25-06 Suggestions


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Bio-Chem
February 3, 2013, 03:21 AM
So ive decided my next bolt gun should be a 25-06. Previously as I've mapped out what i'd like my collection to look like I had liked the idea of my future 25-06 being a Ruger #1. Well turns out on Ruger's website they are no longer producing it in the 25-06 chambering. Oh well, plans change. So now i'm looking for suggestions on a nice bolt gun that comes in this caliber. I would prefer it to have a longer barrel than 22" and I would prefer to pay less than $1000 for the rifle. What say you? Friendly suggestions appreciated and welcomed.

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Eb1
February 3, 2013, 04:03 AM
Winchester Model 70:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/72503/Winchester+Guns+535114225+Model+70+Bolt+25-06+Remington+24%22

H&R here at buds:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/89034/H%26R+Ultra+Hunter+Rifle+.25-06+26%22+Laminate"

Thompson Center Venture:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/73955/Thompson+Center+Arms+5429+Venture+Bolt+25-06+Remington+24%22+B

Mossberg:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411540253/Mossberg+4X4+25-06+24+MC+SCL+LAM


I personally shoot a Marlin XL7 in a Boyd's Laminated Stock. Yes, it is 22", and I do think I'd benefit from a 24" barrel. The one thing I have going for me not to buy another rifle or change rifles is that this gun shoots under MOA, and every deer I have shoot with it goes straight down. I have shot deer at 300 yards that never knew what hit them, and were dead before they hit the ground.

There are many 24" guns in .25-06 that can be had for under $1000. You can probably find a T/C Pro Hunter single shot in .25-06 for a good price also if you want to stay with a single shot action.

Bio-Chem
February 3, 2013, 04:09 AM
yes, there are many guns that meet those criteria. that's why i like hearing about personal experiences. ive found you guys on this site to be full of good info. I appreciate your experience with the Marlin xl7, Im eyeing the Marlin for the 22-250 I have later on down my list of eventual guns. I like to mix it up.

Abel
February 3, 2013, 07:51 AM
I don't know if you can get a Winchester Supergrade for under $1K, but I'm sure that a new M70 Sporter is around $750 and has a 24" tube.

joed
February 3, 2013, 08:27 AM
Great choice in a cartridge. I've owned a Remington 700 VS in .25-06 for 35 years. It will be the last centerfire rifle I part with.

If I were in the market for a new rifle in this cartridge I'd be looking to Winchester or Remington, in that order.

Sav .250
February 3, 2013, 09:00 AM
As the 25-06 is just the cal, the vehicle it comes in is what your looking for.
As not all agree on what "looks" nice,is accurate, etc, a committee pole only muddies the water.
Opinions are biased but at times are helpful. I`d suggest you do your own research on the subjest as it`s your money on the line. Just a different take
on your question.

nastynatesfish
February 3, 2013, 10:12 AM
You can get a savage long range hunter for about 700 they come with a 26" mid barrel. I got a remmy 700 stainless from a shop used for 425 about October last year. I'm gonna rebarrel it this year and go from there.

Steve H
February 3, 2013, 10:16 AM
You may want to try and find a Remmy Sendero (sp?). There should be some used ones out there. Mine is a tack driver.

joed
February 3, 2013, 10:24 AM
The only other advice I'll offer is barrel length. I'm not a fan of 26" barrels but seem to have more then I want in my possession. I prefer 24" as it is a good compromise. I would not get a .25-06 in anything shorter then 24".

I'm willing to give up a little velocity for the 24" barrel.

EchoM70
February 3, 2013, 11:09 AM
I had a Thompson/Center Venture in 25-06, it was a very nice accurate rifle for the price and it had a 24in barrel as well and on something like a 25-06 I feel a 24in barrel is a must. I traded that rifle away and ever since have been looking for another 25-06 to replace it.

