Code Red Firearms sponsors a "gun buy back" for Florida mayor


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hawk78
February 4, 2013, 12:17 PM
Hey guys, I just created an account to disseminate this information.

Here is a picture from the facebook page, that has since been scrubbed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Medicfrost/Codered.png


Here is a thread containing more information: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1435520_Code_Red_Firearms_sponsors_local_gun_buy_back_for_the_police_dept.html&page=1

I apologize for invading the board for one post, just thought it relevant to current events.
Thank you

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hso
February 4, 2013, 12:23 PM
The page you provide says the owners of stolen guns turned in are notified of the fact.

So is this actually helping gun owners that had their firearms stolen instead of melting everything down regardless?

hawk78
February 4, 2013, 12:40 PM
Is it right to partner with this mayor? This is the same mayor from the photo

http://www.examiner.com/article/miami-mayor-wants-more-gun-control

hawk78
February 4, 2013, 12:45 PM
In another thread that got scrubbed he says that they are all destroyed. I try to pin him down on whether 'notify' means 'returned to owner' and it's never answered.
Keep in mind, this is a 'no questions asked' buy back, where the thieves get a $25 gift card to bring guns in, without repercussion.
I pose the question, How many guns were stolen just to get a $25 gift card?


http://i.imgur.com/jAYhuHb.jpg (http://imgur.com/jAYhuHb)

silicosys4
February 4, 2013, 12:48 PM
Wow, reading through the threads in the other forum, I'm confused as to where the hostility comes from.
It appears to me that it was an "illegal gun" buyback, focused specifically on stolen or illegally held guns.
The guns appear to have been reunited with their owners if they were found to be stolen.
This was done at the shops expense, if I'm reading right. Privately funded.
Aside from the damage the spin doctors can do in the media, I'm having trouble seeing the damage this causes. Perhaps I'm misreading something.

hawk78
February 4, 2013, 12:52 PM
Please post information showing where the guns were returned to any of their rightful owners. I was told by the owner himself that the guns were destroyed.

hawk78
February 4, 2013, 12:55 PM
Miami Mayor Tomás Regalado joined mayors across the country Monday in calling on congress to create tougher gun control laws.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/14/3182274/miami-mayor-joins-gun-control.html


Regalado said he plans to use the number of guns purchased in Miami’s buy-backs this month as a means to urge Congress to pass gun reforms.

mrvco
February 4, 2013, 12:57 PM
I have to imagine that you can get more than $25 "on the street" for a stolen gun... so I doubt that anyone is going to steal a gun that hasn't already been stolen and turn it in for a $25 gift card.

I would be interested to see them do some research on each gun such as who it was stolen from, when and whether the person that it was stolen from would actually want it back. Something tells me that a lot fewer of these guns come from loving, responsible homes than many people seem to think.

JayBird
February 4, 2013, 12:57 PM
Ha. I just posted this in the 'Activism Discussion and Planning'

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=701131

JayBird
February 4, 2013, 01:01 PM
Wow, reading through the threads in the other forum, I'm confused as to where the hostility comes from.
It appears to me that it was an "illegal gun" buyback, focused specifically on stolen or illegally held guns.
The guns appear to have been reunited with their owners if they were found to be stolen.
This was done at the shops expense, if I'm reading right. Privately funded.
Aside from the damage the spin doctors can do in the media, I'm having trouble seeing the damage this causes. Perhaps I'm misreading something.

I think the damage is working with one of Bloomberg's cronies. At least that is enough for me.

Not to mention that 'Gun Buy backs' do nothing to lower crime or violence, and are solely used as mechanisms of propaganda on the left.

silicosys4
February 4, 2013, 01:07 PM
Actually, I beg to differ. There are at least 6 to 7 gunowners who will be reunited with their formerly stolen and missing firearms as a result of a recent gun buyback program that was privately sponsored in the Seattle area last month. This has already stopped future crimes involving those firearms, in that they are no longer stolen property for whoever is holding them.
I have no problem with privately sponsored programs that focus on providing an incentive and amnesty for people to turn in stolen or illegal firearms, provided any stolen firearms are returned to their rightful owners. I would rather see guns that are legal for circulation offered back to the public in an auction or something similar, but as much as it is a shame to see them destroyed, they were bought and paid for voluntarily

If it weren't for the unfortunate comments by the owner detailing his lack of regard for the end destination of the recovered firearms, I would have seen it as a good thing that a "buyback" program were overseen by a pro-gun entity, who could take the opportunity to offer education and information to people with regards to their firearm or firearms in general. With five minutes of instruction and oversight you could do a lot to help someone understand the unwanted gun that they have... its history, its significance, etc... offer them some range time and a good price on a firearms class....
I see "buyback" programs as an opportunity to weed out and tip some people from being uninterested gun owners to interested gun owners. They already own the gun.
I just wish his comments showed a focus on recovering and preserving instead of disregard.

gym
February 4, 2013, 01:24 PM
Well according to the thread on AR15, he could care less about the owners getting their guns back, and has removed all coments from his facebook page. A lot of folks are angry and cancelling orders with them, follow that link in the firs post and you will see.

JayBird
February 4, 2013, 01:35 PM
Actually, I beg to differ. There are at least 6 to 7 gunowners who will be reunited with their formerly stolen and missing firearms as a result of a recent gun buyback program that was privately sponsored in the Seattle area last month. This has already stopped future crimes involving those firearms, in that they are no longer stolen property for whoever is holding them.
I have no problem with privately sponsored programs that focus on providing an incentive and amnesty for people to turn in stolen or illegal firearms, provided any stolen firearms are returned to their rightful owners. I would rather see guns that are legal for circulation offered back to the public in an auction or something similar, but as much as it is a shame to see them destroyed, they were bought and paid for voluntarily

If it weren't for the unfortunate comments by the owner detailing his lack of regard for the end destination of the recovered firearms, I would have seen it as a good thing that a "buyback" program were overseen by a pro-gun entity, who could take the opportunity to offer education and information to people with regards to their firearm or firearms in general. With five minutes of instruction and oversight you could do a lot to help someone understand the unwanted gun that they have... its history, its significance, etc... offer them some range time and a good price on a firearms class....
I see "buyback" programs as an opportunity to weed out and tip some people from being uninterested gun owners to interested gun owners. They already own the gun.
I just wish his comments showed a focus on recovering and preserving instead of disregard.

And all of that could be done without a state sponsored 'gun buyback'

If a gun store wants to educate the uneducated, and teach them about the significance of firearms and ownership, as well as pick up some guns for cheap to resell, they can post a sign in the window "We pay cash for guns"

As far as the statistics on what Gun Buy Backs actually do....see the link.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-buybacks-ineffective-gun-control-that-make-streets-less-safe

Personally, I dont normally go out on a limb to argue against gun buy backs. I think they are useless for the most part. But, I would never support a gun shop that actually worked with Bloomberg's cronies to set one up.

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