, and ejects flawlessly. It has a last-round fired feature. I mean, when the mag runs dry, the bolt cannot be closed until the magazine follower is out of the way (lowered manually, reloaded, or magazine removed.

6) The fit and finish are not just flawless, they are shocking quality! I can't believe that I paid $505.00 for this rifle! Having rifled 40 rounds in a single range visit, there was more copper build-up in the bore. I'm impressed. The safety is in a nice position, and it too is positive in function...crisp. The bolt can be manipulated with the safety engaged. For me, that is a huge plus factor.

DISLIKES:
I dislike the two pieces factory bases. Too, they Weaver. I prefer M1913 bases, one piece. I cannot interchange my other scopes to this rifle. That is a significant disadvantage. It means a dedicated scope, and that now adds considerably more money that borrowing from rifle A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, or Z for an hour of plinking after a 1 or 2 round zero.

2. It appears to me, and I have to investigate this future, that perhaps my bases are not drilled-and-taped perfectly in line. Regardless, it has not affected accuracy or zeroing ability. It may just be appearance, but in actuality properly aligned.

3) The after-market AR-15 magazines, such as MagPul do not seat easily. I have to insert the MagPuls with considerably more force than the Mossberg factory provided magazine.

4) I dislike that the internals to the magazine well are plastic. I never have liked plastic. It lacks ruggedness. Hopefully it doesn't break. Regardless, as I perceive it to be a weakness, I will order that piece in advance as a stand-by replacement for what I assume to be the inevitable catastrophic failure of that well piece.

Geno

nipprdog
February 20, 2013, 09:17 PM
I dislike that the internals to the magazine well are plastic. I never have liked plastic. It lacks ruggedness. Hopefully it doesn't break.

But you like PMags? :confused:

I bought an MVP when they first came out, but the bolt was stiff, and unfixable. Got rid of it. New owner was happy to get it, and I lost money on it.

I'm still intersted in the concept, especially the new patrol version, and the 18.5" Predator. But I won't buy one unless I can work the action before buying. ;)

JHenry
February 20, 2013, 09:18 PM
masterpiece arms is coming out with the MPAR(i think its called) that looks cool as hell and has a $950 msrp. When it will reach market is anyones guess

nipprdog
February 20, 2013, 09:25 PM
Btw, the 7615P is not currently an affordable option. They are going for twice what I paid for mine.

Geno
February 21, 2013, 10:10 AM
nipprdog:
No, I actually don't much care for the plastic magazines, or aluminum for that matter. I just ordered a 5-round, blued-steel magazine for it. It should arrive today or tomorrow by the big brown truck. 8^)

All:
By chance, I managed to locate a company this morning that manufactures an M1913 base for the MVP. Here is the link in case anyone is interested. They offer the rail in both 0 MOA and 20 MOA off-sets, and the cost is $69.99.

Link to EGW: http://www.egwguns.com/mossberg/hd-mossberg-mvp-scope-rail/

At least this way, I can borrow from any of my other rifles to scope this MVP.

Geno

Inazone
February 21, 2013, 06:26 PM
I own a Kel-Tec SU-16 ("B" model with "C" folding stock) that I bought several brands of AR mags for. I ended up with so many mags that it made sense to buy an actual AR and share between the two. As noted by Nutnfancy and other YouTube reviewers, the Kel-Tec sights rank somewhere between "meh" and "absolute junk," so replacement sights or optics are in order. Otherwise, I have no complaints. Furthermore, the SU-16 has not been picky about ammo at all.

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