I've got it narrowed down to three choices:

Browning X-Bolt Stainless Stalker-

Browning makes some very nice rifles and the X-bolt is no acception, while they're a little pricier than some I believe they're worth every penny. I have a couple Browning rifles and not one has ever let me down.

Winchester M70 Sporter-

This option is kinda complete opposite than the Browning, with it being syn/ss and the Winchester being wood/blue. I've not owned a new production Winchester but I also can't find one bad thing about them.

Savage Custom Build-

I've just recently started kicking this idea around. Find a cheap used long action savage 110, a beater can usually be had for ~$200 and purchase an aftermarket barrel like Shilen,McGowen or PacNor that's another let's say $350. Then a new stock such as a B&C Medalist if your buying new, but if you keep your eye out you can find Mcmillian stocks used for pretty reasonable prices, granted its a lot easier to find a short action one but the long action stocks are out there too. So that's another $300 for the stock. Add a Timney trigger and you just hit the $1000 mark.

I just used examples of what barrel makers, stocks I was thinking about using. The best part about this option is you can have the exact rifle you want and have it customized to your needs.


So that's my thought process on a new 25-06 I'm planning on purchasing, hopefully it will help you out on your decision.

critter
February 3, 2013, 01:18 PM
I have an Argentine Mauser 98 based rifle with a 26" Shilen barrel on it in 25-06. It shoots like a dream!

A rebarrel is a good way to go if you can find some sort of base action you can live with.

c.latrans
February 3, 2013, 01:26 PM
If you are not opposed to used rifles, keep an eye on Gunbroker. I watched a very nice AV in .25-06 go for around 900 not too long ago. Worth a glance....

joed
February 3, 2013, 02:07 PM
Darn, I keep coming back. My reasoning behind picking Winchester is I've owned several used and 2 new. The new ones have been unbelieveable and the used ones were not bad either.

I've had good luck with Remington too. The last Remington, a 700 SPS VS Stainless is OK. But it took a B&C stock and Timney trigger to get it there. But even so, with the stock and trigger it was the same price as the Winchester.

Bio-Chem
February 3, 2013, 02:12 PM
love the thoughts and opinions guys. I knew when i posted this i was looking for opinions, and i'm totally fine with that. Im not expecting anyone to do research for me, but i know many of you have this caliber, and i like to hear about that.

WYcoyote
February 3, 2013, 02:21 PM
The only other advice I'll offer is barrel length. I'm not a fan of 26" barrels but seem to have more then I want in my possession. I prefer 24" as it is a good compromise. I would not get a .25-06 in anything shorter then 24".

I'm willing to give up a little velocity for the 24" barrel.
This whitetail didn't notice the difference between 22" and 24"
Marlin XL7C in 25-06 with 22" barrel. Nice treestand rifle.
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo121/mjkbpics/Elkanddeer20120163_zps63b28764.jpg

mdauben
February 3, 2013, 02:23 PM
I've been thinking about a .25-06 for a while myself, although here in the southeastern US I don't really need one. The two guns I've been considering are the Winchester Model 70 Sporter (http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=001C&mid=535202) or the Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 Sporter (http://www.weatherby.com/product/rifles/vanguard_2/sporter). The are both excellent guns with very good reputations, both have 24 inch barrels and wood stocks (my preference, I think both companies make similar guns w/synthetic stocks) and both are available for less than $1,000.

Bio-Chem
February 3, 2013, 02:35 PM
WYcoyote. I'm sure the animals wouldn't notice the difference between 22" and 24", and that's a nice buck.

