Looking for Load Data on two Precision Delta FMJ bullets


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joecil
February 3, 2013, 06:41 PM
Now as strange as this is I find little information on the 124 gr 9mm FMJ bullet load data. I have some Precision Delta bullets but Lee, Lyman doesn't have any powders listed for a 124 gr FMJ bullet. The powders I have are Unique, Universal, Clays, HP-38, Titegroup and Bullseye. Now I email Precision Delta and they said to use the Winchester site well folks I don't have WST powder and not a chance of getting any time soon. So I'm looking for some load data using the powders I listed as well as the OAL as that is sketchy also on the 9mm.

Now the 45 ACP is a 230 gr which I can find but not sure of the OAL is best to use with the ones I listed.

Thanks for any assistance on this particular brand of bullet.

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bds
February 3, 2013, 06:49 PM
You can safely use 125 gr load data for 124 gr bullets and vice versa as most jacketed bullets will have weight variance of 1 gr.

Most plated/lead/Moly coated bullets can have weight variance of 2-5+ gr depending on the brand and weight. ;)

As to OAL, use the barrel drop test to determine the Max OAL and feed/chamber from the magazine to determine the working OAL for your pistol/barrel/magazine - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=506678

joecil
February 3, 2013, 06:51 PM
Thanks bds I thought that but just wanted to be sure.

bds
February 3, 2013, 07:11 PM
124 FMJ load data from 1999-2005 Winchester load data (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=159609&stc=1&d=1329800605) (Note that formulation for HP-38 changed in 2006 and became same as W231).

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=179034&stc=1&d=1359932998


125 FMJ load data from 2004 Alliant load data (glarp.atk.com/2004/2004Catalogs/2004AlliantPowderSM.pdf)

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=179035&stc=1&d=1359932998


Current Hodgdon load data (http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp)
124 gr FMJ WSF OAL 1.169" Start 4.7 gr (1015 fps) 27,700 PSI - Max 5.3 gr (1115 fps) 32,700 PSI

125 gr SIE FMJ Clays OAL 1.090" Start 3.5 gr (1010 fps) 28,000 CUP - Max 3.7 gr (1056 fps) 32,500 CUP

125 gr SIE FMJ Titegroup OAL 1.090" Start 4.1 gr (1069 fps) 27,300 CUP - Max 4.4 gr (1136 fps) 30,600 CUP

125 gr SIE FMJ HP-38/W231 OAL 1.090" Start 4.4 gr (1009 fps) 24,600 CUP - Max 4.8 gr (1088 fps) 28,800 CUP

125 gr SIE FMJ Universal OAL 1.090" Start 4.3 gr (1031 fps) 26,900 CUP - Max 4.9 gr (1118 fps) 30,600 CUP

joecil
February 3, 2013, 07:54 PM
Thanks again I saved these and will try a few of each to see which has the best accuracy. Much appreciated.

Cheetos
February 3, 2013, 08:10 PM
I load those in 9mm with 4.5gr of Universal at 1.090. Very accurate load out of my XD9!

ConcernedCitizen
February 3, 2013, 08:43 PM
If you're using HP-38, I have some 231 data that might help.

Here's the results from 4.3 grains of 231 behind a PD 124 grain JHP:

Glock 19 (4"):
Max: 1039
Min: 1006
Avg: 1023
ES: 33.0
SD: 12.2

Glock 17 (4.5"):
Max: 1062
Min: 1020
Avg: 1042
ES: 42.0
SD: 13.7

M&P9 Pro (5"):
Max: 1071
Min: 1043
Avg: 1055
ES: 28.0
SD: 8.0

XD-9 Tactical (5"):
Max: 1094
Min: 1061
Avg: 1081
ES: 33.0
SD: 8.0

This load shot well through all of the above firearms, and will be my backup load for competition use if I ever decide to move away from Power Pistol. As you can see, I am a bit below the current Hodgdon minimum, but I'm chasing accuracy, not velocity.

Please bear in mind that I have worked this load up for all of the pistols I have tested it in, and hopefully you will do the same. Your OAL will be very different from mine, considering that I am using the JHP instead of the FMJ. Use the link provided by bds to determine your OAL and you should be fine.

Good luck with your project, and please be sure to post the final results!

joecil
February 3, 2013, 10:03 PM
Thanks guys and have save it to my notes.

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