Part of the reason im looking for 24" or longer is I already have a a couple 22" barreled rifles so if i'm looking for that i've already got it covered. I'm a guy that likes variety in my gun cabinet, and i'm trying to build some. haha. So i figured, i love the 25-06 and it is a caliber that can take advantage of a longer tube, so why not get a caliber i currently don't have, with a barrel length i don't have as well covered? win win

WYcoyote
February 3, 2013, 05:49 PM
If that's the niche you are filling the 25-06 will work for sure, but it's far from usless in a 22". I find it humorous that a 243 and 270 are commonly offered with the 22" length but the 25-06 takes a beating when configured as such. When a quick handling, easy carrying rifle is needed, it works just fine.

c.latrans
February 3, 2013, 06:07 PM
I have an older Sako that now sports a 23 inch bbl. It was originally around 24, I think Sako measures their bbls in metric....anyway, I nicked the crown and cut it down an inch to straighten things out. It still shoots the same tried and true loads to the same point of impact, and the chrono shows I lost about 40 fps on average. This gun has never been a tack driver, but shoots plenty well for its intended purpose. I also have a .25-06 AI with a 26.5 inch tube which I had built years ago when I was young enough to worship at the alter of velocity. It nips the heals of the mighty .257 Wby. with selected hand loads.

joed
February 3, 2013, 08:31 PM
22" will work but 24" is an excellent compromise, right between 22" and 26".

When I bought mine it wasn't a popular cartridge. You either reloaded or bought from a LGS. It was a spectacular varmint cartridge, the hardest hitting I've ever seen and at unbelieveable distances. With the heavier bullets it was excellent for deer and larger game, again at very long ranges.

My rifle is a Remington 700 VS. I used it mostly for Groundhogs in OH but it's gone bear hunting in Canada and deer hunting in FL. Truelly a dual purpose cartridge.

Five years ago the barrel wore out. I remember the gunsmith telling me I could get the new barrel in almost any chambering I wanted. I don't think I thought about it longer then 1 second, smiled and said ".25-06". After 35 years it is still my favorite.

Cranky CJ
February 3, 2013, 08:57 PM
My 13 yr old with a 25-06 loaded with a round he himself hand loaded. Very nice flat shooting round that is a real hotrod of a 25 caliber.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/310057_472032649522858_620745127_n.jpg

Joe I
February 3, 2013, 11:27 PM
I'll have to second Critter's comments above. I also own an Argentine Mauser action rebarreled to .25-06; mine is a 1909 and wears a Douglas Heavy Sporter-contour 24" barrel. I love that rifle, and it's nice to go to the range and never see a rifle just like mine on the next bench over. It's accurate and you've got to wonder what it's seen in the last 104 years...

Lloyd Smale
February 4, 2013, 08:16 AM
ive got a #1 and love it. Id bet if you looked around youd still find a new one or at least a nice used one. If i was going to go out and buy a bolt gun today it would either be a 700cdl or a ww 70 featherweight

SlowFuse
February 4, 2013, 11:22 AM
I own 2 25-06's so I will offer more input. My first was a Steyr MIII Professional. My most recent purchase was a Wby Vanguard S2. Although the Steyr costs 4x more than the Wby I prefer shooting the Wby. Its very accurate and well built. The stock is the weak point but its not bad enough for me to rush to replace it. It has a 24" barrel and with handloading I have gotten surprising accuracy, it does ok with factory ammo as well. It has become my go to for long range coyote control and a little deer hunting also.

dustin280zx
February 5, 2013, 12:37 PM
My advice from my experience is to get the rifle that feel's most comfortable to you. I own weatherbys, remingtons, and did own a winchester. I've experienced no malfunctions in any, though all are properly maintained. They are all fine rifles mechanically. The reason I sold the winchester is because I liked the ergonomics of the remingtons and weatherbys. They simply fit me better and felt most comfortable. I feel more confident in my ability to make free hand shots with the model 700 mountain rifle in 280 rem over the model 70 featherweight I had in 280 remington. This is purely on the basis that the mountain rifle fit me best and felt most comfortable over the featherweight. I didn't see a need for a rifle I didn't like to use or had to "adjust" to use it so I sold it to my friend who tends to like winchester's over remingtons because he feels winchesters are more comfortable. So it's very subjective and only you know what is best for yourself.

Another bit of advice is do not be afraid of buying a used rifle. I would choose an older mark v, 700 bdl, or m70 that has been used over a newer production rifle anyday. They will retain their value too if you decide to sell it.

Bio-Chem
February 5, 2013, 12:52 PM
Can't say as i've ever sold, or gotten rid of a gun. Don't think i'd ever go down in number of guns.

I'm a fan of used guns. About half my inventory is purchased used. If I find the right one, you can be sure that I will jump on a good used deal.

Zeke/PA
February 5, 2013, 12:59 PM
So ive decided my next bolt gun should be a 25-06. Previously as I've mapped out what i'd like my collection to look like I had liked the idea of my future 25-06 being a Ruger #1. Well turns out on Ruger's website they are no longer producing it in the 25-06 chambering. Oh well, plans change. So now i'm looking for suggestions on a nice bolt gun that comes in this caliber. I would prefer it to have a longer barrel than 22" and I would prefer to pay less than $1000 for the rifle. What say you? Friendly suggestions appreciated and welcomed.
I own a Ruger#1 in .25-'06 that I bought from a neighbor about 10 years ago.
It's the Varminter variation and with reloads it's very accurate.
I made several 1 shot kills on Maryland "beanfield" deer with the rifle.
Three shot groups are 1/2 MOA.
Keep looking, #1 IN .25-'06 will turn up sooner or later.

BP Hunter
February 5, 2013, 02:41 PM
I purchased a Ruger Hawkeye in 25-06 and am very happy with it. It groups less than 1 inch at 100 yards and I am hitting water bottle size targets up to 300 yards consistently. It took out its first coyote at about 70 yards 2 months ago.

palmrose2
February 5, 2013, 05:26 PM
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...6%22+Laminate"

This is exactly what I have in .243Win. I really like the overall shortness of it with no action taking up space. My one complaint is that it simply lifts the spent round instead of ejecting it with authority like the older ones do. I understand they changed them because of some problems with stuck cases. I never had any.

You could spend a significant amount of money on optics and accessories and still not breach the $1,000 mark. More money left to feed it.

68lemans462
February 5, 2013, 06:01 PM
I have an Argentine Mauser 98 based rifle with a 26" Shilen barrel on it in 25-06. It shoots like a dream!

A rebarrel is a good way to go if you can find some sort of base action you can live with.
I also have a 98 mauser 1909 Modelo argentino in 25-06. A real beauty of a gun and a super accurate shooter. The action is second to none, it is smooth as butter! I picked up the rifle with a nice tiger maple stock and absolutely beautiful bluing for $500 a couple months ago on Armslist with no scope. All of my bolt rifles are 98 mausers.

Kachok
February 6, 2013, 05:22 AM
For a 25-06 I would have to have a 24" or better tube. That narrows it down a bit. Browning makes a nice looking 24" barreled rifle, but my A-Bolt is one crazy picky rifle it does not like anything from any factory, it will only group with one handload, and I have tried dang near everything. So I don't think I would put them on my A list.
Remington, I won't touch another new one but would consider a used pre April 2007 model, hard to find though.
TC makes a good looking gun too, but I have never owned or fired one and cannot vouch for them at all.
That leaves the Winchester 70 Featherweight as a shoe in. I have one in 308 and love it, best feel of any rifle I have ever held and it shoots great too, even with cheap factory ammo.

41 Mag
February 6, 2013, 06:58 AM
I can only add to what has been said with my own limited experiences.

My first and only factory 25-06 is of the Rem 700 BDL version sporting the factory 24" barrel. I picked it out of several the LGS had on the shelf back in the mid 80's. From the first rounds until now it has been simply amazing at how accurate it has stayed through the years shooting a variety of bullets, and weights, from most any manufacturer. If I could offer any one suggestion it would be to start off using RL-22 as your powder, I highly doubt you will be disappointed.

That said mine has changed stocks simply due tot he factory wood began to warp over time and I ran out of elevation in my scope to adjust for it. I considered simly going with the Remington wood again, but found a Fajen laminate for a good price and haven't looked back. I shot it for around 20yrs and passed it over to my daughter. She had already more or less taken it over anyway. She along with her oldest son have taken several very nice deer with it over the years. Here it is pictured with the oldest grandson and his first buck taken on the day after his 9th birthday,
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/PB280152.jpg

I had it out early last fall to check the zero on it and we had the target set at 250yds. We had been doing some load work ups on another rifle and had just finished cleaning this one. I fired one fouler and two for group with a stiff breeze. Due to it being zeroed for 200yds I didn't feel the need to mess with the scope one bit,
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f285/41nag/Shooting/P4220201.jpg
I know that groups are not considered much in most cases unless they contain umteen shots. With this rifle however I have no need to waste barrel life or components to shoot 5 or more shots for group anymore. I know the loads it likes, and has shot so well for a LONG time, and the multi shot groups have been identical to this one time and time again if only having more holes. If it spreads them out, it simply means it is time for a cleaning, then it's right back to business as usual.

To be honest, I would suggest you might do as I did for my AI version. I picked up a donor action, then a stock, and barrel, and other items a piece at a time until I had exactly what I wanted. Then I had it all put together into a total package which up till now is still amazing me with the accuracy I get out of it with even the lowly bulk Rem bullets. It will easily throw the 120gr Rem CL's into 1" groups at 300yds, usually better if I do my part, with decent conditions. Depending on just how you go about it and what your exact wants are you might could stay at your listed number or possibly just a touch over, but you would have exactly what you wanted when your done in the exact configuration you chose.

Good luck, either way it's hard to be a good shooting 25-06 any way you slice it.

bowag
April 29, 2013, 10:10 PM
Mine was on a Mauser 98, inside a nickel at 250 yrds. 87 gr HP and a case full of 4831 left several very small pieces of a land turtle at 250 yrds. Iliked the round very much. The rifle was stolen from truck. Miss it.

Geno
April 29, 2013, 10:25 PM
I had a Weatherby Vanguard VGX in .25-06. That was back in the day they still shipped with factory targets. The three-shot target formed a tiny little three leaf clover. It shot about the same with handloads. I sold it when I enrolled in doctoral school. So, there you go, proof-positive, just cuz I got me a PhD, doesn't mean I too very smart. After all, I sold one of my most accurate ever rifles. Man I wish I had that rifle back. :banghead: Without question, if I do replace it, it will be either an M70 Ultimate Shadow or a Weatherby Vanguard 2 with synthetic stock.

Geno

Kachok
April 30, 2013, 03:13 AM
If it fits you the Winchester 70 Featherweight is an easy choice.

Paul7
April 30, 2013, 01:43 PM
How about the Tikka T3 in .25-06?

http://www.tikka.fi/t3models.php?hunter

nathan
April 30, 2013, 01:53 PM
Its the perfect allaround caliber. It is the best for deer and antelope. Now i ve shot a raccoon at 15 yrds away using 100 gr Nosler Ballisctic Tip. It blew the other half of the body and all the entrails. It was like a mini grenade.

Geno
April 30, 2013, 02:02 PM
nathan:

Thanks for rubbing it in. :D I kick myself for selling my "quarter bore". :o Anyone who have never fired a .25-06 Rem is missing out. So much power, so little recoil. :banghead:

Geno

sixgunner455
April 30, 2013, 02:04 PM
Friend of mine has one of those Tikkas.

He likes it a lot. Won't shut up about it, either. :D

sage5907
April 30, 2013, 03:55 PM
I've owned several 25-06 rifles and the best choice for a barrel is a slim 24 inch barrel something like a featherweight Model 70 Winchester pre 64 contour. My current rifle has a Winchester Model 70 featherweight contour with a 24 inch length. If I were looking for a new rifle I would buy the new Model 70 Winchester featherweight and if the only choice is a 22 inch barrel I would accept the shorter barrel. The recoil on a 25-06 is mild and a rifle with recoil pad and scope that weighs 8 pounds is a joy to shoot.

dvdcrr
April 30, 2013, 11:05 PM
Kimber

Lloyd Smale
May 1, 2013, 04:50 PM
Ive got a #1 and a sps rem. Niether are made anymore though. If i was looking for another id look seriously at the model 70s and a cdl remington. A super grade winchester would be a real keeper if you can find one and its within your buget.

T.R.
May 1, 2013, 05:44 PM
Ruger 77 with heavy weight varmint barrel is super accurate with low recoil. It's a tack driver, too.

TR

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/rushmoreman/sdricksbuck25-06.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/rushmoreman/media/sdricksbuck25-06.jpg.html)

Peter M. Eick
May 2, 2013, 05:24 PM
http://eickpm.com/picts/2506s.jpg

Find a Ruger #1. They are great in 25/06 and easy to shoot. My plan is to rebarrel mine up to at least a 26 or 28" barrel someday. Why not get it as least as long as my 25/06 Sendero.

j2crows
May 2, 2013, 05:58 PM
I bought my first .25-06 after a motorcycle accident left me in bad shape for the upcoming deer season, (1980). I was shooting a 7mm Mag at the time and I knew that wasn't going to cut it. Boy, was the .25 a surprise. I still have and it isn't going anywhere. Right now I'm about a month away from getting my new .25. 721 Rem action, Douglas barrel, thumbhole stock piller bedded and Timney trigger from the gunsmith. Make a good choice because you'll probably end having it a loooong time! Good Luck.

Jcinnb
May 2, 2013, 06:24 PM
Mine is a K98 action, even with a few waffenamps surviving, and I love it. Has an awesome 24" inch barrel.

Before I got the Mauser, I looked long and hard, held a bunch of rifles, and did way too much research. I was trying to stay less than $1K. In order were:
Winchester Model 70
Savage 111 and several more
Browning A bolt
Remington 700
Tikka

I wanted to really like the Tikka, but , well I don't know.

Good Luck.

Jcinnb

PlaneJain
May 2, 2013, 06:55 PM
If I had a fire and had time to save just one gun, it would be my Sako in 25.06.
http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/Planejain/100_3757a_zpsf77bb9eb.jpg

nathan
May 2, 2013, 07:29 PM
Back in the 1990s i lived in West Texas. The venerated calibers by most were the .270 and 3006 which of course stems from the old timer's love of the calibers. I really wanted to have one but a friend of mine convinced me on the .2506. And i never regretted it.

Maybe someday i need a 7 RM just to have one in the magnum line.

Bio-Chem
May 2, 2013, 07:56 PM
Gentleman, your help and suggestions have all been greatly appreciated, and i've thoroughly enjoyed reading your thoughts, experiences and suggestions.

Had I been able to find a nice used Ruger #1 i'd have probably gone that way. As it was I got a great deal on a Weatherby Vanguard S2 and have it topped with a Nikon Prostaff in a 4X12 with the BDC reticle. Right now it loves the 110 grain accubonds, and the 100 grain Barnes TSX's shooting both in MOA in factory ammunition. Once I get the barrel broken in with factory stuff i'll start to find it's pet load. A prospect i'm greatly interested in working at. I think i'll probably try and develop a 100 grain load from there and see how good the handloads are.

If anyone has some favorite 100 grain handloads they'd care to share i'm more than happy to hear experiences. I expect to start with IMR 4831 and maybe some reloader 22 to see what it likes. :)

again, thank you all guys. feel free to post favorite pet loads. I love to learn from others experiences.

Bio-Chem
May 2, 2013, 08:00 PM
By the way I love the Weatherby. Action, trigger, and barrel are all excellent. The stock is a little cheap which should be expected considering the entry cost of the rifle. Has anyone who owns a weatherby vanguard S2 gone to an aftermarket stock? What have your experiences been?

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